Subject: the passing of a legend - Robin Williams
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the passing of a legend - Robin Williams

Very sad news today. Just highlights that depression strikes rich, poor, famous, not so. What is your favourite movie of his? Mine would be Goodwill Hunting.

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wander   12-8-2014 23:31  Acceptance  +1   Yeah.. sad as hell. Mork, Garp.., his standup stuff is classic. Nice guy to boot. Sad.
zebra   12-8-2014 15:48  Acceptance  +1   Good morning Vietnam
obe   12-8-2014 14:11  Acceptance  +10   Good Will Hunting! One of my favorites of all time. Sad news.
jake.houston   12-8-2014 13:55  Acceptance  +1   The Final Cut.
ggherkin   12-8-2014 13:38  Acceptance  +1   The Fisher King
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mork and mindy … first time i saw him on tv
RIP Robin

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obe   12-8-2014 18:39  Acceptance  +1   I remember watching it as a child. And to think it started on Happy Days!
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i have sympathy to service members who have their limbs blown off
i have sympathy for police and fire fighters who are dead or injured
i have sympathy for poor countries whos people starve to death


i dont have much sympathy, if any, for a rich actor that kills themselves
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Reply #2 twiceAweek's post

A childhood memory were the Mork and Mindy credit when he was on the football field with Mindy.

Obe: A comic genius, but his dramatic performances were mesmerising. The World According to Garp, Dead Poets Society, Good Will Hunting, etc etc etc etc.
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Reply #3 jsmithj88's post

so, you have sympathy for a poor actor that kill themselves ?
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The irony of this comment appearing in this forum is huge.

This is a forum of guys who are urged into sexual action by our body's chemistry.

Robin Williams suffered from depression for his whole life. This was not a choice he made, any more than it is a choice we make to feel the need for sex.

Ironic, to accept one form of chemical influence, while rejecting the other.

Gherk

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i dont have much sympathy, if any, for a rich actor that kills themselves
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Reply #1 Thai-delight's post

An amazing guy to watch live -- such a 1,000 mile-per-hour-improv brain.  Stomach-hurting-laughs.

And then to see him do such great dramatic roles as Dead Poets, Fisher King and Good Will..  really surprised me how damn good he was.

A real shame to go out this way.

RIP funny man.

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Thai-delight   13-8-2014 06:47  Acceptance  +1   I agree
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Reply #3 jsmithj88's post

Dear Smith, a family member of mine, whom I loved dearly, had suffered from severe depression most of his life. I don't want to preach to you, especially in a forum about paid sex, except to say it's worth taking 20 min of your time to read this: http://www.theguardian.com/scien ... on-are-not-selfish.
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Society is slowly coming to recognize mental illness as just that - an illness like any other.  RW was quite public about his fight with depression, and never discounted the fact that his illness might be the end of him one day.

I too remember him from Mork and Mindy - his humour was so original.  And then Good Morning Vietnam.
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Thx zebra for that link. I also have family suffering from depression. It's widespread and it is sad reading about anybody succumbing to this terrible illness.  What makes this so tragic is that his public face and private one are poles apart. People who are ignorant of the disease are quick to judge. It's not like sby chooses to be severely depressed.

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ggherkin   13-8-2014 12:35  Acceptance  +1   Depressed people would give *anything* to not feel depressed.
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Re: jsmithj88's post

Well, smithy , you got beat up with that point of view,  it just goes to show that the world is full of apologetic pussys, we have become a society of weak spineless cowards, and if someone with any backbone speaks his mind and disagrees with the status quo, you are chastised and berated.   That said, I agree with you,  I have zero sympathy for people who kill themselves.  What I do find interesting, is the fact that Williams, as an example, since he is the latest,  was an actor, he had no effect on anyones lives,  he entertained them, 200 years ago he would have been considered a court jester, a fool, but today entertainers are treated as royalty.  ISIS in Iraq is cleanising the Kurdish people and killing their children, cutting off their heads and putting them on stakes.  Where is everyone sympathy for those people.   So, I am with you Smithy  …..

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wander   14-8-2014 10:37  Acceptance  +1   Curious how old you are. Empathy for one situation doesnt mean me dont have it for another. Childish thought.
ggherkin   13-8-2014 14:22  Acceptance  +1   It is because he had an effect on so many people's humanity that he was loved by so many.
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Reply #11 gman970's post

well i only agree with half of the things u said
we decide its more important to honor a rich and talented entertainer who decided to end his misery
the only reason most people even care is because hes famous
sorry, but i dont have much sympathy for that, i just dont

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wander   14-8-2014 10:40  Acceptance  +1   Its called empathy, simply relating to another's pain. We admired his talent and goodness.. not his fame.
ggherkin   13-8-2014 14:23  Acceptance  +1   No, they care because he was so good at what he did, not because he was famous.
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It's difficult for people who have never suffered through depression or seriously contemplated suicide to understand. I'm not going to say you're wrong, because to people who have never experienced it, you seem absolutely right.

In 2011, a recently retired hockey player named Wade Belak committed suicide. A television personality ended up writing an article that, in my opinion, was both insightful and moving. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=375694

At the very least, it resonated with me. It resonated with me because I grew up with what I call, "my dark place". I've never told people about it, and I've been fortunate that over the years I've learned how to get through it. There was a time however, when I was much younger, that I actually made an attempt on my own life. While it wasn't so much suicidal, obviously I was more than toying with the notion.
One of my siblings had a thing for chemistry and we had many chemistry sets at home. Back in those days, chemistry sets for children actually had seriously poisonous items included. I took a few of the hazardous chemicals and mixed myself a concoction of the poisonous materials and drank it. It was more out of curiosity than WANTING to die... but I really didn't care at the time if I didn't. For about 20 seconds, I actually thought I WAS going to die. Everything inside was burning. It was, at the time, the worst pain I'd ever experienced. Finally, my body rejected it and I was able to expel everything.
But ever since that first episode into my dark place, it's returned time and again. I'd see myself holding a gun in my mouth, daring myself to pull the trigger. I've grown up, I've learned to understand my dark place and to work around it. But there are days where the invitation is more compelling than others.

Survival is a natural instinct. When presented with danger, there is a fight or flight impulse. This impulse is a survival instinct. Every living organism has an innate instinct to survive. Your body will FIGHT for air if you're drowning. You'll shiver if you're cold so that your body will warm up from the movement. Your body will sweat if you're too hot so you'll cool down. So it's VERY unnatural when the survival instinct becomes secondary to the one to die. My favorite quote in Mr. Landsberg's ariticle is:  "People kill themselves when the fear of living another moment outweighs the fear of dying at that moment".

We've all had moments of weakness. To give in to having another drink. It could be indulging in another punt. These moments of weakness when we know full well that really, we shouldn't. But we give in to it. Some people will boast that if someone wrongs them, they'll have no problem shooting another person dead. But in reality, we'll never know until that moment happens. Is it IN you to kill another human being? Do you KNOW what you'll do if you encounter a bear / tiger in the wild? Will you be able to fight that fear? Are you spineless if you decide to run? Personally....Chances are, I'd piss my pants and be unable to move. Maybe on most days you'll be able to face ANYTHING when confronting imminent danger. But there might be a moment of weakness.

When someone's contemplating suicide, it's not as simple as being strong, being rational. Think about how frightful when that "fear of living another moment outweighs the fear of dying". How strong that fear MUST be, when it takes over our natural instinct to survive.

The loss of Robin Williams, even if you have no sympathy for the man, is a terrible loss of talent. I've never seen anyone improvise as quickly and as well as he did. I've enjoyed many of his films, but watching him perform live is something else entirely. Brilliant. This talent is now lost to us moving forward. There will be nothing new from this incredibly talented entertainer.

Sorry that this got so long, I got carried away. Not very many people in the trailer park to pour my heart out to. hahaha =)~

~UD

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As much as I have empathy for those depressed enough to kill themselves, or more to the point their family, I find 5 minutes on liveleak is all I need to bring me back to reality. £3.2 billion distributed among premier league clubs last season. How many innocent children's lives would that save ?
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Originally posted by Thai-delight at 12-8-2014 13:00
Very sad news today. Just highlights that depression strikes rich, poor, famous, not so. What is your favourite movie of his? Mine would be Goodwill Hunting.

I probably want to kill myself if I found out my SO gave me STD like AIDS or Herpes.

The first time I saw Robin Williams on Happy Days.

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