I have been punting for awhile now but ever so often I come up with this conundrum.

If visitng HG or Walkup we know what we are expecting. Even for places that offer HE we mostly know what to expect but ever so often the girls will try to upsell you for BBBJ, CIM or FS.

In the case of a of the latter, once you have agreed on the price but the girl doesn't follow through, either because she doesn't like it or is in pain or just wants you to finish quicker than you want, would you still pay them?

I do know that I take longer to orgasm sometimes and I will offer the girl to finish me with a HJ or BJ and in this case I usually pay the agreed upon upsell price for the service but for girls who expect you to finish in 3 pumps, does just entering her vag warrant a full price?

Curious if you have faced the issue and how you handled it.

Bros might want to be aware that there are some TG groups out there (probably not only on TG) where girls are doxing out guys who “don’t pay after eating” or are no shows.

No shows are situations where it’s obvious a guy has lured a girl somewhere, like to a hotel or meeting point, and from a distance decided he doesn’t like her.

Usually the offended girl will blank out personal info but take a screenshot of the bro. They will post pics, video, and chats. In some cases girls have figured out early on that a guy doesn’t intend to pay. They’ve gotten pics and video of the guys and posted them in the TG group.

Seems like they might also travel in pairs. While a girl is waiting in a hotel another girl is taking a pic as a guy passes, obviously for safety reasons.

One of the TG groups is called “Poor Dick.” It is both frightening and shocking what’s posted in there. There are many cases where the girl gives a guy lots of chances to pay up via Alipay or Octopus but the guy doesn’t. (Top up type thing.) Last resort the girls post him in this group.

I felt for the girls. Pretty unfair treatment.

A john who “didn’t pay after eating” just got his pic and HK ID posted in the “Poor Dick” TG group. I’m sure the personal information posting/doxing is actionable. But WOW, he must have done something to really upset someone. (Not sure how HK ID got found but looks like he may have fallen asleep with wallet exposed judging by some pics in the post.)

Another cute WG who I follow but have never tried got lured to a location on the weekend and then stood up. She posted about it along with screenshots of the chat. I felt badly for her.

Not great form. In my view, need to treat everyone with respect even if disappointed with service. Not worth the grief down the road.

I looked at those TG groups & most are foreigners, not Honkies. Most girls were Indo, prolly DHs. There's prolly a communication error going on. I did not see any 141 walkup girls who are chinese with a Hongkie on the TG group. These DHs often don't see themselves as prostitutes due to rationalization. They refuse FS but only do BBBJ. I've read quite a few reports from punters who picked up  a DH & while in the hotel room, they refused FS & only did BJ. The punter rolled with it, had fun anyways & paid BUT what if the punter refused to pay due to no FS? There were also more than 1 reort where payment was never discussed beforehand due to language barrier but the punter paid some HKD at the end anyways. What if the punter thought he was picking up a GF? BUT the DH was expecting payment?

Also, regarding guys who are no shows. I've been wrongly accused of that. If I set an appointment for 11am but the girl arrives more than 15 min late & I leave, that's on her. My time is valuable so just as she charges HKD for her time, my time is also valuable.   

Or maybe the guy bailed due to B&S. ALL agent's pics have been PSed. Basically, ALL hotel girls B&S.

[ Last edited by  drjoker6969 at 3-6-2024 21:14 ]

Legit providers (those who honor the negotiated contract) will always be upfront and clear with the price and services.  The best way to filter the legit ones will always be a challenge. The reviews will always be helpful as a guide but still won’t guarantee the sex workers legitimacy. If a hobbyist is just visiting(not a local),there is a good chance for a hustler/scammer will upsell you. Roll of the dice is always part of the game. Sometimes you get a gem, sometimes you get a stinker.

Here’s an etiquette issue somewhat related to the above for bros to be aware of.

I recently learned that many of these TG groups report on the guys they’re connecting up with.   I gather they’re doing this to find out if a guy is legit or problematic prior to hooking up.

I also suspect there might be some “bragging rights” going on. If a WG or DH lands a guy for a nice chunk of change, they’ll post about it… including posting a guy’s TG name via a chat screenshot. (Not good!) These are groups that guys are NOT in… the groups that guys ARE IN, chat screenshots will have names scratched out.

For some, posting screenshots of chats seems to be a regular thing.

I’ve posted above about poor form on a guy’s side and above issue is poor form on the girl’s side as far as I’m concerned.

All the more reason to be using a burner phone or secondary phone to protect your identity.

My rule is always negotiate services and always pay as agreed. Unless you agree an extra amount for a specific service that she chooses not to offer (I.e bbbj for extra but she then refuses half way through a booking) but even then it depends on the amount. If it’s not an amount worth arguing over I’d pay and walk away and warn others that I’d been scammed via forums.

My simple rule is... confirm the price before walking in, and confirm the service

If you don't get what you want... I would always regretfully pay.. but I would share the experience here so others won't suffer the loss of money/service.

Most of the girls.. would all have some connection to triad or gangs, so in my opinion... pay what was agreed.. don't tip and leave

In all honesty, I've never had a problem, I'm clear with what service I want, for the Chinese Girls, I show the Chinese language for Anal, Facial or Rim Job and they say the price.

There is never any communication issue!