Originally posted by b-man at 5/27/13 10:09 AM
I spend ages on 20 and STILL don't know how to get to 30 and I've probably done over a dozen reports. I thought I passed it the other day but no. I don't take photos, I don't generally go for the expensive girl either and do a bit more obseque girls. Also many bros are not as flamboyant in their reports and if they are generally get penalised for it.
You actually have 9 reports. Which is good, but not "over a dozen" like you said. But I think I remember you posting short reports in other people's threads as well?
Photos do earn more +k, but it's not necessary. Don't feel that you'll receive more +k because of them. It's subjective to the person giving the k. Remember that you can give +k to other reports as well. HG reports don't receive more +k either, nor do obscure girls. The +k are generally in the quality of the report and not because the member found some expensive or one of a kind girl.
Originally posted by b-man at 5/27/13 08:30 PM
The time and effort to write vs return is low for most punters I think.
This is the wrong attitude to have [sad face]. You (or anyone for that matter) shouldn't be writing reports with the expectation that you're going to receive a reward. This is a community sharing forum. The enjoyment is in the sharing, not the reward. As I've said before, the reward (e.g., higher RA) is a nice bonus, but it shouldn't be your goal. Other than that sort of attitude being wrong, the far majority of reports (90% are RA20 and lower) are already available. Perhaps it's because you don't have access to something that you want it more. I'm not kidding when I say that the difference between RA20 and RA30 is very small, and between RA30 and RA40 is even smaller. But I guess you'll never believe me until you get there yourself.
For what it's worth, sometimes I've spent up to an hour writing a single report. I may not necessarily be sitting and typing for that long. Often I'll switch tabs in Firefox and surf the net, or get up and do something else for a bit and return. Writing reports isn't a job. No one demands that you do it. It's altruistic. If that's not how you feel then I'm sorry for that because I've read your reports and they've been quite enjoyable and I think contribute a lot.
I can't force you to change your attitude, but a few last things. I don't believe that "most punters" think that the "return is low" like you say. I've been punting since 1998 (wow, 15 years now) and I've been on various punting message boards and forums even longer than that (originally on Usenet newsgroups in the mid 1990s). It's been an altruistic system for as long as I've known. I write and share reports because in itself that's my enjoyment. It would be unfortunate if anyone (and I've seen some) goes through life only doing something because they expect a reward for it.
Originally posted by b-man at 5/28/13 12:04 AM
If people feel that reading through mountains of guidelines, forum ratings, procedures, threads is the only options to get information then the forum is it's own worst enemy.
You're totally exaggerating here. Unless English isn't your first language or if you're a slower reader (nothing wrong with that), then reading the 141 English Forum Guide should take no more than five minutes. Yes, there are a lot of sub-links, but a person would generally click on and read those that are relevant to them. For example, if you've been on other forums before then you probably don't need to read the Forum Etiquette thread. Or if you have a good knowledge of sexually transmitted diseases then you could probably skip the STD/STI thread. The point is that the guides answer 95% of newbie questions and that you should only need to read what's relevant to you.
Originally posted by b-man at 5/28/13 12:16 AM
Yeap, good point but as I said the bar is set so high I haven't been bothered to post so it's a two way street.
Again, please don't presume to speak for all forum participants here or anywhere else. And second, the bar isn't set too high at all. At this point it's obvious that it's your own attitude that's an issue. Us people here on the forum have engaged you in positive feedback and communication. We've politely explained the system to you and answered your questions. We've also asked for your feedback on how to make things better. In return however you've just been all about ME, ME, ME. You want this and you want that. You feel that you deserve greater rewards for what you've put in. It's your expectations that are wrong. You present the image that once you get your RA30 that you'll stop reporting and just lurk because you've hit your goal.
What do you do on other message board forums? Do you only post there because you expect a reward for it?
Originally posted by b-man at 5/28/13 12:04 AM
Its pretty obvious you don't need my comments as you have all figured it out.
Have fun....
You're not the first and not the only person who has brought up RA questions. The answer will always be the same. Members here share because of altruism and not for the expectation of reward. Your attitude is such that, "Hey, you guys should do things MY way, because if not then I'm taking my ball and leaving!" I don't know if you don't understand or that you don't want to understand.
Anyways, it's unfortunate that you've decided to leave. More likely you're going to stay and just lurk. I search through the post history of the person before making judgment and replying. I remember names and I look at their reports. I hope that you do understand what sharing, community and altruism are and that you return to participate. Your reports have been positive and I enjoyed them. I also understand that this forum isn't for everyone and I hope that you find a place that can give you what you're looking for.
One last note about RA. I'm RA40 after 4 years and I don't even live in Hong Kong. I do return from time to time, but I'm a prime example of what quality reports from Hong Kong and around the world along with positive contribution to the forum can do. And I'm not even the only one. There are a number of us who aren't in Hong Kong. You have an advantage that I don't, so cut your whining, grow up and stop acting like a baby.
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