Subject: What can I do to make it better for her?
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What can I do to make it better for her?

Hope I have good advises.
My girlfriend and I have been together for 1 year, and we started having sex after 2 months. In the beginning we would have sex whenever we could. A few months later we were to the point that we were doing it everyday, sometimes even two or three times a day. Now, 1 year later she only wants to do it like once every week or two, and when she does she never gives me a blow job anymore. I've talked to her and she says that she just isn't getting anything out of it and its not worth all the time to feel something good for only a few min's. Let me add that back then I would last about 10mins on average, but now after all the foreplay I only last about 2mins in her if that. She has never had an orgasm yet either. She never masturbated before she got with me because she thought it was gross. I talked her into starting that and told her it wasn't a big deal, hoping that she could get herself there but she has yet to. I have tried rubbing her, fingering her, oral sex on her, fucking her and nothing seems to get her to have an orgasm. I want sex to be enjoyable for her as much as it is for me, so my question is what can I do different or new to try to get her to build up to that point? Also what can I do to last longer? Last time we had sex it was last week. We had foreplay for about 30mins before I stuck it in her and I was already on the edge from that. 2mins after I got in her I was done, and she was annoyed because it was so good for her and she said it was starting to build up. Would maybe a toy add something to help get her to that point?
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just my opnion

Hey bro, what follows is tough advice and given I don't really know your whole history together it could be wrong.  But you asked, right?

Orgasms are mental. It starts in the head and is triggered in the head.  If she has never had an Orgasm she's doing it to herself.  She can't relax and lose control enough to let it happen.  If she was going to with you she would have during that early period when you were fucking like rabbits, but now she is already passed the "honeymoon" period of your relationship.  

IMHO your sexlife with her will only get worse.  I would think about other options, as a crappy sex life usually leads to a crappy relationship.  Again, I could be wrong.  

Yes, you should try some vibrators - most girls definitely enjoy them and a few, like the butterfly,  are designed to be on her clit while you are inside her - cool, and chicks really get off well with it.

For your cumming so soon - buy some thick condoms:  they deaden the sensation a lot so might help you out.  And jerk off about 30 minutes before you two screw!  (Secretly).  This ought to buy you some more stamina.
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Reply #1 Johnhk02's post

since you're doing oral on her, do oral until she orgasms... if i read it right and you're saying she has not orgasm'd before, then she's missing out a lot. it doesnt matter sometimes how long you last, as long as you give her an orgasm first, before putting it in.

just from my own experiences.

as this is non-mongering, will move this to Chat section
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Post at 1-5-2011 19:06  Profile P.M. 
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A situation like this soulds like something after being married for sometime !
Do nothing ! ... get another girlfriend ... or go to some WGs and start having some real sex to fortify yourself !!!

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Reply #1 Johnhk02's post

Take her out. Dine her, wine her, set the mood right. Bring her home, have a chat over some more wine. Then tease her and get ready to rock her world
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Originally posted by twiceAweek at 1-5-2011 19:06
A situation like this soulds like something after being married for sometime  

My thoughts exactly, it sounds like you married her but in all seriousness maybe you're a lousy lover.
Just a thought.
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Post at 1-5-2011 23:21  Profile P.M. 
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Considering the message board that you're on, have you thought about getting off a shot or two via a HJ or 141 before spending time with the girlfriend? It might help you last a bit longer than the 2 min that you've currently been at.
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Take her out. Dine her, wine her, set the mood right. Bring her home, have a chat over some more wine. Then tease her and get ready to rock her world. I have done this many time but not good result.i think I am going to change girlfriend.

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wander   2-5-2011 05:46  Karma  +2   May be the right choice
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May be you right I am a lousy lover
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Reply #8 Johnhk02's post

Use a toy.
Or finger her till she comes.
Some girls like it fast
Some girls like it slow

Try and understand which are her buttons even before you dump her.

You need to know and improve before you should move on.
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Bro, at the moment she's got you a bit fucked up.  You are lasting 2 minutes.., yeah, that sucks alright.  But: remember two things:

One, you used to last much longer and screw her many, many times a week.  So your skills and stamina were fine once.  

And two, she has never Orgasmed before!  It has little to do with you - it is in her head.

Now then - you see what this has done to your self-esteem?  After only a short while too.  You have not invested much in this relationship, so move on.  Don't try to change her or fix her.., you can't.  Find someone who is not broken to begin with.
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Reply #11 wander's post

I still think he needs to find her buttons. I suggest trying some role play, like getting dressed up like one of those village people (try places like ladies street) and stripping to Lady Gaga or whatever singer she's into, then screwing her with part of that outfit on. Sounds weird, but girls are into this fantasy shit.  There's also plenty of info on the net about how to lick a girl to orgasm. Read the stuff written by women to get their perspective.
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I would vote on you two have relationship issues but what do we know from limited information

It could be a physical issue as well. a possibility is she has medical issues like low testosterone levels or simply maybe you two are grossly out of shape.
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Wow, she is more uptight than a virgin!

Are you her 1st lover? If not, then you can blame the previous lovers for not properly enlightening her on sex. The one who took her virginity did not take the time to teach how good sex feels even without an orgasm.

Some girls never get to experience orgasm in their entire life, only after marriage/divorce, or after giving birth. So don't blame yourself as the bad habits were put into place before you came into the picture. If you still like her, you will basically have to re-program her mental state/belief system with regards to sex. In a way she thinks like a virgin still.
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This is the truth that I am her first lover and I dont want to lose her I love her so much cause she is very innocent girl. Please guys give me some good advices. Can I get merry with her.and if I merry so what after merried dont have any problem there
Many thanks all of you
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Reply #15 Johnhk02's post

I am sorry as I didnt know you are her 1st lover. As to you, do you have enough sex experience to know when a girl has had an orgasm or not? Also you have to understand there are difference between orgasms from straight intercourse and orgasms from cliterol stimulation.

Innocent girls can be taught (trained?) to become great lovers and become especially loyal to the one who has taught them so.

I had a virgin gf before and she has been raised to 'save the moment' for after marriage. Of course being a typical male, I wanted to sleep with her. At the same time I didn't want to force or guilt her into allowing me to shag her as I wanted her 1st time(s) to be as unforgettable as possible. (If you ask other girls about their 1st time, most of them have an ambivalent feeling about it as it was such a let down).

So I took the time (in total it was about 1 month) to slowly seduce her. The whole idea was to get her used to someone else praising her beauty and naked body, looking for all her 'secret passion' buttons, experiencing body massages (clothed at first, then semi-clothed, finally naked) every time so she can learn to relax and enjoy the moment. making out like in those old b&w movies where no clothes are removed, showering together, daty and fingering. Every action on my part was to make her enjoy the moment and crave the next experience (lesson?) from me. Eventually she experienced an orgasm from fingering and exclaimed her joy in experiencing what she has read in books.

During that 1 month, I never at any time stuck my penis into her as I wanted to wait until she finally said 'I want you fuck me!'  So you can say I waited 1 month before shagging her and let me tell you the girl appreciated me for waiting as I spent the time prepping her for the big moment.

Of course to make sure she wanted it, I would ask a few times to confirm it. Then waited until our next meeting before taking her virginity. Honestly that night we could not complete the act because she still had lingering psychological blockages. She experienced vaginismus - involuntary tightening of pussy that prevented entry by me.

I looked into vaginismus and learned what it was and discussed with her that though she wanted to fuck me, she still had a subconscious mental block that we will work to overcome together.

So on next night it was back to massages, alot of dfk, cuddling, and more foreplay with daty and fingering to some orgasms to relax her enough to try again. This time it was a success and we shagged all night and experienced a mini-orgasm (still an orgasm). Most of all she felt extremely happy that her 1st time was something to remember with happiness.

I think you need to start over with this girl and tell her so that in your (guilty selfish) rush (dont blame her) to shag her, you forgot to properly teach her everything about sex. So re-do the whole seduction thing; dinner, walk on the park/beaches (making out on deserted beach is fun), innocent making out (no sex) to bring the romance back into the picture.

Maybe on the side you should read some of those trashy girls romance novels or romance adult literature as it does give an idea what girls fantasize about with regards to love/sex. If you can bring the romance back into relationship and take your time, you may be able to resolve your problem.

The risk is if you succeed into turning her into a sex vixen, she may be tempted to try other guys . By then if you succeed, marry her right away.

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As mentioned above, a woman's enjoyment of sex is mostly mental & emotional rather than physical. She needs to feel safe with you. Sounds like she is unwilling to let herself go so that she can enjoy herself fully with you. Some suggestions:
1. Set the scent and don't rush it.
2. Massage her with oil, work everywhere but her pussy/ass for 30 mins, she will be itching for you to get there after a while.
3. Massage her pussy and ass with oils very gently until she squirms.
4. Get yourself a vibrator and work her clit, with or without oral form you. Use this until you get her to orgasm, never met a woman who wont get off this way.
5. Slow down your fucking, if you get close pull out (maybe clearing the pipes earlier in the day would help) and delay until you can get her over the edge again.

Work this my friend and she will loosen up and become the one who initiates.

If not, there is always sex141.com to get you what you need!!
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Reply #1 Johnhk02's post

I'm not sure this is the best place to solicit good advice, but here is my 2 cents...

Girls are much more mental & emotional rather than guys, as halfclover stated. Basically, her ability to have an orgasm or to enjoy sex starts long before you get to the bedroom.

Set the mood. If she likes massages, pampering, fancy meals, good conversation, then start with that. Show her that you care for her. Don't rush it. Tell her how beautiful she is and how much you care for her. Get her mind in the mood and then follow with treating her body right. If she is inexperienced, toys and vibrators may frighten her a bit, so you will have to feel that out. Maybe you build to that later. If she feels like she is going to get something good out of the sex and that you care for her, she will be more willing to have sex and even initiate it.

If there are other issues in the relationship, try tending to those as well, e.g. if there are money problems, fixing or trying to fix those helps to put her mind at ease.

Finally, I have to say I completely disagree with barg123. While shooting your load may help you last longer, getting involved with WGs will likely hurt your relationship and make the sex problem with her worse.

Jerking off may help, but I would focus on her first.
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Reply #1 Johnhk02's post

Sounds like the issue is your own premature ejaculation ... no woman will cum in 2 minutes, even after lots of foreplay.

Work on your stamina.  
knocking one out a couple of hours before getting heavy with her is a good start.
how long before you can reload?  build that up too, so you can get back in the game.

And you have to work on your technique too
You MUST know when you are about to cum, and be able to stop.  Practice when wanking, then do the same with her.  Bring yourself to the edge then back off.  

Bad news is a woman takes a LONG time to get aroused (compared to a guy's instant erection), good news is it takes her a LONG time to cool down (compared to a guy's instant limp-dick).  That means if you can find ways to cool yourself down, she's going to be flying high, ready for when you're back on line.  

I'm told that Viagra keeps you hard after cumming.  That would also solve your problem: you can keep on shagging her - for her pleasure - after you've gone over the hill.  Who knows, could turn into a 2Q?  

OR go to counselling - as the bros have pointed out, 90% of sexual problems are mental, usually anxiety related - and you worrying about your performance is probably a vicious circle that's making things worse.  

Deal with it.  

For her sake,
or do it for your own
because you'll likely have the same issues with the next gal that falls in lust with you ...

PS if you have an iphone, check out the ikarmasutra app - it's got about 150 positions in it, might be a way for you to keep interest going and distract you both from your growing history of past disappointments.




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