Subject: Renegotiating Fee with a Regular WG
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Originally posted by tbyrd_21 at 24-2-2010 22:35
Wow, you must have had some experience with this!  Or, you can just read both in and between the lines very well!  

I have had some excellent relationships w Mongolian Gals. They are amongst my favourites. Since you ask...

Right now I have one who lives in an apartment in Beijing. When I am coming to HK I email her with the dates. She comes down to HK to meet me when she can. I come to HK 8 - 10 times a year. Over the last 18 months she has been able to join me in HK 4 - 5 times. First time I saw her, it cost me HK$1,500.00 for 2 hours, 2 pops and massage. I know that wasn't especially cheap but I was really attracted to her because she looked Japanese. In fact he looked like she could have been the sister of my Fave Japanese Porn Star. That made me quite vulnerable.

A little over a year ago, we agreed to the deal where she comes down to meet me in HK. The price varies based on her situation and the time frame etc. Whether or not she can stay on after I leave town and make some extra cash etc. For example, late last year she was with me for 10 nights and I enjoyed 16 pops. I worked during the day, she went sight seeing or whatever??? she had some girl friends who came down with her plus her best friend lives in HK at the moment. We spent our time together in the evenings only. Cost me HK$5,000 cash plus I estimate another HK$2,000 for various food, drinks etc (specifically for her) over the 10 days. I arrived at this deal, by simply saying to her, "OK, I'm here for ... days, I want to spend time with you, but I have other commitments while I am here, so how much money do I need to give you to make you happy and leave me enough cash to do whatever else I need to do? She replied "It's up to you" so I said "HK$4,000 and you can sleep at my place so you dont need to stay at an apartment". She said "HK$5,000" and I said "fine".

In other words, I did "negotiate the price" but I was not asking her to discount the existing deal. As has been said, Your deal of RMB1,200 for 18 hours and multiple pops is excellent. I simply asked her to consider how much she wanted for a longer term package. New deal = new rate.

Hope this info helps you Bro, I wish you lots of fun but... DON'T fall in love with her. Unless you really want to of course.
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Post at 25-2-2010 13:17  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #21 TonyToro's post

In this sort of situation I think your approach is as near to text-book as you can get:-
  1. outline the deal, but then put the responsibility for coming up with the deal on her shoulders - standard technique - whoever goes first gets less
  2. accept her deal - smart move when negotiating in a situation where service depends on how she feels

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Reply #22 DArtagnan's post

Thx Bro. You brake down the process well. Adding to your comments, by nature of the fact I am "buying a bigger QTY", it stands to reason I would get a discount so the math takes care of itself. Hopefully I get  discount without looking like I am screwing her (in a manner of speaking LOL)

So I did the Math and inc the food and drinks component, my average cost was exactly HK$720 / session so I was happy. She had to be happy because she named the price.

Of course it helps that she really turns me on.

We have scheduled a week together in April so I am looking forward to getting back to HK for that.

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Post at 25-2-2010 17:46  Profile P.M. 
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Originally posted by TonyToro at 25-2-2010 14:17

We have scheduled a week together in April so I am looking forward to getting back to HK for that.

Good stuff, bro! Seems like you have a good deal going on, as well. I think my girl has a Japanese look to her. It would be funny if we're sharing the same girl! I know she's been to HK (and Singapore). I didn't ask her why, but I can only assume (probably correctly) that she would be going to those two places for one reason! I think she goes in the summer when she isn't in school, however. But, I'm not sure since only met her a month ago.

Anyway, I guess if I find out that she's going to HK for a weekend in April, then we may have managed to get the same great girl!

Do you manage to do other WG or HG when you are in HK or do you just spend time with your Mongolian girl?
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Reply #24 tbyrd_21's post

well, mine is currently in Mongolia with her family. She wrote me email today asking me to hurry up and come to HK. She is 24 which is scary (yours is also right?). Her initials are O.S. She is coming down to HK to meet me in late April for 7 - 10 days or as long as I am in town. She hasn't been to Beijing this year yet.

She has a best friend who lives in HK called Zulaa. She is missing a pair of emerald ear rings that she left in my room last December, i have them though so will return them in April. She has an iPhone but she dropped it and the back cover is cracked. Her favourite drink is Baileys on ice. She can speak English, Mongolian, Korean, a little Japanese and a little Putonghua. She looks very much like Maria Ozawa.

So... Do we share the same gal? How small would the world be if that was the case Bro! Amazing!

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Originally posted by tbyrd_21 at 25-2-2010 17:46
Do you manage to do other WG or HG when you are in HK or do you just spend time with your Mongolian girl?

I also have a Korean Gal I see regularly while in HK. Also a Taiwanese. Then when no one is town I try my luck in bars or on 141.

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Reply #25 TonyToro's post

According to that description, we don't share the same girl. Mine just got back to Beijing this week. She had gone home to UB for the New Year and was only there about 10 days.

That's sweet yours looks like Maria Ozawa! I can't compare mine to anyone famous I can think of. The only comparison is to one of my good friends back home, which is a little weird (I've never had a romantic relationship with this friend).

I had met a few bitchy Mongolian girls prior to this one, so I wasn't feeling good about Mongolians, but this girl is fantastic! There's something about that quasi-Russian accent that is a turn-on.   She is always smiling and her laugh is infectious. . . . But, yes, you are absolutely correct that great care is needed not to fall in love!
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Post at 25-2-2010 21:52  Profile P.M. 
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I know what you mean about the accent... it IS a turn on! You may have heard, it has been a terrible winterin UB this year. Really bad. Your gal could use some warming up no doubt. Enjoy her Bro!
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by TonyToro at 25-2-2010 14:17
...  so I was happy. She had to be happy because she named the price.  
Of course it helps that she really turns me on.  ...

Try as I might, I can't come up with a better set of criteria for recognising a win / win arrangement!!!  Why be greedy when you're having it all already?  The only opinions that matter here are yours and hers.  

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Let's do the math.  You pay 1200 RMB for 3 pops (the max you stated in your post).  So that comes out to be 400 RMBs a pop.  With a regular WG, you can negotiate LT for 500-600 RMB..that's probably 2 pops.  It comes out to be 250-300 RMB per pop.  Seems like you are paying a bit more on a per pop basis.  But if you were to have >4 pops in that 18 hr period, then you get your money's worth.  However, one can't really put a price on familiarity.  Since you got something already going on with her, it'd probably worth you bone to keep that.
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If it's too expensive, I'd choose another girl who has a lower price.
Still another way is get another job, or start selling something to earn more money.  I figure after 10 pops per month sooner or later your going to want to see another face.
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isn't 1200RMB kind of high for China?  Although I guess if it's unlimited time, then it's worth the price.
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Reply #31 kching's post

china is pretty vast, there are price variances throughout the country.  I believe northern cities like shanghi can command higher prices
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Post at 26-4-2010 11:50  Profile P.M. 
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dont do it bro, same situation to my hto broad slapped me wheni tried to re -neg 20%. i miss that pussy
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based on my experience providers usually charge a high fee for the first visit, and as you become a regular they would be more then willing to work out a small discount with you. this way they would have a steady source of income every month and since your a regular they wouldn't have to post ads and risk seeing potential creepy dangerous new clients. this is a win win situation for both of you.
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Just got to ask yourself one question. Are you okay losing her over a 200RMB? I would personally not offer any more gifts. Dinner is dinner, that's the price you pay for a girl's company, it is expected for a long sessions (18hrs I would expect breakfast, lunch and dinner).

If you are going to try to negotiate I would just be honest. Tell her exactly what you posted here "asking her if she would accept maybe 800 - 1000 RMB just so I can sustain the situation longer financially."  I would reword it a little bit, but the general concept is there.
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