Subject: Confessions of an HIV-positive prostitute
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Confessions of an HIV-positive prostitute

From her appearance, Pui, 31, (not her real name) looks like a perfectly normal, healthy Thai woman. But she is actually HIV-positive. By day Ms Pui is a part-time cleaner and a mother to a 16-year-old daughter; by nights, she is a freelance prostitute, working along Sukhumvit Road. She has sold her body for the past eight years.

Ms Pui, who keeps her condition a secret from her family and friends, has unprotected sex with customers, even though having sex without a condom is probably how she contracted the disease in the first place.

"Now it's too late for me to think what I should have done better in the past. Surely I would do things differently by insisting on a condom. I was careless."

A life on the streets was never what she contemplated when Ms Pui left her native village in Loei province in northeastern Thailand about 13 years ago, to look for work in Bangkok. She made the move so she could support herself, her young daughter and her parents.

"I'm not the only one who has done it. There are many other girls who left poverty-stricken villages and came to Bangkok looking for a better life, but not all ended as prostitutes or HIV-positive like me. It was not my intention to become a prostitute, but because of a lack of education [she only had six years of schooling], I couldn't get a well-paid job here," she said.

"When I came to Bangkok the first time, I was about 18. I could only find an unskilled job in a factory, for 4,500 baht a month.

"It was enough then, but as my parents were getting older and my daughter growing up, I needed more money.

"I wanted her to be well-educated so she could get a good job, and not end up like me. And the only way to make extra money was to become a prostitute. I started when I was about 23, and I've been doing it ever since," Ms Pui said.

"I was definitely infected by a farang, because at that time I only went with them, but now I'll go with anyone, whether they are Arab, African, Japanese or whatever, provided they give me money," she said with the same degree of coolness she displayed during the entire interview.

She doesn't know when she was infected, or who did it.

"It might have been the first man. Who knows?" she said.

Ms Pui goes out looking for customers about 6pm daily, except on Sundays, which she spends with her 16-year-old daughter. Because she is relatively better looking than most of the other women working the streets, she says she can get customers almost every day.

"I'll walk or stand on the pavement of Sukhumvit Road between sois 3 and 5, and sometimes sit in open bars. Since Middle Eastern men prefer fat girls to skinny ones, who are in the majority, I usually have no problem finding a customer.

"I charge 1,000 baht for a short time and prefer not to use a condom, because it's faster. I can make money easily and go home. I'll take only one customer per day, and if I can't then I'll go home at 11pm.

"I can't stay too late because I must get up at 6am to send my daughter to school and then go to work," she said.

Ms Pui doesn't show much consideration to her foreign clients and readily agrees to, and even encourages unprotected sex, despite knowing that she might infect not only her customers, but also their wives and girlfriends as well as other prostitutes. Some of her foreign customers, she says, take two or even three women every day.

Surprisingly, Ms Pui blames men for the problems she faces, but denies she is seeking revenge by deliberately infecting them.

"Most of the men, especially from the Middle East and Africa, won't use a condom. Every man who takes girls from the street should realise the risk of contracting HIV or other sexually transmitted diseases. It appears to me that they don't really care, so why should I? I'm HIV-positive, they are not!

"The business around Sukhumvit is getting worse for Thai women because of the influx of prostitutes mainly from Uzbekistan and African countries. They'll stand on the pavement the same as we do and approach foreigners who are passing.

"This gives us a lot of competition, because many men, especially from the Middle East, like to take them," she complained. "For sure, I'm not the only one who is HIV-positive working on the street. There are others as well."

Other street women and transsexuals who are joining them on the street in increasing numbers will have sometimes two or even three customers in one day.

"What can I do? I need money now more than ever before. My daughter is a bright student and I want her to continue her studies at a university, so that she can get a well-paid job when she grows up and not end up like me.

"She wants to be a doctor, but I doubt that this will be possible because I don't have enough money to give her that kind of education."I also have to take care of my 65-year-old ailing father.

My mother died six years ago, when she was 44. She didn't want me to have an abortion; at the time I was only 15-years-old.

"The child's father, a 20-year-old Thai man, left me before she was born, and never contacted or supported us.

"I haven't had a boyfriend since and I don't think that I want one now. I like to stay alone with my daughter."

Ms Pui discovered she was HIV-positive about two years ago after she applied for a manual job with a government agency and was told to have a medical examination before she could start work.

"When I saw the result, I was devastated and tore the medical certificate to pieces. I couldn't sleep, eat or do anything for days, and I cried constantly. I thought: 'I am dead.'

"I thought that my sick father and daughter would lose their only breadwinner, and it made me miserable and it still does. After the blood test, I didn't contact the government agency. "I couldn't go back and tell them because others would find out sooner or later about my misfortune." It took her a few days to pull herself together and to find a full-time cleaning job with a private company, where she earns 7,500 baht a month, and importantly for her, there was no compulsory medical check-up required. At the same time she returned to Sukhumvit Road, looking for men.

"As my income from cleaning is not enough, I have to subsidise it by going with men. There's nothing else for me to do. I have to pay 2,500 baht for a room and utilities, send 2,000 baht monthly to my family and look after my daughter." At Spectrum's request, she went to a city hospital and took a further test, which confirmed the original result.

After her first HIV test, a doctor suggested she start taking a cocktail of anti-retroviral drugs. She refused, saying it would result in pimples on her face. "Even now, I'm not taking any medicine or getting treatment. But I'm otherwise healthy, apart for an occasional cold. In fact, I'm getting fat. I now weigh almost 75kg."
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Post at 18-3-2010 03:12  Profile P.M. 
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thats a sad story. i hope she finds help and her daughter has a better life
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Post at 18-3-2010 05:52  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 advancivic5050's post

sad story! how tall is she? 165lb is a heavy girl!!! all the best to her and her family...




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Post at 18-3-2010 06:52  Profile P.M. 
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Yea sad story.... what this story published on any major websites?  Only other similar stuff I've seen is a story about Asian sex slaves in San Francisco area and a natgeotv bit.
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Post at 18-3-2010 07:29  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 advancivic5050's post

The story is sad but I'd say most PRC girls in the same boat but without AIDS.
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Post at 18-3-2010 07:33  Profile P.M. 
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Wow, I hate stories like this.  Very sad.  I wish her the best.  Every time I feel a tingle, I think I might have an STD, but the test come back clean.  This would be absolutely crippling.
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Post at 18-3-2010 08:33  Profile P.M. 
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SAD STORY?!

Fuck this bitch! She is fucking infecting men and she knows it.  She should fucking die and deserves to fucking have HIV if she keeps doing this shit.  It's scary enough for us mongers who can't control our primal urges, now we have a bitch in Thailand who is knowingly passing HIV to customers.  It's scary enough for us, that's why I love the Champ B girls who usually insist on CBJ and says the same thing, safe for you, safe for me, I feel better after fucking them, although I love BBBJ and thoroughly enjoy it more, afterwards, I still feel a sense of guilt and slight fear.

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Post at 18-3-2010 09:32  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 advancivic5050's post

Do not cut and paste an artical in this forum without giving its source, date of printing
and other relevant information ... what you post coulb be misleading !
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Reply #8 twiceAweek's post

I concur. Googled it and found it was from Bangkok Post.




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Post at 18-3-2010 16:48  Profile P.M. 
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the very least is to reference the site where it came from.
regardless this is unfortunate and prevalent if they don't take the necessary precautions, which should also remind the bros to take heed to safety first!
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Everyone assumes that the story is true. Given the journalistic standards of the Bangkok Post, it's more likely that they just made up this whole thing -- especially to cater to their readers' prejudices ("AIDS is a disease of Issan people and farangs"). Of course, there are many real HIV+ prostitutes on the streets of Bangkok. But I don't think the Bangkok Post went to the trouble of interviewing one.
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Post at 19-3-2010 07:50  Profile P.M. 
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Thanks for confirming this. I read the article just after it was posted and thought why the hell isn't there a reference to where it came form?




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Post at 19-3-2010 09:30  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #7 sexpert's post

I totally agree with sexpert...

Sure it's sad that you're poor and that you need to resort to prostitution to make ends meet, blah blah blah...

BUT this bitch needs to burn in hell for knowingly infecting every client she comes across....
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Post at 19-3-2010 14:50  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 advancivic5050's post

Sad story if actually true. It is sad that her Karma is so bad and will be constantly getting worse, obviously being HIV+ is horrible but fact that she is so cold and without any bit of concern for her customers is the real tragedy.  She is fat. Don't think the punter who is fucking her would be too concerned with a few pimples.  Not taking the HIV Drug Cocktail for fear of pimples is another part of the story that indicates a true lack of concern.
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Post at 19-3-2010 19:36  Profile P.M. 
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god knows how many other people she has infected and worse these people who are infected do not know about it and continue passing on to others.. eventually.. not even the purest/new places will hold out.. eg.. CP etc..
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by jw510 at 19-3-2010 07:50
Thanks for confirming this. I read the article just after it was posted and thought why the hell isn't there a reference to where it came form?

I don't think that was intentional obfuscation on the original poster's part. I think he was just trying to rack up credits or whatever and didn't know the rules of citing. And one would have to know a lot about Thailand to know what the Bangkok Post is. (Imagine a trashy tabloid, but written for rich people, not poor people.)
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Post at 20-3-2010 00:32  Profile P.M. 
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Unprotected vaginal intercourse would have approximately  0.5-1.0% risk of transmission.  So every 100-200 days, she would be infecting another person, provided she has unprotected intercourse with 1 punter each day.  Scary stuff.
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Disease transmission is primarily downstream, and she has a compromised immune system, so she's at greater risk than her customers.

After giving it another read, I'm pretty certain the story is entirely made up.  It just doesn't add up, other than as how some upper middle class Bangkok housewife imagines the life of a street prostitute. (Reminds me of Go Ask Alice.)
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by cooldog at 20-3-2010 00:32
Unprotected vaginal intercourse would have approximately  0.5-1.0% risk of transmission.  So every 100-200 days, she would be infecting another person, provided she has unprotected intercourse with 1  ...

where did u get this statistic?
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Reply #19 xiaodidi's post

Bros, esp the newer ones to the forum, let's not start w/ the stats on transmission of STDs.  If you run a search, you'll see that we've had some pretty heated threads about this issue.  Bangkok Post also isn't exactly the gold standard when it comes to reporting, so let's just continue to remind each other to be safe.  If this WG is real, and in fact doing what the article says, it should just be a reminder for all of us about how necessary it is to practice safe sex.

Assuming this article is true, I personally don't agree with comments about how sad and pitiful this WG is.  I agree w/ sexpert.  I'd pity her if she wasn't being a bitch and knowingly going out of her way to infect other people.
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