Hey bros - first time poster on the forum. Appreciate everyone's insights, helped me get a good sense of what to expect in HK when I visit next week (leisure). First timer.

Question - I'm an Indian guy in my early 20's. Born and raised in the US (so American accent) and pretty fair-skinned, shaven, well groomed. What are the chances WGs in HK refuse service? Russians/PRC/others? And if I book a walk-up in advance? Appreciate the help fellas

hi nishbro,

I don't think you should have any problems because my friends are non Asians and they had fun in hk, china and macau.  the most important thing is don't act like a thug or g but a gentleman and that will put them at ease.  you can start by looking at this database, http://go141.com/en/
enjoy and have fun!

Hi BMs,

I am an Indian and I can be easily Identified by looks. I have been visiting Thailand, Singapore(mostly for PRC girls). I am planing to visit Hong Kong(hotel is booked). As my primary goal is mongering, my concern is same as OP's.

I am dark skinned(not too dark). I dress well. I am fairly generous with money.

How will I be received by walk-up working girls?

I would appreciate any advise to enjoy my vacation to fullest.

Thanks in advance.
RJ

I’m not sure about HK, but I have heard that in Thailand there is an issue for Indians.  But it’s not much different than being a white guy at Thermae.  Sure there are going to be some that with a bias, but luckily there are enough opportunities that you shouldn’t get hung up any those options.

There was a young lady at Thermae that pushed all of my buttons, but would not make eye contact with me.  When I approached her she basically ignored me.  I’m an attractive guy and in good shape.  But she obviously wasn’t interested. It seemed like she was only interested in our Japanese brothers.  No worries, I found a very good alternative across the room.  

For what it’s worth, there were certainly ladies there that I wasn’t interested in.  So what’s the difference.

What I heard from one (in KL, not HK) as we were chit-chatting and, fairly or unfairly, this is what she told me ...

(Don't mean to insult you or piss you off specifically)

She did not like Indians because she said they smelled and were stingy with money.  I've never had to worry about this bias so take the below for what its worth ...

Hygiene should be a concern for anyone.  I personally try to wear nice jeans and polo's, deodorant and definitely do not do cologne.  Re: money, you may have to overcompensate initially e.g. flash your money, buy lots of drinks at a bar, offer tips, and don't negotiate (or at least too hard) etc.

I have noticed that quite allot of Chinese people discriminate Indians.  I also know that some wgs are quite choosey with regards to their clients.

I don't want to stereotype, and I don't want to insult, but GIVING YOU HONEST feedback from the ladies: pretty much exactly what above poster said, they don't like indians because they smell and are cheap. (And some of the bouncers in wan chai don't like indians because years ago some indians were causing trouble, getting into fights with people).

Of course there are a few gross dudes (could be ANY NATIONALITY OR ETHNIC BACKGROUND, all guys stink without proper hygiene) and those few Indian guys ruin it for everybody, which causes a stereotype.


It's easy to OVERCOME this prejudice, this is what I recommend:

WAN CHAI
#1) Look your best.  Don't head out to Wan Chai in casual jeans in Tshirt.  You are trying to defeat a stereotype, so dress up and look sharp even if it's unnecessary.  A nice collared dress shirt goes a long way.

#2) Of course shower right before you go out, especially if it was a humid day, and use DEODORANT.  You can add a mild spray of cologne, but don't do the following (skip the DEO and spray cologne 50 times.  This can backfire as sometimes the sweat mixes with the overpowering cologne and a weird new smell is formed).  So keep it simple, shower, DEO, and a mild touch of cologne.

#3) Don't be stingy with the cash.  By the ladies a drink, smile and be friendly.

#4) Don't get drunk and become aggressive or possessive.  Once in a while guys buy a couple drinks for the ladies, then the girl, runs off to the bathroom, finds something better and 30 minutes later she's on the dance floor with a different bro.  Shit happens, if she was into you, she would have stuck around, let her go bro.  Be a gentleman at all times, you want her back in your hotel room for a great night, she has to trust you that you are not some pyschopath that's going to chop her up (because unfortunately it happened a couple years ago).  So be friendly, be a gentleman, make her feel comfortable with you.  Try to play with the illusion you actually met a girl at a bar and are trying to charm her and pick her up.  Don't be a dick and buy her a drink and grab her by the arm and tell her let's go to your hotel and fuck (Although sometimes in wan chai you will find a girl that does that to you!!1    Can you tell I love wan chai?)

Not necessary but:
#5) If you are really worried about being indian, but come from a different country you can lead with, "I'm American."  And if the bouncers are giving you shit, you can flash your USA Drivers License and show them you are not indian.


The above advice #1 - #4 applies to everyone doing the wan chai rounds, not just indians.  But it will definitely help your cause if you are indian, sorry if it's not politically correct, but just want to give you bros the the real facts.

WALKUPS
Also if you are doing walkups or checking out the 141 DB three things:
#1) Check their ad, sometimes it says, "Foreigners welcome"
#2) Check their ad, sometimes it says, "English" as a language.  Probably they are open to non chinese clientele if they put english on their ad.
#3) Call or message them.  Ask them if "Foreigners are OK?"

FINALLY, if all else fails, head to one of the big FS saunas, plenty posted about on this site, and as long as you are not an ass or anything, you should be able to get in NO PROBLEM.

[ Last edited by  mchk at 21-9-2018 19:46 ]

I'm not far off Andre the Giant's build, and roughly about as handsome. Walking through Fuji, JSL etc I'll often get no response from bells I ring, a couple of shouts of "NO!" hollered through the door, and once in every two or three visits, a door slammed in my face. But the offers far outweigh the refusals.  I'm sure you will find similar.

Only in the U.S. are laws created and tax dollars spent trying to enforce that everyone accept each other. The rest of the world doesn't try to legislate love so you will experience some rejection because of your race or color. People have preferences related to culture. Its just a fact of life and isn't going to change any time soon.  If you are going to do global banging it comes with the territory.

IMHO don't  try to overcome dislike with $$$ because you will end up spending a lot of $$$ to be with someone that still doesn't like you. Money won't change that. Move on until you find someone that likes you. Sex is always better anyway when the girl is into you.

And no point in being a baby and whining that someone doesn't like you.  It happens.

Or you can whine and probably be featured on a 1 hour special news report in the US ("OMG a girl didn't want my Indian dick".....film at 11).  LOL
Some have made front page news with "Someone looked at me at the mall in my full head to toe Burka",  followed up with in depth advice on how not to look.  OMG!!!  

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I'd say Indian men are also stereotyped as aggressive and disrespectful towards women. It doesn't help that a guy called Razaq Nadeem murdered three WGs a number of years ago and he was South Asian.

I don't mean to give the impression that $$$ will solve prejudice or a girl going from not liking you to loving you.  

I've personally witnessed guys in WC yelling huge numbers at a girl $5K, $6K, $7K!!! And the girl is like, "NO!" coz dude was being overly aggressive earlier.   Guys ready to throw any price, but the girl's pissed and it doesn't matter.   

Where I'm coming from is when you are in Wan Chai and a girl is undecided, offering her a drink and a being a gentlemen go a long way in your favor PLUS, even if she's not into you, she will go back to her friends and whisper about you and maybe one of her friends works out, PLUS other girls in the bar do notice who's buying drinks, and might jump in if they see an opportunity.

cultural friction is as old as time and will never go away. Tribalism is embedded in our genetic make up.

In the US we now actually have laws making it a crime to not like someone.

If you like someone, and they are of the opposite sex, and make a positive comment it can be considered harassment if they didn't like your comment.   Also a crime

"If you want to be a Supreme Court Justice, you better not fondle girls while both of you were drunk teenagers, "


How does testimony that starts like this end up in a Supreme Court Justice hearing?

"When I was 17 and drunk, don't remember where, when or who was there ……"  

Total Bullshit
Wasting time and US taxpayer $$$$$

In all honesty yes some girls in the walkups will reject you but others wwill try and pull you in so you can fuck them right away. I'm African American and I've been told no by girls in walkups so yes it will happen.  

I've never been rejected by the Thai mini brothels either. To be honest you should be okay. Even I'm the walkups you'll find plenty of very attractive women that will invite you right in.

As an Indian myself I can tell you there will be a fair share who will pre-judge you. They say that Indians are either too aggressive, always try bargaining and they tend to ask for multiple shots even though it has been explicitly said it will be one shot. However as previous posters have said, as long as you treat them sincerely the majority of them will be fine with you. I always get the comment "you are not like the other Indian men...you are kind and treat us well". Good luck.

My experiences in Thailand, the Philippines and Malaysia have been perfectly fine. I don't fall in the stereotype and make it pretty obvious. I make sure I take care of myself, look sharp, smell nice and don't act aggressively/cheap/rude. And I never had a problem.

Mind you, if your looking around and you see an ad online with "no foreigners" or "no Indians" I just pass and go on to the next. Same is with girls that prefer Chinese, Koreans, ect. It sucks if it's your perfect girl but just move on, there are more fish in the sea. And usually, with an IRL meeting, and with a smile and some time, you will get the chance to show you are different from the stereotype. After that you have a good conversational starter, bashing the stereotype Indians (and others). Just have fun with it.

Probably helps that I'm actually not from India (born in Holland, Indian/Suriname descent) and have a western upbringing. But know that first impressions are the most important. Show and act that you don't fall within the stereotype. And just move on from girls that are stuck on the stereotype. They probably have a reason to have it. I have heard some stories for different girls about their own experiences and I have seen the stereotype myself. You can't blame a girl that she goes for the, from her perspective, "safer" or easier option.

You’ll have to stand out and break stereotypes your people have created. Most WGs have no problem with customers due to race but almost everyone I’ve ever asked about a least favorite says Indian and it’s because of what the people above have said. Once a girl told me that they try to do “weird” shit they would never think about doing with a wife or GF lol. I told her she’d be out of a job if dudes were happy fucking only their wives or GF but it must be bad if she considered it weird.

Did she elaborate what weird stuff they did?
Did they hang her from the ceiling and fuck her in the air??