Subject: British banker held over double murder of alleged sex workers in Wan Chai
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British banker held over double murder of alleged sex workers in Wan Chai

British banker held over double murder in Wan Chai flat
Saturday, 01 November, 2014
Clifford Lo, Alice Woodhouse and Lana Lam
Bodies of two young women, believed to be sex workers, found in Briton's upscale Wan Chai apartment – and they may have died days apart
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-ko ... ble-wan-chai-murder

A British banker was being questioned by murder squad detectives last night after the naked bodies of two young women were discovered in his 31st-floor Wan Chai apartment.

The 29-year-old - who works for a top-tier global bank - was arrested early yesterday after he called police. Officers arrived at his Johnston Road flat to discover the body of one young woman in the living room. Her throat had been slashed. Hours later the body of the second woman was found stuffed in a suitcase on the apartment's balcony.

It is believed that the women were sex workers of Southeast Asian or Asian ethnicity and that they may have been killed days apart.

A police source said the flat at J Residence, a high-end block at 60 Johnston Road favoured by junior expatriate bankers, was "covered in blood''.

The first victim, aged between 25 and 30, was found naked in the living room with knife wounds to her neck and buttocks. "Two cut wounds were found in her neck and her throat was slashed," the source said.

CCTV footage showed the woman and the suspect, who has not been charged, had returned to the flat at around midnight.

About eight hours after the first body was found, the naked corpse of the second woman, thought to be Indonesian and aged 25, was discovered wrapped in a carpet inside a black suitcase on the flat's balcony. "She was nearly decapitated and her hands and legs were bound with ropes," the source said. Her passport was found at the scene.

An initial investigation found that the body in the suitcase had been there for three to four days and had started to decompose.

"We believe the woman had been dead for quite some time," said Wan Siu-hung, Wan Chai assistant district commander for crime.

He said the time gap between the discovery of the bodies was because police had to follow strict procedures to collect the evidence in the living room before searching the balcony.

A small quantity of cocaine was found in the living room. "We are investigating whether [the suspect] was under the influence of illegal drugs at the time of the incident," the source said.

A spokeswoman for the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in London said: "We can confirm that a British national has been arrested in Hong Kong. We are in touch with the local police and stand ready to provide consular assistance."

Security was tight at the 40-storey block last night. One person who has lived at J Residence for about a year said he had noticed an odd smell recently. "There was a stink in the building like a dead animal," he said. "It was a shock because you would never expect something like this to happen in Hong Kong."

He said the building's occupants were mainly expatriates.

The murders are the latest in a series of shocking crimes the city has seen in recent months.

A police source said the scene of the murder in Wan Chai was among the grisliest seen since the so-called "milkshake murder" in 2003, when a high-flying American banker's wife served him a strawberry milkshake full of sedatives before bludgeoning him to death.

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Reply #1 JackTheBat's post

Jesus Christ!!!  Man, this is horrible.  

I read "Indonesian between 25-30" and can't help but think of many of my former wanchai regulars.  

What a monster.  Poor parents... imagine their pain.  

Any names of these girls released yet?

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JackTheBat   3-11-2014 01:21  Acceptance  +1   yes, see below, wander
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Reply #2 wander's post

One of the names has been released in the Chinese media, which are often lazy and unreliable. I will PM you, but please don't take it seriously until confirmed by the western media.
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BBC is reporting that one of the girls died at the scene from knife wounds after police arrived.

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wander   3-11-2014 00:22  Acceptance  +1   Fuck man. Jack the Ripper. Thank god he's in custody
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I can say that there are 2 gents living in Wanchai who are on the ladies unofficial black list.
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Thats just totally fucked up. I dont understand how someone can murder another human.

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austin821   3-11-2014 04:30  Acceptance  +1   Yes absolutely terrible. Thoughts go out to the victims family and friends.
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Reply #2 wander's post

One of the girls was a regular at 109, though not in your circle I think.

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I have all the relevant information. send me a PM.

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SCMP: suspect & one victim ID'd

Victim’s relative sheds light on identities of corpses found in British banker’s flat
Saturday, 01 November, 2014
Clifford Lo, Jennifer Ngo and Niall Fraser
Bodies of two young Indonesian women found in British banker's upscale apartment – and they may have died days apart
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-ko ... ble-wan-chai-murder

A relative of one of the two women found murdered in a British banker’s flat in Wan Chai on Saturday has provided crucial information on the identities of the two victims, a police source said.

Police were able to identify Sumarti Ningsih, 25, as one of the victims with the help of her cousin, who also lives in Hong Kong, the source said.

Ningsih entered Hong Kong from Indonesia on a tourist visa last month. The source said Ningsih had been arrested on suspicion of breaching her conditions of stay in the territory.

The cousin, who works as a domestic helper in Hong Kong, told officers that she knew the second victim. Aged between 25 and 30, the second victim apparently worked as a part-time disc jockey in a pub, the cousin told police, according to the source. Police are still verifying the second victim’s identity, the source said.

A 29 year-old British citizen was arrested early on Saturday in connection with the killing of the two women after he called police to his Wan Chai apartment.

Officers arrived at his 31st-floor apartment in Johnston Road at around 3.45am on Saturday. There, they found the body of the woman whose identity has yet to be verified in his living room. Her throat had been slashed. Hours later, Ningsih’s body was found stuffed in a suitcase on the apartment’s balcony.

It is believed that the women may have been killed days apart.

Sources have identified the suspect as Rurik George Caton Jutting, a Cambridge University graduate who moved to Hong Kong last year. According to his LinkedIn profile and records from the UK Financial Services Register, he worked for Barclays in London, where he later joined Bank of America Merrill Lynch to work in structured equity finance and trading.

While a source said Jutting recently resigned from his job, it was not immediately clear when exactly he left the bank.

The bank previously had an employee of that name, Paul Scanlon, a bank spokesman, said. He declined to comment further.

A police source said the flat at J Residence, a high-end block at 60 Johnston Road favoured by junior expatriate bankers, was "covered in blood’’.

The woman, whose identity has yet to be verified, was found naked in the living room with knife wounds to her neck and buttocks. "Two cut wounds were found in her neck and her throat was slashed," the source said.

CCTV footage showed the woman and the suspect, who has not been charged, had returned to the flat around midnight.

About eight hours after the first body was found, Ningsih’s naked corpse was discovered wrapped in a carpet inside a black suitcase on the flat’s balcony. "She was nearly decapitated and her hands and legs were bound with ropes," the source said. Her passport was found at the scene.

An initial investigation found that the body in the suitcase had been there for three to four days and had started to decompose.

"We believe the woman had been dead for quite some time," said Wan Siu-hung, Wan Chai assistant district commander for crime.

He said the time gap between the bodies’ discovery was because police had to follow strict procedures to collect the evidence in the living room before searching the balcony.

A small quantity of cocaine was found in the living room. "We are investigating whether [the suspect] was under the influence of illegal drugs at the time of the incident," the source said. The suspect was appeared to be dazed when police arrived at this home on Saturday. It is understood that police have not been able to take a statement from him in the night to Sunday.

A spokeswoman for the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in London confirmed that a British national had been arrested in Hong Kong. “We are in touch with the local police and stand ready to provide consular assistance," she said.

One person who has lived at J Residence for about a year said he had noticed an odd smell recently. "There was a stink in the building like a dead animal," he said. "It was a shock because you would never expect something like this to happen in Hong Kong."

He said the building’s occupants were mainly expatriates. The rent for a 500 square foot flat at J Residence ranges from HK$25,000 to HK$30,000.

Police are now examining Jutting’s mobile phone. Photos of one of the two dead women were among the approximately 2,000 photos police found on the suspect’s smartphone, a police source said.

The photos were apparently taken after Ningsih had died, the police source said. “Police are investigating whether there are more victims,” the source said.

Detectives are also contacting pubs and vice establishments in the area to gather evidence and learn more about the background of the two dead women found in the British banker’s flat on Saturday after initial assessments suggested that they were sex workers.
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So sad and shocking.
Was in Makati on Sat night when the police came is, stopped the music, turned on the lights and walked around with a photo of one of the victims trying to get assistance
from the other girls.
Didn't know at the time what is was about.
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Selfie from Sumarti Ningsih in HKC hours before she went missing... The POS banker picked her up in Makati

Bastard

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wander   3-11-2014 22:05  Acceptance  +1   RIP sweet Alice. I knew her. Many of us did. Shocked. Sad.
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Reply #12 Iamthestig's post

Harder and harder to imagine how someone could do this.  I knew Alice.. she was sweet and soft and somewhat complicated.  I have memories of her.  Very very sad.  

I guess the only explanation is that there isnt one -- he went insane:   a mad, dangerous dog, and these girls were in the wrong place at the wrong time.  

Rest in Peace, pretty girls.

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obe   4-11-2014 09:27  Acceptance  +1   Well said bro
Thai-delight   4-11-2014 08:53  Acceptance  +1   I wonder if he will plead insanity
austin821   4-11-2014 04:43  Acceptance  +1   Well said Wander.
Iamthestig   3-11-2014 22:21  Acceptance  +1   Totally agree, what a horrible waste of life, these girls didn't deserve to die at the hands of that psycho.
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Two beautiful pictures of the ladies.

Trust that what the GENTS has posted is correct.
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Reply #13 wander's post

I know you came over a month ago. You must have met her (on your way to the hotel) not long after she arrived in HK, since she had only been there for a month according to newspaper reports.

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Here's an online article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ ... es-say-friends.html

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insanity

I just had that conversation about his plea.  I bet he does.  That's why he called the police himself.  He's going for a"temporary insanity" plea.

I suppose I don't doubt he is fucking insane.  

Regarding alice.  Not her first trip to hk.  Or else she looks astonishingly similar to a Bar 109 regular who was very common there about 2-3 years ago.  I have tried to find a Facebook page for her to see more pics to be certAin.  But I think it's gotta be.  OCH and 109 were her usual spots.

Anyway, sad either way.

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obe   4-11-2014 12:10  Acceptance  +1   I agree that is what this asshole will plea
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Reply #16 wander's post

Looking at the pictures of these two beautiful women I can't understand how anyone would ever want to harm them.
I would be happy to have either of these girls hanging of my arm while walking down a street.

I hope this guy is sentenced to a hard labor camp in mainland China but most likely he will serve most his time in a UK prison.

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Very sad. I want all women to be safe, but I admit (I can't be the only one) that I want working girls to be especially safe. They're often under-represented and looked down upon in society, and have a tough job. At the same time they provide a service that makes people like me feel very happy. I've been in the dumps emotionally before and some intimacy with a cute soft personality has significantly lifted me up at times.

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zonked   4-11-2014 18:39  Acceptance  +1   Makes me cry reading this
wander   4-11-2014 11:36  Acceptance  +8   Indeed.
obe   4-11-2014 10:06  Acceptance  +5   Well said.. and let's not forget they are humans
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RIP girls.  

The poor families will be devastated.
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Reply #16 wander's post

Temporary insanity is a hard sell though, since he killed the girls on two separate occasions days apart.  If he killed one only and called the police soon after, then it would be an easier case to argue.  But to kill one and stuff in a suitcase and days later kill the next victim the same way is premeditated and psychotic. To have 1000s of pics of dead bodies on his phone will not help his cause either. He will probably end up in an institution for the criminally insane at taxpayers expense, like Martin Bryant - the Australian mass murderer from the 1990s. I cannot see him being released.

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