Hi I am new the the scene. I made a post in the FAQ section for newbies, and I want to know whether the hotels are discreet and secure. Do they take you IDs and blackmail people and stuff? May be I am paranoid, but I assume the papasans are triads, aren't they?

You're paranoid.  Just relax and...

Have fun, CGP

So they don't take any of your IDs and stuff?  Does any one know which hotel they send you to in TST?  I am not familiar with TST.  Are the Japanese girls real?  I have heard some bait and swap problems...  Has any bro catch anything from the gals before or do they check them?

If you are really that concerned, just go to a 141 girl and get a massage + HJ. Totally legal, easy, and no STDs. But seriously, from everything I've read here (I've not tried HGs yet) you don't have anything to worry about. You'll be fine. As Caligynephilian says, just relax and have fun.

Man! You're paranoid as hell, aren't you? I'll try to help...

"I want to know whether the hotels are discreet and secure."
~ Yes, they are.

"Do they take you IDs and blackmail people and stuff?"
~ No IDs need to be shown. Just get the room number from the papasan/mamasan (over the phone once you arrive at the place), and walk to the lifts and go up... No need to talk to any hotel staff!

"May be I am paranoid, but I assume the papasans are triads, aren't they?"
~ No idea, but I know that they just want to do business...

"Are the Japanese girls real?"
~ No, they are not.

"I have heard some bait and swap problems..."
~ Yes, happens. But also don't forget that the girls in the DB are photoshopped, so you might not recognise them even if they are the real one!

"Has any bro catch anything from the gals before or do they check them?"
~ Hotel girls are not checked by "them", but they are usually only here for a week or two on tourist visas and then disappear. They may reappear for further stints. Most 141 walk-up girls are HK residents from the Mainland and the smart ones get themselves checked, but we wouldn't know about this.

Bro, I promise you... after a few goes in HK, you'll look back on your questions and wonder what all your fuss was about!!

hg is the safest thing to do in hk from what i read, if anything you just worry about is do the girl that comes up suits your tastes

Depends what you mean by safe... From a legal view, 141 walk-ups are the safest since they're legit.

you've been watching too many movies like Ocean Flame.
They are very safe.
They are very safe. The only thing to worry about is bait and switch.
You can always leave if you don't like the girl.

Frankly you'd be taking a MUCH bigger risk in London or New York, where you're compromised just by THINKING about paying for sex ... I even read a couple of FMLs where police in US stopped a guy with his mum, and another who went to pick up his teenage daughter, getting done for solicitation ...

In HK prostitution is legal

Which means even the triads understand supply and demand issues - if they mess the clients, the clients go elsewhere.