Subject: How much $ do WGs make a year?
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Post at 13-1-2010 00:36  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #40 JckJr's post

If a girl makes a net profit of 1000 HK for every guy she fucks (I have no idea how much a top WG makes in a Macau brothel), she would have to service 24 guys a day, every day of the mth to make 730,000. If she makes 400 per punt as CanuckGuy says, that means she would have to do 60 guys a day. How much time does a guy get with a girl in Macau anyway?




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Reply #41 Marsupial's post

Lisboa girls take in $800 per punt maybe more with tips, but they have to pay for their rooms. For the money, you get an hour with the girl.  I did the math too and it looks tight (you have to deduct the red letter days too) but it is not impossible if punters shoot n scoot.
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Originally posted by JckJr at 13-1-2010 06:46
Lisboa girls take in $800 per punt maybe more with tips, but they have to pay for their rooms. For the money, you get an hour with the girl.  I did the math too and it looks tight (you have to deduct  ...

do u recon papa san get better rates for the rooms for them? i dont think they pay market price
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Reply #41 Marsupial's post

All markets are skewed ... the 80/20 principle shows 60% of the money will have come from 5% of her customers.  

... she would have made her money by "sinking the ship" of a couple of her richer customers, and milking them with promises of exclusivity / special service / etc. etc.  Either that or by specialising in being the aspirational booty for high-rollers celebrating a lucky night.




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Originally posted by DArtagnan at 13-1-2010 11:11
All markets are skewed ... the 80/20 principle shows 60% of the money will have come from 5% of her customers.  
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Doesn't the 80/20 rule mean that 80% of her business comes from 20% of her customers?  I think you just postulated the 60/5 rule.




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Post at 13-1-2010 12:42  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #45 TheButler's post

apply the 80/20 two times, that's what you get.  

80% from 20%, then look at the 20% that has 80% ... 80% of that (= 64% of the total) comes from 20% of the 20% (= 4% of the total).  I used round numbers for convenience ...

Don't just take my word for it, find some real data and check it out for yourself (e.g. Forbes 500 richest / Market share statistics in large markets / etc).  It's very very common.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

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Reply #46 DArtagnan's post

I think you're right that the only way a woman could get to monthly numbers like that is from obscenely high tips from one or a few rich customers.  I had some WG friends in the US who would occasionally mention getting really large tips (or expensive presents).  Invariably, in the next sentence after telling me about the large tip, they would say what stupid saps these guys were!  

So don't necessarily think that a WG is going to think you're a great guy by leaving a big tip... more likely they'll just think you're a sucker!  In fact, the guy who seemed to have the best rapport with the WGs was a guy who was a self-proclaimed hard-to-please cheapskate.  Evidently, a lot of WGs appreciated his no-nonsense attitude...

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Post at 15-1-2010 04:43  Profile P.M. 
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had a talk with a WG, she makes around 5-7k a day.... so do that math

then minus expense and stuff, its still pretty gd money and i m pretty sure its tax free
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Reply #46 DArtagnan's post

Understood my chubby chum, that the principle behind the 80/20 rule is one of geometric change, not arithmetic (the curvesteepens).  I was making a joke about saying that 5% of a girl's biz comes from 60 percent of her clients was the "80/20" rule, but I get that my sense of humor is lost on most folks . . . or maybe just lost

I suppose one could say the the 5% is the "second order derivative of the 80/20 rule" but that's not entirely accurate, or funny, either!




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Originally posted by Caligynephiliac at 13-1-2010 13:21
In fact, the guy who seemed to have the best rapport with the WGs was a guy who was a self-proclaimed hard-to-please cheapskate.  
Evidently, a lot of WGs appreciated his no-nonsense attitude...

Why do I have trouble believing that.   I think WGs, all else being equal, LOVE big tippers.  
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Reply #47 Caligynephiliac's post

Heh if people stopped giving SQ such big tips she would not have retired so quickly and would still be working, which is bad for her but for the rest of us.




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Originally posted by pisser at 15-1-2010 13:41


Why do I have trouble believing that.   I think WGs, all else being equal, LOVE big tippers.  

Oh yes, they LOVE big tippers.  But they don't necessarily respect them.  If you want to check out my statement, go to San Jose, Costa Rica and look up Vegas Bob.  Everyone there will know him.  Tell him MG says "hi"...

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Originally posted by Caligynephiliac at 16-1-2010 02:28



Oh yes, they LOVE big tippers.  But they don't necessarily respect them.  

I'd speculate that this is mostly true with those girls who don't respect 'Johns' period.




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Post at 16-1-2010 14:14  Profile P.M. 
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Some WG are here to start the traid with no pay for a set amount of hours, then after that what ever they make its in the pocket. I've also been told that some WG (the good one's) will work on anything from 30/40 punters a day.
So I've been told, really have no idea as to how much they really earn.
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Reply #25 twiceAweek's post

thank you twiceaweek!! glad someone is standing up for me and hearing my side of the story before bashing.
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Reply #52 Caligynephiliac's post

Would you rather be loved by a WG or respected?    
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i dun really know about WGs but walk ups get half of what u pay them... or so.. a walkup told me ...
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Post at 20-1-2010 16:42  Profile P.M. 
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not all WG's make that much per day. 5K to 7K ballpark is very high. Let's say it's 800 per "john" that would equal 8-9 johns per day at 1 hour each. That means every hour they would have to get one john, which is highly doubtful as the majority of them walk back and forth most of that time. i think they would be lucky to get 3-4 clients per day if they are super gorgeous, but 9-10 is up there. they mgiht get that in a lucky day but the other days are pretty much 3-4 I am guessing. And you have to add the hotel costs and the food as well, net they mgiht make $2000HKD/day. At the Fu cheng bing guan that I frequent, one of the girls told me that business has been so off lately that in the past 4 days she was only able to make $2500. And some of the girls dont even get one client per day. They have so much competition everywhere it is hard.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by TheButler at 15-1-2010 05:14
... I was making a joke about saying that 5% of a girl's biz comes from 60 percent of her clients was the "80/20" rule, but I get that my sense of humor is lost on most folks  ...

you're right, it was COMPLETELY lost ... probably because that's not what you said!!




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