Subject: hong kong to macau bridge
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hong kong to macau bridge

China today announced it had begun construction of the world's longest sea bridge – barely 18 months after opening the current record-holder.

The Y-shaped link between Hong Kong, Macau and China will be around 50km (31 miles) long in total, 35km of which will span the sea, said the state news agency Xinhua. Due to be completed by 2015, the 73bn yuan (£6.75bn) cost of the bridge will be shared by the authorities in the three territories.
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the structure also includes a 5.5km underwater tunnel with artificial islands to join it to bridges on each side. According to the engineering group Arup – which has helped with the design – it is the first major marine bridge-and-tunnel project in China. But the engineering firm described the structure as 38km in length; the reason for the disparity was unclear.

Work is expected to begin with land reclamation to create an artificial island of around 216 hectares (540 acres) off Zhuhai. This will become the customs point for those making the crossing.

But much of the structure will be prefabricated offsite, so, for example, the concrete deck sections can be produced at the same time as the foundations are laid. The tunnel will be made of precast sections – each 100 metres long.

"It is designed with a service life of 120 years. It can withstand the impact of a strong wind with a speed of 51 meters a second, or equal to a maximum Beaufort scale 16 (184 to 201kmph)," said Zhu Yongling, an official in charge of the project construction. "It can also resist the impact of a magnitude-8 earthquake and a 300,000-tonne vessel."

A computer-generated image of the £6.75bn bridge, much of which will be fabricated offsite Six lanes of traffic will pass across the bridge at a maximum speed of 100kmph, cutting driving time from Hong Kong to Zhuhai from four hours to one.

The bridge was first proposed in 1983 as a way of fostering economic ties between China, Hong Kong and Macau. But it will be particularly welcome as the Pearl River Delta – for many years the hub of China's manufacturing – is buffeted by economic problems. The area's attempt to move up the value chain, combined with the rise of the yuan and the global economic crisis, has seen exports plummeting.

The bridge is one component in a plan issued in January by China's top economic planning body, the National Development and Reform Commission, which aims to fuse the area and the two special administrative regions, Hong Kong and Macau, into one of the world's most vibrant economic centres by 2020. In particular, the government hopes it will help to develop the western side of Guangdong province.

"It is a move for Hong Kong, Macau and the Pearl River Delta region to cope with global economic downturn, boost investment and inspire people," said the vice-premier, Li Keqiang, at the inauguration ceremony in Guangdong. "Meanwhile, it can also further increase [their] links and promote economic co-operation."

Hong Kong has said the bridge should generate $HK45bn (£3.6bn) of economic benefits within the first two decades of use, Reuters reported.

According to an article in New Civil Engineer magazine earlier this year, the bridges cross three navigation channels while the tunnel goes under a fourth.

"There is an airport nearby, so we could not build a bridge [in that area] which was the reason for the tunnel. The immersed tube is the longest in the world at 5.5km long," Naeem Hussain, global bridge leader at Arup, told the publication.

He said the bridge's piers would each be 170 metres high and that the design team had minimised the structures impact on estuary flows by limiting the size and number of columns in the water.

But the WWF and other environmental campaigners have warned that construction could devastate marine ecosystems and endanger the rare Chinese white dolphin, which is found in the estuarine waters of the Pearl river. Officials say they have already considered environmental issues in planning the project.

"We will control the construction noises and turbidity of seawater, and prevent oil pollution," Zhu told Xinhua.

It is only a year and a half since China opened a 36km span across Hangzhou Bay – in the eastern province of Zhejiang – which is currently the longest sea-bridge.

Wang Yong, the head of that project, said the design had led to more than 250 technological innovations and engineering breakthroughs, many of which will no doubt prove useful in building the new construction. He added that the Hangzhou bridge survived 19 severe challenges, including typhoons, tides, and geological problems during the three and a half years of construction.

The longest water-spanning bridge in the world is the Lake Pontchartrain causeway bridge in New Orleans, at 38.4km. But officials said that Hangzhou was a particularly difficult site to build because of its complex climate
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Reply #2 bigboy4791's post

Please explain :

1.  Why did you posted this in the reports section ?
2.  What is your purpose for posting this here ?
3.  Is this a joke ?
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no it not a joke , just want some of bros know there they making of bridge from hong kong to macau.
i was happy when i hear it .

sorry if i posted on the wrony section.
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Reply #4 bigboy4791's post

Are you going to post everything that you're happy to hear ?  

Lets stick with the basics and keep this a sex forum ... please !
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I disagree with the moderator slightly here.  Wrong forum obviously, but this is really good information.  There's been talk about this for a long time.

From a mongering standpoint, dudes from HK can now drive there in less than an hour and come back in the wee hours of the morning, rather than depending on the ferry.
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Reply #6 JeSun's post

and I slightly disagree with your point ... the 2 posts were cut and paste ONLY, from somewhere ...
the poster does not ask a question nor does he put anything in it to start a chat ...
Posts like this should have been for a news section which no longer have
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Reply #6 JeSun's post

It's good info to know that it can save time to monger in Macau and Zhuhai. However we don't really want to know the technical specs on the bridge and construction

It's not like you're gonna talk about what kind of foundation technique that will be used for the project
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Reply #8 asia-play's post

I would still stick with the ferries.  Nothing I hate the most is travelling on a route or road that only has a few lanes that can be easily backed up by one accident or a granny driver.  And I am sure the bridge will be packed by lots of trucks all day and night making it a hellish journey with lots of crawling traffic.  It is not like one can turn off to look for a shortcut once one is on the bridge.  

Ferries give me flexibility and they are reliable wth regards to time.
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Reply #9 doghead's post

Anyways, it's all wishful thinking until 2015 to see any benefits

So the only way to get to Macau is either boat or helicopter.
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I did actually thought this was a joke when i first heard abt it


The cost is astronomical in anyone's estimation and are the benefits really worth the spending of that cash? It will be easier to drive to those places, sure, but the length of that bridge is just so long i cannot even comprehend how it can be seen as a worthwhile exercise. There are some places where a bridge is not the best solution between those 2 or 3 points.
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Reply #10 asia-play's post

Cunning said he would take me in his car once the bridge is built!...yay!

only 5 years to wait!
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The bridge is great...  everytime i go to macau from hong kong, i get seasick...
so this time, maybe when i go to macau, i won get seasick and maybe see an MP on the first night instead of waiting and feeling better before seeing one.
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Reply #3 twiceAweek's post

I guess bigboy4791 is in the same business as me - construction. He just hasn't realised yet that everybody except other engineers find the details to be mind-numbingly boring.   I think this bridge will be amazing. I just hope nobody expects it to be finished on-time,
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Reply #14 pisser's post

Nor on time  ...  ?  
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Reply #13 detox842's post

Motion sickness sucks.  I used to suffer the same thing when I was younger.  Have you tried eating crystallised ginger?  One of my mates used to get motion sickness.  Then a pharmist suggested ginger and he hasn't been sick since.
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Reply #15 twiceAweek's post

Like I say, i work in construction and I've never been on a job yet that finished on time - except once when the client paid a shit-load of extra money for the contractor to accelerate and recover time already lost. Contractors have a whole section of guys that do nothing but look for ways to claim extra time and money. And that starts at the tender stage. I once found a mistake in the tender documents and we didn't tell the client. Instead we exploited it and made millions in extra profit. But why the fuck am I discussing work on a sex forum.      Except I do love my job, which is why I'm also back in Hong Kong.
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Reply #17 pisser's post

are you're one of those guys who look for ways to screw their client out of time and money ?  
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Reply #17 pisser's post

that's pretty common in the US to offer extra compensation for completing the work ahead of time.  When a driver badly damaged a very key connector ramp from one expressway to another expressway last year here in Oakland, the contractor hauled ass and got the connector rebuilt in a week or so and made a hefty profit.

I wished there was more incentives like this.  We've been waiting 20 fucking years for our train subway system just to extend 6 damn kilometers in Fremont, CA. The latest estimate is that it will be completed in the next 4 years.  Yet, in SZ they're able to build out 5 complete lines, hundreds of kilometers, in a matter of a few years.  What's the difference?
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Reply #18 twiceAweek's post

I'm just doing my job and trying get a promotion, or even just keep my job. None of the extra profits go to me - I wish.   And it works the other way round - clients always try to pay the contractor as little as possible and try to avoid paying for extra work.

JeSun - you're right. If clients would cough up the extra cash, the work can always be speeded up.
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