Just had a full std check, all ok however the std doc mentioned that he and some colleagues had recently completed a study of Hong Kong WGs, finding that 20% of the PRC girls - MCOT - had syph!!!  But that it was much less common for the South East Asians and that they thought the difference was due to some PRC never getting themselves tested.

Scary stuff, especially given that it can be transmitted by BBBJ (although the chances are low).

I also asked about DFK - which a canadian std clinic had summarized as being high risk for syph, as poated last month - he said that this is BS unless you have a cut in your mouth.

some questions come to mind, like how legit is their study? what procedures? how many wg's participated? BUT the one question that I think is most important is . . . did they treat the gals that were infected???? the dreaded corkscrew, always sends chills whenever I hear it being mentioned.

TunaTin, the study was of HK WGs. Would these have been walkups only,
or do you think they included HGs as well?

I wouldn't be betting on it, HGs being here for such a short time and not having much free time to take part in studies like this. How would the researchers even know of or reach a HG, by calling their agent via 141?

Sounds reasonable. It leaves the question open, then,
whether PRC HGs would show a similar incidence.
Food for thought.

Truly alarming

Statistics are often used to great effect. Not wanting to diminish the warning carried in this thread in any way but.

20% of PRC girls tested where?
Are we talking about testing of an out reach program for street workers, or a scientific* across the board study.

The PRC HG are in HK for short visits and therefore need to maximize their earnings in a short time, I wonder if this leads to risker behavior.

Test the older rougher end of the market near ports and you will often find very scary statistics.

If I get offered BBS I never return, I not scared of getting something from a WG but from something from one of her clients.

*Statistical manipulation is also problem in scientific research, selective choice of data sets .....

A Study of Asian WG near the port of Newcastle (the Australian one) showed a 1% infection rate of drug resistant Gonorrhea.
Head line 1% of  WG in Newscastle have drug resistant Gonorrhea (it was one girl, tracked back to from a few clients that showed up at clinics)

Sorry guys that's all the info I have, I didn't ask in any more detail, will try to remember for next check up.

Anyway that thought have pushed me back to CBJ .  On the flip side the poll for stds on this forum shows very little syph so maybe that BBBJ transmission rate is very very low...or not, as it can take 6 months for syph to show up in tests (in extreme cases).

Hunter: what about HPV?

i think hunt means that most of WGs (actually a lot of civvies too) have HPV and may be asymptomatic. the ratio could be a lot higher than the 20% for syph.

if the guy visits WGs and gets HPV, and passes to his girlfriend without knowing, the GF's next guy may get it too. or the ladymay have multiple partners and even if you wear a condom, HPV can still be contracted.

Remembered to ask Doc about the study.

It's for the department of health.  Large number of WGs tested, although they don't seek the girls out, rather they set up a center that girls can go to.  So maybe a little bit of bias here, WGs with symptoms more likely to go.

Anyway PRC girls who are just over for a few weeks made up about 30% of the study and a similar number of more permanent PRC another 30%.  Both groups were 20% syph

Wan Chai WGs were also a big part of the study, syph levels were much lower but C levels were at 20%.

Good info bcs74.  If syph wasn't so profitable for the big drug companies, some smart group would develop a vaccine for this.  Then we could put this one behind us.

Total bummer about the hep C level at 20%.  At least syphilis you can cure.

drug manufactures dont do much cures too much as that is not profitable, for example, some USA medical companys need to do research and do patent on their medicine which can be in the millions of dollors. the process may take very long before the company can actually sell the drug.

if the cure was found, for a customer its good bc it cures it and not worry but it will be maybe a one time deal

where as a treatment a customer may need to depend on it and keep buying the drug from the medical company many times to treat it but the disease may come back again which to the manufacture of these treatment drugs are happy for a return customer.

i think if the medical industry really wanted to find a cure for all the disease they would how ever this may not be profitable and thats why they want you to buy some kind of drug or go though some kind of treatment as much time as possible, until the next time

I should have been more specific by C I meant Chlamydia.  Sexually transmissited hep I believe is around 10% for PRC.

Syph is scary enough in itself, you can be asymptomatic for 6 months and in that time pass it onto your SO!  And if you don't start treating it in time you can't be cured.  However it's very low in the sex141 poll of stds so I guess the transmission rates must be low for anything but BBML.