at what age do  most people start taking viagra or cialis?

also, how many hours before sex should you take it?

how much should you take for your first time?

V and C are quite different. I have only tried V so can only comment about that. There is more than one reason to take it. If you have erectile disfunction, V can help you get a boner. I am not sure how effective it is, I guess different from Bro to Bro.

I tried it because i heard it can help you have multiple pops in short space of time. I tried about 1/3 of a tablet and was able to have 6 pops during an overnight session. No way could I have done that without V... usually 2 - 3 MAX.

I took it about an hour before hand. No effect until I was in bed with WG... then bingo! Just when I thought "Game over" a little cuddle and BINGO... back again!

Seems like it lasted about 24 hours, maybe more? Only side effect for me was a slight headache next day, not too bad, like a very mild hang over.

Retry Index: 10/10!!!!!!!!

Ciallis is great - lasts longer than V and havent experienced any side-effects. I take a whole pill at a time but you can try half at first, to test it.

Can get it for 315 but generally 400 at pharmacies.

Any age!.  C normally takes around 20-30 minutes.  Half a tab sufficient

What is 1/3 of a tablet ? I believe they sell them at 100g and 50g


What is half of what ? I think they sell them at 10g, 20g and 40g.

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Any suggestion for mail order for generic ?

I saw this website and it has a listing for 3 places. I don't know which one is OK.   http://theeverythingist.net/

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I was watching I think it was Dateline on TV. It talked about some of the fake V's and C's in China. They sent a few to analyze and found stuff that was bad. They mentioned cement. I guess to weight it down and less of the real stuff. Be careful from where you buy it.

I never did 6 pops during an overnight session.  I think I like to try.

edit: changed " I like try." to " I like to try."

[ Last edited by  Weelock at 26-2-2011 10:21 ]

friend of mine came punting with me to HK last December. While in HK they bought some V. Since coming back home they had used it and said it was great. So recently I tried it for the first time. I had a an overnite session arranged so my friend gave me a tab. Because I'd never had it before my friend said take half a tab. Now that you mention it I am not sure what it was, 50g rings a bell but not sure. Tab was maybe 8 - 10mm long? I decided to cut a little less than half and the piece that I swallowed would hv been about 1/3 of the total tab. It was amazing, every time I thought I was done, we cuddled and I had wood again. That's my only experience with V.

I was told, like all drugs after taking it for a while, it will take a higher dosage for the same effect.

I also worried about the side effects. One of my friends died of a heart attack.  Doctors don't know what caused the heart attack. I know he took V's and drank the night before and they might have caused it.  He was in his early 50's. The V stuff he had were the real thing and not the fake ones.  He said his medical plan paid for it.


edit: changed "drinking" to "drank"
added: "He said his medical plan paid for it.'

[ Last edited by  Weelock at 26-2-2011 11:21 ]

I find it useful if I'm out on the piss.  Good to combat whiskey dick.

Pobably not the smartest thing to do, especially after reading Weeklock's comments.     But then that probably goes for a lot of things I do.

Tried a whole tab once, thought my dick would explode and I had a headache.  After I popped the first time, the wood never left me.  Sounds good, but it was too weird.  I had to jack off after cause I only paid for one pop.  Oh well.

Che'lu

Wow.. your avatar is fantastic, has to be said.

Ciallis seems to have less side effects, from googling it on ther 'net

I believe you are talking about our mutual friend - and I think you need to clarify a bit more so as NOT to get bros here too antsy about trying V or C.

Our friend stayed in CP for months on end and his DAILY habit is to pop one gal a day - and he would ALWAYS take a V before his pop for the day.

On top of that, he also had a full body check up about 6-9 months prior to him dying - and he was told that he had blockage in one of his arteries and for him to take care of it when he was back in the States.  He did go to his Stateside doctor and thought that he did "take care of it" -  but obviously, it was NOT taken care of properly.

So, guys, make what you make out of this all yourself.  Just to clarify

SEAJ

I keep on seeing viagra ads, so this stuff really works eh,  so how long does it lasts? like in terms of time

I didn't know about the "blockage in one of his arteries".  I know he and someone else had a complete check up and his results were real bad. Strangely the other guy who is almost twice as big and tall 6'3" did fairly well with his check up.

BTW, It wasn't everyday but close enough. I was with him many times for a few weeks strange. The way it sounds look like he's a drug addict.   Some days we just traveled around S China. On some days we were at the bars with another old timer guy.  

Hate to say it, I still miss the guy. I can't believe it if someone tells me today.

I havent bought mail order but have used Ciallis quite regularly and it lasts for up to 24 hours on 1 tablet

Havent used Viagra but generally research/info suggests 6 hours

I have tried both V and C for over 5 years. Normally, I take V (half tablet) about 30-45 mins before action ( with full stomach, you may need to take it about an hour before). It lasts for about 4 hours.  Some side effects that I experience include red face, stuffy nose, red vision (the red shades of color are enhanced).  These are all normal experiences being reported by users.  As for C, I normally take half a tablet 30 mins before action.  It can last for 48 hours so it's perfect when you are on a trip with your gf. I do not experience any side effects on this drug.  I have bought these 2 drugs without any prescription from a drug store Causeway Bay.

One down side from my own experience is that once you become a regular user, you tend to depend on it psychologically.

Yes, that is what I'm also worrying about.  Actually I started taking V and/or C only after I had been on the romp and coming home - worrying that the SO is gonna want to get some loving - something that she regularly do ask for when I come home late from whatever else I was supposed to be doing.

But at one stage I was thinking - "what if I can't do it without?" - even for the first pop of the day  and since then, I have always only taken it AFTER I've had my first pop/when I'm ready to go do another one within a short period of time. And C is effective within 15-20 minutes time - and don't have any effects on me like the face blushing and the Blueing of my eyesight like V - thus this is what I now use.

And BTW - C is supposed to be effective for 36 hours - but I've gone a whole three days on half a C pill - so I think C is just great.

BTW - was it Hugh Hefner that said that these ED medications are the best recreational drug for him??!!

SEAJ

V pills and C pills come in different sizes.  V pills come in 100g and 50g. C pills come in tablet of 10g, 20g or 40g.  So what are the sizes of your pills ?

I also heard the fake stuff is not as strong as the real stuff. One fake V pill at 100g is like 1/4 of the real stuff.

Half a pill means literally that, half a pill.  If a pill is 100g, then half is 50g.  To cut it in half you use a pill cutter available on the shelf at any pharmacy, thus a 100g pill becomes two 50g pills.  People do this with no-ED, regular pills when the dosage is more than necessary.

so what are the differences?

I decided to go with C since i read that it has less side effects.
I bought a pack of C at the pharmacy next to K-Pressure.
Took 1/3 of the 40 g and it worked wonders.
Didn't have any side effects at all.

I'm quite sure its 50mg for v and not 50g. Not tried either before because from what I believe if you can get it up then not much point in taking unless you're looking for multiple pops within a short space of time or overnight...
They both work by vasodilation of the blood vessels so one of the common side effects will be a headache (presumable from vasodilation of blood vessels in brain), can also cause flushing of face and dizziness (from drop in blood pressure). Bros with heart disease need to beware especially if they are taking nitrate medicines for angina as the combination can cause a very sharp drop in blood pressure. As for the stroy about blockage in heart there is no evidence these medicines cause this (otherwise they probably would have been withdrawn from the market by now), most likely that guy had underlying heart disease irrespective whether he took vs are not.....

Not true. There are other stories of heart attack with viagra besides this article.  Do a search on the web. The drug companies want to tone it down because it will hurt sales.

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Unfortunately, the action that Viagra has on nerve activity that causes relaxation of the smooth muscles in the penis, also seems to increase sympathetic nerve activity (the nerve activity that causes blood vessels to constrict). There have been several reports of heart attack, heart arrhythmia and even deaths that have been related to victims who were using Viagra.
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•Men with unstable cardiovascular disease should not use Viagra. These include history of heart attack or diagnosis of heart failure.
•Men taking Viagra should notify their physicians if they have any problems while taking Viagra, such as dizziness, loss of consciousness or palpitations.
•Men seeking a treatment for erectile dysfunction with Viagra need to obtain a prescription from a physician who has a complete knowledge of their health history and any medications that they may be taking.
•Viagra is a very powerful medication that has improved life for a great many men, but it is also dangerous for many. If your medical condition prevents you from taking Viagra for Erectile dysfunction, talk to your doctor about alternative treatments.

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