Subject: Sex 141 on TVB?
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Sex 141 on TVB?

A couple of days ago while I was in Yat lok in Tai Po eating dinner , a news item came on , which I couldn't hear and generally ignored , until they showed the opening page of sex141 ie the are you over 18 page , it was noisy in the restaurant and the volume was turned wayy down...

They then moved to the girlDB with blurred images of all the WGs on the pages scrolling through page after page....

So did anybody see this little report and if so what was it about?

They showed older women who seemed to be sick of their buildings being filled with mongers at all hours of the day, and showed some blurred face images of men going into what looked like a TST WG building

but I didn't get the gist of it.....


Was it anything important ? or was it just a slow TVB news day and this was used as a filler ?




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Reply #1 Kennichi's post

Interesting ! ... if any bro saw this or knows of this, please report in - thanks
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Reply #2 twiceAweek's post

The news piece was referring to the possible regulation on porn/sex on the Internet by the government. In particular after the Edison case which was the first of it's kind in Hong Kong.
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Reply #3 asia-play's post

Thank you ... and welcome to the forum !  

were there any further developments on this issue ?
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Reply #4 twiceAweek's post

Thanks for your welcome.

From what I recall, there will be some studies on how to regulate. But would be pretty hard since Hong Kong has freedom of speech.
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Reply #5 asia-play's post

well ... lets hope they don't come up with any weird ideas !
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Reply #6 twiceAweek's post

Hmmm....as long as you don't spread any bank rumours then should be okay for now!!!
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Here is what I read in the Chinese section for those who can understand chinese....

Bro please check any English source for similar news:

規管淫褻資訊 網商負重責

(星島)10月4日 星期六 06:30
(綜合報道)

(星島日報    報道)近年發生連串藝人裸照及手機激烈性愛場面傳送風波後,規管網上色情成為社會爭論焦點。政府公布《淫褻及不雅物品條例》檢討諮詢文件,為修訂條例作多種建議,包括增加互聯網服務供應商規管責任,可對屢次發布淫褻不雅資訊的用戶終止服務,以及推出過濾網頁服務。當局又建議重新釐定不雅及淫褻定義,效法電影三級制做法及增設兩重審裁架構。

  商務及經濟發展局    昨日就《淫褻及不雅物品條例》檢討展開首輪諮詢,就七大範疇作建議,但當局強調諮詢不設立場,未有傾向。

  網上淫褻不雅資訊氾濫,今次檢討一大重點是針對網上媒體,提多項新機制規管,大部分與互聯網服務供應商(ISP)有關,包括建議收緊供應商與用戶合約條款,禁止用戶發布淫褻不雅物品,屢犯者即被終止寬頻服務。

  核實瀏覽者年滿18歲

  供應商又須設網站標籤制度,列出不適合兒童及青少年瀏覽網頁,為客戶提供網頁過濾服務,並規定供應商提供過濾軟件。網站展示不雅資訊前,除列明警告字眼,更要增設身分核實機制;例如要求網民輸入信用卡資料,以核實是否年滿十八歲,才可瀏覽有關網頁。

  商務及經濟發展局副局長蘇錦樑強調,任何網上及討論區發放的資訊內容,會保留現時毋須預先送檢做法,如將來供應商已過濾有關淫褻不雅網頁,青少年會難以接觸。他強調,政府不會要求供應商擔當「網絡警察」,用戶最終自行選擇是否訂購有關過濾服務。

  另外,政府建議重新制定淫褻、不雅定義,效法電影三級制,將第一類定為不受限制物品,第二類加入IIA級只准發布予十五歲以上人士,IIB級只准發布予十八歲以上人士,第三類完全禁止發放。

  不雅新增2A及2B級

  如何釐定IIA及IIB級標準,政府擔心定得太仔細會加深灰色地帶,蘇錦樑重申,「如果定義綁得好死、好清晰,當時間轉變後,定義又要有彈性。」

  另外,政府認為將審裁處現時行政及司法職能分開,建議成立一個全新獨立審裁機構,由二十至三十人組成為物品初步評級,並要公開評級理由。而現行審裁處只需負責覆核評級的司法機關角色,及就法院裁判官轉介的個案評級。

  淫褻物品審裁委員張民炳表示,政府把淫褻物品分為三級的原意是好,但互聯網不同電影,較難於IIA及IIB級劃界綫,相信日後執行會「有更多麻煩」。他又認為,應保留「淫審處」,並增加審裁員數目,令評審更客觀。以往三年出席約八至十次淫審評級的候任立法會    社福界議員張國柱認為,新建議下將第二級細分為二A及二B級是好事,可減少灰色地帶。「有些物品一睇就知級別,一日睇一千件都不成問題,重點反而是邊緣個案的處理,例如中大性色報、大衞像這類。」

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Reply #8 Happppy's post

Here's the english version from SCMP 4th October 2008 >

An independent classification board would be set up under government proposals to improve the regulation of obscene and indecent articles in the wake of the celebrity sex photos scandal.

The proposals, set out in a consultation paper released yesterday, also include a new system to classify articles and the mandatory provision of a filtering service by internet service providers. Board decisions would be subject to appeal to the Indecent Articles Tribunal, which now handles classifications.

The posting and publication of photos of female stars in sex acts with entertainer Edison Chen Koon-hei on the internet and in print media in March prompted calls for tighter controls over dissemination of obscene or indecent materials in various media.

Under the revamped classification system, articles now classified as Class II indecent would be subdivided into material restricted to persons above 15 and 18 respectively.

"We want to maintain the free flow of information and the freedom of speech, yet it is important to put teenagers under protection [from indecent or obscene materials]," the undersecretary for commerce and economic development, Greg So Kam-leung, said in launching the first round of consultation.

One of the options to improve the adjudication system of obscene articles is to set up a two-tier system under which an independent classification board would make interim classifications. The existing Obscene Articles Tribunal would remain as a judicial body to consider appeals against the board's decisions and deal with articles referred to the tribunal by courts.

The new classification board would draw in 20 to 30 lay members from sectors like education, social welfare, media, cultural services and district organisations. Under the existing arrangement, the tribunal, which is a judicial body, has exclusive jurisdiction to determine whether an article is obscene or indecent.

Another option is to improve the tribunal by drawing adjudicators from the list of 570,000 jurors in the city for each tribunal hearing, expanding the panel of adjudicators from the existing 300 to 500 or more.

The number of adjudicators at each hearing could also be raised.

The third option is to abolish the tribunal and authorise a magistrate to classify articles. Civic Party lawmaker Ronny Tong Ka-wah said it was not plausible to abolish the tribunal or to draw adjudicators from the jurors' list as this would lay too heavy a burden on the judiciary system.

"[Classification] is a moral, not legal issue and it is better handled by the public instead of the court," said Mr Tong, a senior counsel. "A better proposal is to expand the tribunal."

Mr So agreed that it would impose a heavy burden on the courts if a single magistrate was responsible for classifying articles as there were 70,000 classification cases a year.

Obscene Articles Tribunal adjudicator Mervyn Cheung Man-ping said it could not meet the demand with only 20 or 30 members in the independent classification board under the two-tier system proposal.

One option to improve the classification system is to divide indecent articles into Class IIA, restricted to those aged above 15, and IIB restricted to those above 18.

Class IIA articles would be required to provide statutory advice and subject to a wrapping requirement; Class IIB articles would be subject to a wrapping requirement and could only be displayed in premises restricted to people above 18.

Under the existing law, Class II articles must not be published or sold to people under 18.

The first round of consultation is scheduled to end on January 31.
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Thanks Happppy and asia-play

doesn't look to different to me (new proposal vs existing) just more red tape !
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by asia-play at 7-10-2008 23:23
The new classification board would draw in 20 to 30 lay members from sectors like education, social welfare, media, cultural services and district organisations. Under the existing arrangement, the tribunal, which is a judicial body, has exclusive jurisdiction to determine whether an article is obscene or indecent.

We need representative from 141 forum, Bro TwiceAweek, your voice is our voice!!!




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Reply #11 hunter's post

haha seconded

From what I read following links in another thread this is unlikely to effect us. 141site got charged in 2003? And since then they switched to a non-HK ISP. The article I read suggested that they wouldn't have jurisdiction to enforce anything.
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Originally posted by bbbjp at 8-10-2008 09:04
haha seconded

From what I read following links in another thread this is unlikely to effect us. 141site got charged in 2003? And since then they switched to a non-HK ISP. The article I read suggested that they wouldn't have jurisdiction to enforce anything.

Damn, and we have been self censoring ourselves all these time with ban on sexy photo etc....




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Reply #13 Happppy's post

No point pushing the boundaries. It was just the opinion of the article writer, who may or may not know what he's talking about .

Found the link. It was on the Wiki for HK Prostitution:

http://zonaeuropa.com/20051005_3.htm
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