Subject: Papasan get paid!
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Post at 30-3-2010 23:58  Profile P.M. 
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Papasan get paid!

I just make many searches for how much papasan make for WG work and did not find hits to answer this question.  Anyone know?  I wonder how much money WG of each category (price 350, 800, 1000, 1500) make for each customer.

How hard is life of WG in HK?
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Reply #1 ebonyhand's post

Why do you want to know?  You thinking of becoming one?
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Post at 31-3-2010 05:14  Profile P.M. 
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Ha, no. I am curiose.  You know, WG of different countries can have very different lifes.  Some say legal WG live much better.   Wonder if true in HK compared to where WG illegal.
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I just assume they fax over resumes & go on interviews like any job. Yes sir, I am a Certified Pimp for over 13 yrs, i well versed in recruitment, training & the launching of all luxurious but afforable WG to the common people.  Also S&M toy training is in my repertoire. I have over 10,000 sales in the last year with 98.8% satisfaction rate of all clients.  If you offer a pension with good dental benefits, I believe I am your man to grow your organization 3 folds within a year.
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I think the going rate is what it's been for all kinds of pimps all throughout history: 50%.
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Post at 31-3-2010 10:57  Profile P.M. 
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I wonder why the girls would go back to the Papasan's. Can't they go out and get a room and just do it themselves and cut out the middle man? They would make more money and have more free time.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by speedracer at 31-3-2010 10:57
I wonder why the girls would go back to the Papasan's. Can't they go out and get a room and just do it themselves and cut out the middle man? They would make more money and have more free time.

so in your post you answered your own question as to why they don't just go out and get a room and run the operations themselves. surely you can't be the only one to have thought about this possibility. now the pertinent question is to ask yourself why on gods green earth they do go back and give their papa's the cut, when you make it sound so easy to do otherwise?
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Post at 31-3-2010 11:46  Profile P.M. 
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The usual answer is that theirs is an illegal enterprise, and so the pimp is the only way they can get protection from cheaters, thieves, violent customers, and so on. The big argument in favor of legal prostitution is that if it's legal, then prostitutes can depend on the police for protection, and no longer need exploitative pimps. That is one reason I only patronize legal walkups, not HGs.

And there are other proposed reasons too, and some arguments that pimps are endemic to prostitution even if it's legal -- for example, the idea that any woman who is fucked up enough to become a prostitute needs a controlling figure in her life, and so on.

It all goes back to the time when women were property (well, still the case in some places), and a prostitution transaction was one man renting property from another man.
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If you want to be an agent, you need to join the TRIAD first; to protect your merchandise, then you need to hire some gang members in China to recruit the girls. in another word, unless you know connections, I don't think it is as easy as you think to be an agent. And everyone gets a cut from all the WGs.
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Post at 31-3-2010 14:09  Profile P.M. 
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in the SF Bay Area, traditionally each transaction is $40 to $60 to the house, the rest to the girl.  So that would be in the 30% to 40% range.

[ Last edited by  JeSun at 31-3-2010 14:11 ]
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Reply #1 ebonyhand's post

From what I was told by those HGs, the most they can get is 50% exclude tips. But I always wonder whether the highest the quality of the gals, the higher percent they can share or not.

[ Last edited by  testtest123 at 31-3-2010 19:45 ]
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by testlogin at 31-3-2010 11:46
The usual answer is that theirs is an illegal enterprise, and so the pimp is the only way they can get protection from cheaters, thieves, violent customers, and so on. The big argument in favor of leg ...

Yeah, well said, bro! There again, there are some variables such as who pays what for the hotel room, protection money and so on and so forth.
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Originally posted by sirtiger at 31-3-2010 05:15
I just assume they fax over resumes & go on interviews like any job. Yes sir, I am a Certified Pimp for over 13 yrs, i well versed in recruitment, training & the launching of all luxurious but ...

What happen with rest 1.2% of toys?
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Anyone think it stupid to have law that oks for prostitute but not more than 1 prostitute?  What is that point?  Now most walkup same as brothel, except the main hall shared with rest of residents in the building instead of private hallway for separaterooms.  You know what I mean?
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by speedracer at 31-3-2010 10:57
I wonder why the girls would go back to the Papasan's. Can't they go out and get a room and just do it themselves and cut out the middle man? They would make more money and have more free time.

You also forget that the pimp plays a role as an administrator, or a secretary if you'd like. Instead of getting nonrhythmic visits from random guys, the girls could expect regular time intervals, and the pimp will take care of returning customers etc. Organizing takes time, and the papasan takes care of some kinda regularity and safety.

And to ebonyhand:
The rule of one girl per appartment brings triads/organization to the darkness, but the girls and the actual "brothels" to the light.
You don't risk your life and assets by walking in to an obvious triad run brothel (like for instance in amsterdam?), and have the protection of the police. Legalization and removal of obvious organisation removes important aspects like drugs, violence etc.

[ Last edited by  Taro! at 1-4-2010 15:15 ]




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QUOTE:
Originally posted by testlogin at 31-3-2010 11:46
That is one reason I only patronize legal walkups, not HGs.

I respect your decision, made on principle; don't get me wrong.

But I would be interested if anyone had an educated guess as to what
percentage of walkups, who are in theory independent businesswomen,
actually handle all their own affairs without a cut going to anyone other
than the landlord.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by Taro! at 1-4-2010 15:10


You also forget that the pimp plays a role as an administrator, or a secretary if you'd like. Instead of getting nonrhythmic visits from random guys, the girls could expect regular time intervals, a ...

But is this less organization?  I see many walkup with more than 1 room together, sometime 8-10 room together.  Champagne Ct girls really not have an organizer behind all them?  I feel they do not work individually.

Just organization less formal - like I meant by hallway outside instead of inside.
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Reply #17 ebonyhand's post



QUOTE:
I feel they do not work individually

Some do, some don't... best not discussed on here though
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