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Post at 10-10-2007 12:44  Profile P.M. 
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Tip before or after

This came on as a wee bit of discussion on Hunter's post regarding a Thai girl he visited in Sham Shui Po.

Should we tip before or after?

I have always struggled with the notion of this myself. On one hand, tipping before might induce the girl to give you better service...on the other hand, she's already got the money, so she might just slack off.

Any suggestions?

Also, Hunter said he will never go for girls below HKD 700...given that all girls in Kowloon City are 350- 500, does that mean Kowloon City girls are a total No No?
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Post at 10-10-2007 13:07  Profile P.M. 
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Personally I would give a tip if the service is good;

if I pay extra and the service is not up to my standard, can I get a refund?

Hunter is into Hotel reservation girls, not 141

if you do a comparison on prices for the PRC Hotel girls and 141, the difference is minimal.
Take the hotel girls' prices minus 200 (for the room), you see 500-700
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Post at 10-10-2007 13:29  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 Schmuckass's post

The whole point of a tip is to reward for above average performance. Why would anyone tip beforehand - that would be like tipping the waiter before even tasting the food.

I don't even pay her basic fee until after the deed is done.
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Post at 10-10-2007 13:32  Profile P.M. 
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Yeah, I don't tip till after, if I even tip at all.

If the service can be improved, I just tell the girls then that I'm going to tip them if they do better, and that usually gets their attention.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by English at 10-10-2007 13:32
I just tell the girls then that I'm going to tip them if they do better, and that usually gets their attention.

GOOD POINT! I  never thought of that. From now on, when the girl has all the physical requirements for a perfect screw, I'm going to tell her up front that I'm a generous tipper for excellent performance. Hmm... lab coat Jenkins, let the experiment begin.
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Post at 10-10-2007 14:17  Profile P.M. 
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Tipping before doesn't make any sense and sets a bad precedent.  If this practice picks up, bros will be the ones suffering.  

In almost every situation where I've paid the fee beforehand, the service was either pitiful or just barely acceptable.  Girls with a genuine attitude to give you service should have enough confidence to take payment afterwards.  Tipping really depends on how satisfied you are of her service or your experience.  I have once tipped a girl for her impeccable attitude and service even though I didn't even come.
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Post at 10-10-2007 18:08  Profile P.M. 
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Personally, service has always been better when I'm nicer to the girls. They do screw for money, but dammit, they're women too. If you treat them nice, they'll respond accordingly.
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Reply #7 English's post

And why would anyone NOT want to be nice to the girl? Great sex is more than just having an orgasm in a beautiful body. The monger also desires intimacy and emotional communion. Sure it might be just a momentary illusion, but there's a huge difference in the quality of the experience if the girl at least doesn't dislike you. One reason I love mongering is that I REALLY like women. Isn't the gold standard of a great session the GFE? You don't get that by being an insensitive asshole!

This may seem like common sense, but I'm sure that not everyone knows how or sees the necessity in making the effort to show the girl that you know she's a human being deserving of respect and affection. Afterward, I always thank the girls, and most seem surprised to be thanked.

Sorry to sound preachy on this, but it's something of an obsession with me.
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Post at 11-10-2007 01:46  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #8 Marsupial's post

Marsupial - you're such a romantic. Do you ever take them flowers?     

And, when you thank them, do you bow and kiss their hand?       
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Post at 11-10-2007 02:02  Profile P.M. 
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by English at 10-10-2007 06:08 PM
Personally, service has always been better when I'm nicer to the girls. They do screw for money, but dammit, they're women too. If you treat them nice, they'll respond accordingly.

Marsupial, English,

I see people bought up the right way in you two.

My thoughts exactly regarding treating them ladies well. That also extends to giving them some tips thereafter. Sadly there have been times when I have had very dead response from the other side and that really shakes my tree and sheds my leaves...
Nevertheless apart from tipping them well (As at the end of the day these ladies are doing this really sub-base stuff for money and they really dont make much from their papas, so any chipping in from us helps) I think treating them well is not only the right thing to do but also gives these ladies a sense of civilities in a profession where they can  simply be marginalised and treated badly. The final equation is that most of these ladies do respect this and are more giving in return   .....
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Post at 11-10-2007 02:07  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #9 Jake's post

Something like that - It's their little flower I want to kiss.

And Jake, in spite of the hard-noised mongering Brit routine, we all know that deep down you're just an old softy.

I was raised in an almost sexless puritan New England family, and I think, deep down, after all these years, I'm still amazed that these beautiful young women let me have them for so little - and afterwards I feel genuinely grateful.

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 11-10-2007 02:28 ]
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Post at 11-10-2007 02:13  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #11 Marsupial's post

          
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by Marsupial at 11-10-2007 02:07
Something like that - It's their little flower I want to kiss.  

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Post at 11-10-2007 12:43  Profile P.M. 
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too bad I don't have the rights to rate this post, but never mind







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Reply #14 sulasno's post

Whats wrong with this post? Seems to have gotten the attention of quite a few people!?

I do agree with the gentleman approach. After all, Shakespeare said, "Manners mayketh the man", a motto that I live by. Ha!

Having said that, I bet there are a few people who'd love to take their frustrations out hired help. Not that I commend this at all, but I bet people do it.
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Reply #15 Schmuckass's post

nothing is wrong with this post


oooops another shakespeare and where is our beloved Mr Lantau







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Post at 11-10-2007 22:42  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 Schmuckass's post

Wow.......you did your homework...

I gave upfront tips b'cos at that time I just arrived HK and I do not know the practice here.
Tipping upfront was my habit in non-Asia countries.

It is more wise to give tips after the session......but to lure the gal to provide better service......u can tell her upfront that u will tip her well if she perform well. ( I always use this line)

HKD700......my personal preference b'cos I experienced lousy service/ skills with certain walk ups........no comment or view on other location or any other gal with pricing < $700.

Just my personal minimum.......




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Post at 17-10-2007 10:33  Profile P.M. 
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tip, why tip?

on the menu it says 10% service charge included!
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Post at 19-10-2007 11:55  Profile P.M. 
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After and ONLY after.
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Post at 26-10-2007 10:35  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #18 bootfetish's post

Yes but I would presume that the 10% service charge goes to the agent, whoever they may be.

I presume the tips are for the girl and the girl only. Or when the pimp goes rough on her, she can cough up something extra to avoid, as Wayne Brady said on the Dave Chapelle sketch "choke a bitch". It was funny on the sketch...
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