Subject: Could you offer money to a civilian to have sex with her ?
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Post at 29-4-2010 10:35  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 conqueror77's post

Do you mean compensation dating or something?
I guess it works if you don't know the girl and don't intend to

Will be strange for her (and you) if you did eventually build a relationship where you once treated her as a WG
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Reply #1 conqueror77's post

this is a bit of an old thread ... but just musing here ...

I did have a girl write me once ... said she was new to HK and finding it difficult to get by financially, and could I help her in return for her helping me ... of course it could have been a pro trying to act the part but there was something about the exchange that made it sound genuine.  

She was asking more than the market, so I just told her to go out and get a job with some constructive suggestions.  She was quite grateful actually.  

But it was kind of an interesting thought-experiment at the time ...




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Reply #42 DArtagnan's post

Did you tell her what 'market' was and how you knew that?

I would think it's rare for a girl to bring this topic up, but then the whole notion of "sugar daddy" has gone so mainstream now that maybe it's not that unusual anymore for a girl to take the lead.




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Originally posted by TheButler at 29-4-2010 11:37
Did you tell her what 'market' was and how you knew that?  ...

not in those terms, but yes I did outline my expectations using language that was consistent with her own vocabulary.

All I can say is "yes" - in my experience certainly - it is very unusual.  

Which observation probably has more to do with just how easy it is for a girl to get someone to give her money or anything else she needs  (a job, marriage, willing servant), that they rarely reach the point where they actually proposition a stranger.  But the underlying principle of exchange is as primeval as sex itself ...




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Pretty informative thread here. Just wanna add my 2 cents...
I immediately thought of the whole "compensated dating" thing when I saw the topic.  Remember seeing news on how this compensated dating thing is growing and getting out of control in HK.  However, in my opinion -- why waste time and energy on pampering some poor hk girl instead of contributing to the tuition-fund or whatever-fund of our large DB of hotel gals?
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Originally posted by mrpringles at 29-4-2010 17:21
compensated dating ...

discussion of compensated dating is not permitted on this forum - it's a morally unresolved area which provokes strong emotional reactions.  This forum is very clear where it stands on the question of sex for money, so for the sake of the website we have to be careful to avoid any discussion that would risk attracting politically motivated attention.  

So answering your question "why ..?" would cross the line and be as unacceptable as discussion of the question "how ..?" would be.  

In that context, HGs and Walkups rule the roost!




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Post at 30-4-2010 10:10  Profile P.M. 
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D'Artagnan,

If a girl would offer you sex in exchange for money, she is a pro for sure. That is kinda bold on her part and she's probably asked others before. However, if you see a girl you like and proposition her then it's a different story. I've done this before (in China) and have been fairly successful. I would always ask them a lot of personal questions and most of these girls make very little money so if you can help them with the rent, they would be most grateful. Also, I find that most girls in China are rather receptive and would not feel offended by the questions if you put it nicely.
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Originally posted by geoduck at 30-4-2010 10:10
D'Artagnan,

If a girl would offer you sex in exchange for money, she is a pro for sure. That is kinda bold on her part and she's probably asked others before. However, if you see a girl you like and  ...

Not necessarily.  Certainly if she offered it to more than one guy . . .  but I for one have bought into the whole notion of the 'sugar daddy' thing being different than outright hooking, within reason.  A girl with 10 sugardaddies is different from a girl with one is different from a craigslist hooker taking on all comers.  I guess I'm a "gray area" kind of believer.

Now was D'Art's girl a dyed-in-the-wool hooker?  I doubt it, and I have met a fair number of girls in the last two decades who were brand new to the biz and just getting their feet wet.  Who introduced them?  Usually one of their girlfriends.  So you can imagine for every girlfriend that took the plunge there was at least one other that did not, but is wandering around out there well educated on P4P by the stories of her working girl friends.  For a girl like that it would not be hard to proposition a grossly overweight likeness of Michelangelo's David, even though she'd never actually worked in the biz before.




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Originally posted by geoduck at 30-4-2010 10:10
If a girl would offer you sex in exchange for money, she is a pro for sure  ...

That's silly - unless you're being pedantic with the words.  If a girl is looking for a sugar-daddy, does that put her in the same group with professional hookers?  

There's a huge distinction between a girl who's made a proactive decision to make a living from sex work with all comers, and a girl who is taking a first tentative step in the belief that she just needs one (or very few) clients to help her get by financially in the short term.  Is that also pro?  Technically speaking of course it is: she's doing sex work, and any offer of sex for money is (technically) a commercial offer of services for sale.  

But I think we all know that doesn't make her a "pro" ... not until she starts to take more clients, and decides to forego other sources of income in order to concentrate on sex work.




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QUOTE:
Originally posted by DArtagnan at 30-4-2010 12:15


But I think we all know that doesn't make her a "pro" ... not until she starts to take more clients, and decides to forego other sources of income in order to concentrate on sex work....

AND starts to be fairly indiscriminate about who and how many she screws.  A girl who's looking for a relationship that provides for her (LT=marriage, ST=sugar daddy) is just old fashioned.  A girl who bangs whomever walks through the door is hooking.  And BOTH girls are delightful!




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I think to do the scenario like moneytalks or publicinvasion is kind of exiting but in HK very difficult because there many girl that has a good situation and are not after the money.
You have to really find the target that is needing money.
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Reply #50 TheButler's post

"old fashioned"

definitely going to remember that one for future use ... it's gonna come in useful ...

especially in Hong Kong!!!





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QUOTE:
Originally posted by DArtagnan at 29-4-2010 10:58
this is a bit of an old thread ... but just musing here ...

I did have a girl write me once ... said she was new to HK and finding it difficult to get by financially, and could I help her in return  ...

If she is not a full time WG, I think it is fair for her to ask for a bit more than the market price. Of course, it is hard to tell whether she was telling you the truth.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by DArtagnan at 30-4-2010 12:15


That's silly - unless you're being pedantic with the words.  If a girl is looking for a sugar-daddy, does that put her in the same group with professional hookers?  

There's a huge distinction betw ...

Yeah, the distinction is in number of clients and whether she has some control over who the clients are. Of course, it is a continuum with WG on one spectrum and mistress at the other. Some girls can be something in between or moving back and forth from both ends to make things complicated...
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Yeah, the distinction is in number of clients and whether she has some control over who the clients are. Of course, it is a continuum with WG on one spectrum and mistress at the other. Some girls ca ...

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Reply #55 TheButler's post

... you missed Wife off the end.  That's the full continuum ...




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