At a few times at GFS, some of the massage girls offered to introduce me to their female friends.  It seems these friends are not in the same industry (nor sex-related) as these massage girls.  Yet all these friends are from the mainland because most of these massage girls are originally from China so it would natural for them to make friends with people that come from the same place.  

I know most bros would advise against a guy dating a sauna girl, ktv girl, or wg.  But how about their friends?  And how would the girls introduce me to their friends when they already know that if I already visit the saunas, I can't be the nicest, moralistic guy.  

Any ideas?

Its all very well if the girl(s) she introduce are decent looking and up to your expectations but just think
if she turns out to be less then what you expect ...be pretty awkward on the first meet !
Play safe and ask for her pic before you meet !!!

Regarding your question about having a relationship with the sauna girl's friend ... is the relationship
going to be pay as you go or are you expecting little or no money transactions ?
no free lunches in this world especially when women are involved !!!

I've had the same thing happen to me in the States whenever I go to AMP's.  Many don't know I am married and always tells me about a "biao mei" cousin who is "bu xiang wo" not like me, in this type of business.  I've never taken up on the offer, although many a times very tempted to.

There isn't any harm for you to meet some new friends.

doghead,

i have met friends and family of sex workers. they are usually in the same type of profession or had been in the past. they are pretty harmless to hang out, 90% are expecting the freerolls on lunch, dinner, and/or clubbing. but it might only be a networking thing. trying to get u to introduce your friends to her friends, and have big orgies or what not...

i only visit china/macau/hk once or twice a year, so meeting new people and hanging out for a short period of time is fine by me. if you live in HK, might wanna re-consider it.

Never heard of this before.  I've had AMP girls want to go out for dinner, etc. but have never had one suggest that we bring an entourage of girls and girl friends.  Usually they're too competitive for that.

Does she think you're an easy mark and she can score multiple meals/shopping for her and the gang?

i guess in this world, can't hurt too much to have a few more friends. if they have other friends, you will become popular in no time.  its only math when you think about it

She is doing her friends a favor, as for whatever reason (likely, passport), you are a good potential marriage catch. She expects similar referrals in return from her friends. And they know that white guys are much less classist than Asian guys are. (Or maybe white guys don't even realize what strata their girlfriends are from.)

To put it very crudely (I'd never admit this if any of you actually knew me in real life): I don't date down, and I don't want to get anyone's hopes up. So I firmly say no to such offers, or make up a girlfriend/wife. If you'd consider dating/marrying someone wih an elementary-school education, feel free to go for it.

Honestly, I would.  But better judgement would say that I have to get to know the girl better... unless of course you are a local and you know your way around

the girl probably thinks you have potential!!! And wants to intro you to her friends, so they may find a good mate lol.  Or she thinks your a good fish, to pry out some money for a group of girls to go out and party with and dont have to pay.

Thanks for all the advice.  I think I will take it slowly and just meet up with their new friends just for coffee/tea first, then proceed from there.  I am always keen to meet new ppl and background is not so important as I like to talk to ppl with different perspectives.  

I will just let the sauna girls know I am not looking for a gf/wife.  

As to the money part, I don't mind paying for drinks or a meal at times as drinks/meals are a great way to make the others drop their guards.  Done it many time in China and LKF.  Met some really cheap, low-class girls (though they are well-educated and have good jobs) in LKF and met some really nice ppl in TST though they are just high-school grads.  

HK's society is a bit warped in a way that guessing someone's level of classiness or integrity cannot be reliably determined from looking at someone's social/educational status.  

I think some of these sauna girls want to introduce their friends not because I have a foreign passport, it is because I come across as a nice, respectful customer who doesn't look down on them.  

And strangely even though some have offered their digits to me, it is not under the pretense for us to get together for a date, but as a convenience for me to call them and book an appointment with them at the sauna.  So these girls don't feel they themselves are good enough or right for me, but feel their friends are perfect for me.

Be careful these Chinese girls could be using you. I hate to see you taking a whole bunch of girls out t partying, drinking, dinner and etc and you have to pay for everything.

Before going out, tell you sauna girl friend you don't have that much money but you are willing to go out with her friends. This is just to test her.  I went out with a few girls shopping and each one expected me to pay for everything. It was like going on a shopping spree for them. These girls are both working girls and non-working girls.

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why test them? where you go will sorta dictate how much u spend.  if u say coffee, how much can it cost ya aside from getting to know them. if they say lets go to fancy nightblub or trendy bar, then i would watch out

I went out with a KTV girl in Panyu, Guangzhou twice.  The first time was to lunch/dinner and I taught her some English. The second time we went shopping and she wanted to me to buy her everything.  One item was a dress and I said OK. She then took me to another store and wanted another dress badly. She told me she has gone there a few time and bargained with them. The lowest price she got was ~$500RMB and she wanted me to get it for her.  It's an expensive dress for China. I said no and she got very upset.

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^^er with KTV girls they are auto matically paid company.  its sorta obvious to me usually. OP is indicating is people from non industry people or intro as friends or more.  With girls in general, its a money pit anywayz in the long run lol

Sirtiger,

My point is just be careful of Chinese girls. They might have other motives.  As for Doghead, it seems he has no problem with spending money and having a good time with girls which is great.  I have no problem with that. He also said the girls thought he is a nice guy.  

I have also heard the other way around. The guys using the girls and lying to them all the time.

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Don't believe everything they tell you.

Chinese women/girls can be extremely materialistic (of course this does not include all Chinese women).  She and her friend must have some ulterior motives.  I'm not sure about your background, but in major cities, Chinese women go into a relationship for a way out.  It could be in the form of an American Visa or may be you are really wealthy.  Anyway, there are no free lunches in the world.  You could, however, test the water out.  Maybe go out with this chick for a couple times to see what she's like.  Now, if after a couple dates, you feel you can get along, maybe consider something longer term.  But, always prepare for the worst.  Good hunting.

I would agree with most of the posters here.

Going out with her friends can be very interesting, as you'll be exposed to a side of life you probably don't know about.  So it'll be interesting, for a while at the very least, before it gets humdrum and really boring.

Be advised that yes, you will likely be expected to pay for everything, and this can include some very pricey shopping.  I've done this before, but I was just having fun so it was ok.

For example, once I was in Macau with this modelesque normal girl.  She asked me if her friends can join us at the Venetian.  I told her sure, why not, let's have dinner.  Dinner turned out to be gambling, shopping, and drinks.  This girl was an expensive date, easily 5 to 10k a time, excluding big ticket items.  Her friends, were no exception to the rule, they didn't demand big gifts, but don't expect them to pay for themselves.  Total bill, I can't remember, but it was easily 2-3k HKD per friend.  These were not hookers, and they had their own money for gambling.  However, dinner, drinks, gifts, and other incidentals are expected to be paid by you.

This is the rule, not the exception.

I work for the day my wallet is able to take a 6k-9k HKD hit a night for nothing but a fun night out with some girls