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I have the same observation.  I usually notice that the female partners of Westerners here are those that the locals would not normally take a second look at.  While the Japanese, Koreans, Chinese who have several escorts by their sides, are usually smoking hot.  

Well, it seems that the taste of asians generally differ from those of their westerner brothers.
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I agree with tonytoro, its basically the reason why we see more Caucasian with Asian girls is because there are lots of Asian girls that don't mind the opposite as long as they have money. Another thi ...

One flaw I see is why there are not more Asian girls with Black guys ? There are plenty of rich Black guys out there. I do see a lot of White girls with Black guys.
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One flaw I see is why there are not more Asian girls with Black guys ? There are plenty of rich Black guys out there. I do see a lot of White girls with Black guys.

you haven't been to the U.S.
Lots of asian girls with black guys. even more with with white guys.
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Reply #43 timewaster's post

I'm in the US, in the bay area/silicon valley to be precise. I don't see many black guys and asian women together here either. I mean I do see one here and there, but rarely. I think there are still many negative racial generalizations ingrained in the minds of asians when it comes to african americans. I've never had an asian female friend who had a black boyfriend, but have had many asian female friends who had white boyfriends before. I am an american born asian as are my female friends.
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you haven't been to the U.S.
Lots of asian girls with black guys. even more with with white guys.

Highly unlikely or a very small sample was used in your observations.

While it's a sterostype, asians typically have a preference for lighter skin tones and baised against darker complexions. Certainly depending on the demographics of the city you're in, there may be differences, but I would say the number of Asian girls with Black guys compared to White guys would be maybe 1/3 at most.
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interesting. there are quite a few black guys with asian girls here in nyc.
not as many as white guys though.
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I have been to NYC many times and I did NOT noticed Asians girls with Black guys. I even had a job assignment there. I am sure there's a few, but not as many as Asian girls with White guys. For Asian girls with White guys, it's very noticeable in some of the university I visited in the USA.  Try visiting NYU and take a look. Try visiting some of the local community colleges around NYC.



Here in the West coast USA, I do see several Filipino girls with Black guys with kids. At first I thought these girls were Hispanic. Then I was pretty sure I heard Tagalog.  I knew it wasn't Spanish because I have taken Spanish in high school.

eidt : grammer error

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I don't know about you guys . . . but there seems to me there are quite a few Asian male/ White Female couples up here man . . . And they range from all kinds . . . The anime weirdo couple . . . the retarded hot married couple (married in their 20's)  . . . and the normal looking Asian dude with a very pretty White Girlfriend (though she might want to work on her boobs) . . . I myself dated a French Canadian girl . . . which I found pretty damn good (broke up due to busy schedule).
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I think physically speaking, asian men average height is comparable to the white women average height. Traditional attraction values, seem to imply male to be taller. In this way, asian men lose out. It bugs me to the bone. I do not like to see many white men with asian women as it makes asian men seem weak and white men stronger. Traditionally speaking, our own race must have sacrificed eons and eons for us to be in the positiong we are in. Then I think, everytime that white cock goes in and out of her pussy she slash the face of her own father.
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everytime that white cock goes in her pussy she slash the face of her own father

geez!  that's a bit extreme.

Let's not forget one more reason why WM/AF is more common than AM/WF:

White guys, particularly the introverts who tend to marry Asian, treat their spouses as equal partners.  It's only natural for Asian husbands to (consciously or not) perpetuate the patriarchy of Chinese mores.
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and why pray, tell, does this topic of "Asian" men always has to refer to East Asian men?
Am sure there are enough examples in the UK or on the East Coast of the US where many Asian men (especially in The Valley) have partners of different races - not necessarily white but Latinas as well.

Westernised and well off corporate working South Asian men (especially) are increasingly seen with other female ethnicities - either as boyfriends or more increasingly as hubbies .

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Hi it is great subject however i would like to mention that i think it is because of the testoron level of white guys are higher than asian guys. I know it is not fair but this is the scientific explanation.Also western girls like couregous guys and i think asian guys are really shy. Also i think white girls pays more attention to be with a guy from the same etnicity compared to asian girls


Also in Asia there are more white guys than white girls.
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interesting nyt article of the trend maybe reversing to some degree

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/0 ... cEqd+xESjgxPlCHWaAw

For Asian-American Couples, a Tie That BindsBy RACHEL L. SWARNS
WHEN she was a philosophy student at Harvard College eight years ago, Liane Young never thought twice about all the interracial couples who flitted across campus, arm and arm, hand in hand. Most of her Asian friends had white boyfriends or girlfriends. In her social circles, it was simply the way of the world.

But today, the majority of Ms. Young’s Asian-American friends on Facebook have Asian-American husbands or wives. And Ms. Young, a Boston-born granddaughter of Chinese immigrants, is married to a Harvard medical student who loves skiing and the Pittsburgh Steelers and just happens to have been born in Fujian Province in China.

Ms. Young said she hadn’t been searching for a boyfriend with an Asian background. They met by chance at a nightclub in Boston, and she is delighted by how completely right it feels. They have taken lessons together in Cantonese (which she speaks) and Mandarin (which he speaks), and they hope to pass along those languages when they have children someday.

“We want Chinese culture to be a part of our lives and our kids’ lives,” said Ms. Young, 29, an assistant professor of psychology at Boston College who married Xin Gao, 27, last year. “It’s another part of our marriage that we’re excited to tackle together.”

Interracial marriage rates are at an all-time high in the United States, with the percentage of couples exchanging vows across the color line more than doubling over the last 30 years. But Asian-Americans are bucking that trend, increasingly choosing their soul mates from among their own expanding community.

From 2008 to 2010, the percentage of Asian-American newlyweds who were born in the United States and who married someone of a different race dipped by nearly 10 percent, according to a recent analysis of census data conducted by the Pew Research Center. Meanwhile, Asians are increasingly marrying other Asians, a separate study shows, with matches between the American-born and foreign-born jumping to 21 percent in 2008, up from 7 percent in 1980.

Asian-Americans still have one of the highest interracial marriage rates in the country, with 28 percent of newlyweds choosing a non-Asian spouse in 2010, according to census data. But a surge in immigration from Asia over the last three decades has greatly increased the number of eligible bachelors and bachelorettes, giving young people many more options among Asian-Americans. It has also inspired a resurgence of interest in language and ancestral traditions among some newlyweds.

In 2010, 10.2 million Asian immigrants were living in the United States, up from 2.2 million in 1980. Today, foreign-born Asians account for about 60 percent of the Asian-American population here, census data shows.

“Immigration creates a ready pool of marriage partners,” said Daniel T. Lichter, a demographer at Cornell University who, along with Zhenchao Qian of Ohio State University, conducted the study on marriages between American-born and foreign-born Asians. “They bring their language, their culture and reinforce that culture here in the United States for the second and third generations.”

Before she met Mr. Gao, Ms. Young had dated only white men, with the exception of a biracial boyfriend in college. She said she probably wouldn’t be planning to teach her children Cantonese and Mandarin if her husband had not been fluent in Mandarin. “It would be really hard,” said Ms. Young, who is most comfortable speaking in English.

Ed Lin, 36, a marketing director in Los Angeles who was married in October, said that his wife, Lily Lin, had given him a deeper understanding of many Chinese traditions. Mrs. Lin, 32, who was born in Taiwan and grew up in New Orleans, has taught him the terms in Mandarin for his maternal and paternal grandparents, familiarized him with the red egg celebrations for newborns and elaborated on other cultural customs, like the proper way to exchange red envelopes on Chinese New Year.

“She brings to the table a lot of small nuances that are embedded culturally,” Mr. Lin said of his wife, who has also encouraged him to serve tea to his elders and refer to older people as aunty and uncle.

Of course, race is only one of many factors that can come to bear in the complicated calculus of romance. And marriage trends vary among Asians of different nationalities, according to C. N. Le, a sociologist at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst.

Dr. Le found that in 2010 Japanese-American men and women had the highest rates of intermarriage to whites while Vietnamese-American men and Indian women had the lowest rates.

The term Asian, as defined by the Census Bureau, encompasses a broad group of people who trace their origins to the Far East, Southeast Asia or the Indian subcontinent, including countries like Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, the Philippine Islands and Vietnam. (The Pew Research Center also included Pacific Islanders in its study.)

Wendy Wang, the author of the Pew report, said that demographers have yet to conduct detailed surveys or interviews of newlyweds to help explain the recent dip in interracial marriages among native-born Asians. (Statistics show that the rate of interracial marriage among Asians has been declining since 1980.) But in interviews, several couples said that sharing their lives with someone who had a similar background played a significant role in their decision to marry.

It is a feeling that has come as something of a surprise to some young Asian-American women who had grown so comfortable with interracial dating that they began to assume that they would end up with white husbands. (Intermarriage rates are significantly higher among Asian women than among men. About 36 percent of Asian-American women married someone of another race in 2010, compared with about 17 percent of Asian-American men.)

Chau Le, 33, a Vietnamese-American lawyer who lives in Boston, said that by the time she received her master’s degree at Oxford University in 2004, her parents had given up hope that she would marry a Vietnamese man. It wasn’t that she was turning down Asian-American suitors; those dates simply never led to anything more serious.

Ms. Le said she was a bit wary of Asian-American men who wanted their wives to handle all the cooking, child rearing and household chores. “At some point in time, I guess I thought it was unlikely,” she said. “My dating statistics didn’t look like I would end up marrying an Asian guy.”

But somewhere along the way, Ms. Le began thinking that she needed to meet someone slightly more attuned to her cultural sensibilities. That moment might have occurred on the weekend she brought a white boyfriend home to meet her parents.

Ms. Le is a gregarious, ambitious corporate lawyer, but in her parents’ home, she said, “There’s a switch that you flip.” In their presence, she is demure. She looks down when she speaks, to demonstrate her respect for her mother and father. She pours their tea, slices their fruit and serves their meals, handing them dishes with both hands. Her white boyfriend, she said, was “weirded out” by it all.

“I didn’t like that he thought that was weird,” she said. “That’s my role in the family. As I grew older, I realized a white guy was much less likely to understand that.”

In fall 2010, she became engaged to Neil Vaishnav, an Indian-American lawyer who was born in the United States to immigrant parents, just as she was. They agreed that husbands and wives should be equal partners in the home, and they share a sense of humor that veers toward wackiness. (He encourages her out-of-tune singing and high kicks in karaoke bars.) But they also revere their family traditions of cherishing their elders.

Mr. Vaishnav, 30, knew instinctively that he should not kiss her in front of her parents or address them by their first names. “He has the same amount of respect and deference towards my family that I do,” said Ms. Le, who is planning a September wedding that is to combine Indian and Vietnamese traditions. “I didn’t have to say, ‘Oh, this is how I am in my family.’ ”

Ann Liu, 33, a Taiwanese-American human resources coordinator in San Francisco, had a similar experience. She never imagined that an Asian-American husband was in the cards. Because she had never dated an Asian man before, her friends tried to discourage Stephen Arboleda, a Filipino-American engineer, when he asked whether she was single. “She only dates white guys,” they warned.

But Mr. Arboleda, 33, was undeterred. “I’m going to change that,” he told them.

By then, Ms. Liu was ready for a change. She said she had grown increasingly uncomfortable with dating white men who dated only Asian-American women. “It’s like they have an Asian fetish,” she said. “I felt like I was more like this ‘concept.’ They couldn’t really understand me as a person completely.”

Mr. Arboleda was different. He has a sprawling extended family — and calls his older relatives aunty and uncle — just as she does. And he didn’t blink when she mentioned that she thought that her parents might live with her someday, a tradition among some Asian-American families.

At their October wedding in San Francisco, Ms. Liu changed from a sleek, sleeveless white wedding gown into the red, silk Chinese dress called the qipao. Several of Mr. Arboleda’s older relatives wore the white, Filipino dress shirts known as the barong.

“There was this bond that I had never experienced before in my dating world,” she said. “It instantly worked. And that’s part of the reason I married him.”
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I thought I'd chime in on this after seeing the increasing number of interracial couples for the last ten or so years in China.

There are "only date white guys" chinese girls but they are as others have said, not the typical types locals are interested in (look, size, age, mindset). Without going too deep into psychoanalysis, I find they usually have some inferiority complex or otherwise look down on "lower class" chinese. Many of them are more "masculine" or more controlling and not demure. When I see the results a few years later, it's quite often the chinese girl controlling the white guy.

The few times I see hot, slim, chinese girl with white guy is:

1.) the girl is pushing 30+ and is overly westernized.
2.) the white guy is also hot/rich/super hip/etc. <---This is normal as beautiful people would naturally come together.

On the flip side, I often hear the LB size issue which I find funny (and I would contest ). If this logic were to follow, then the causian male's LB is bigger, then the caucasian females LS should also be bigger. Take a quick look around US porn(even "barely 18/teen" stuff) and check out how long their LS slits, then compare to the ones you find on chinese WG girls.

The comparison makes a strong argument to as why Chinese guys don't need to or want to step out of their "racial barriers".

In the growing number of chinese guy/white girl I find they look ALOT more in love and seem pretty equal and respectful in their relations.

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Well here are my two cents.Besides English teachers and beer gut sexpats, if you see a Western guy in East, South East Asia, its likely that he s on an expat package.Which means nice bonusses on a Euro paid (when Euro had strength), salary, successful man a professional.So he's like a lottery winner.Everybody wants to date a lottery winner right?

Also westerners do not have the Asian dudes standarts.A woman in late 20's, 30's, divorced gal, girl with a dark skin is damaged good for Asian dudes.But for westerner late 20's look like 18 when it comes to Asian ladies, dark skin is more exotic, and dont care if the girl is divorced or not.Also if the girl has good job, nice salary, Asian dudes are intimidated by her.For example Shanghai is full with ladies with nice jobs, decent English, almost 30, hot as hell (for a westerner) but none of the Asian guys pay attention to her.So she goes for the gweilos which makes it easier for us to date.And they form WM-AW couples.

One other thing is Asian culture being too patriarchal.Guys pay little attention to womens need, and do not act very caring.But in western world, women are much more demanding so that makes Western guys more romantic, and more caring.Because of the movies, many Asian girls want to be spoiled, want to involve in affairs they had seen in movies.They think it s more possible with a tall, feminist whipped gweilo rather than a macho Asian dude.

If to be honest i must add the looks.Around HK local friends, girls dig tall dudes like an obsession.Tall is hot in HK.Just check some profiles in Cupid site.Nearly %25of the girls comment that they want "tall" guy.Also if you have blonde hair and blue eyes, you will be compared to David Beckham in some countries and it will be very easy for you to find a girl.I read about average Joe's banging minor Indonesian Celebrities.And i know it from myself.I date girls way out of my leage in Asia.There is no chance for me to date that georgeous chicks in my country.But its very possible in Asia.Being a Westerner gives you instant rockstar status, which makes dating easy.

So to summerise things, Asian dude in a suit is a regular guy in Asia, but a Westerner in a suit is probably a big fish, successful expat which can change a girls life.(not the truth, the perception) Asian guys are more selective about age, social status, skin color.Westerners don't mind.Asian guys more conservative and macho because they did not deal with the feminist stream.But westerners deal with the feminists and during the process they are softened which makes them more romantic and compassionate.Which the girls like i guess.And the definition of global beauty is something like "tall with colored eyes bla bla bla" and westerners seem to fit that better.

For this reasons, its more easier for a western man to find an Asian girl rather than a Asian guy finding a Westerner woman.

I hate everything about racism, so i m really sorry if i offend anybody.Just my two cents.
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These sociological factors you all cite may well be very true.  But I'm really surprised that no one has mentioned demographics.  I would argue that -- at least in the case of Hong Kong -- the basic demographics explain a lot.  

According to the 2011 Census, there are 55,236 whites among the 7,071,576 Hong Kong residents.  Of these 55,236 whites, 67.4 percent are from Britain, America, or Australia.  From these three countries, there are 1.54 men age 20 or over for every woman of similar age.  Accordingly, there are simply more white men available to pair up with Asian women than there are white women available to pair up with Asian men.  Of course, since many white women are actually paired up with white men, this relative disparity in availability is even greater.

On the flip side, there are 3,124,541 women age 20 and above from Asian countries in Hong Kong, versus 2,609,466 men of similar age from Asian countries -- an excess of over half a million Asian women!  Included among this excess of half a million are a net surplus of 254,443 women from mainland China/Macau/Taiwan, 134,475 from Indonesia, and 118,511 from the Philippines.  To my surprise, there are actually fewer women of this age born in Hong Kong than men.  

We white men are not dating Asian women to "make Asian men seem weak."  That's just silly!  We're simply trying to even up a horrible demographic imbalance...   

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