I know quite a few years ago bareback sex and creampies with WGs were a big no no for health and safety reasons.  However, I have recently seen people post they do it often.  Is it now something that is more acceptable?  No judgement, just curious if times have changed and it's safer or...?  For me, I'm personally still concerned for safety reasons and would be hesistant

Generally I don't go RAW but it's not infrequent that I do.

A few reasons:

If the girl is on PREP outcome will probably just be some antibiotics or a jab in the ass to fix things.

I do a fair few  overnights and it's very nice to wake in the night and just shove it in the girl while everyone is half asleep.

Personally my favourite finish is always CIM but a CIP is always a nice change and I've always been scared doing this with girlfriend because of baby fears.

Some times I can be having trouble getting/staying hard so the girl just grinds a bit then when hard it slips in and we begin. I've had some bad WG's who bj me hard then take forever to get the cd on and the moments almost lost.

I know people can pick to pieces what I'm sayiing but I'm just being honest. IMO a key thing to do is have regular test and if you intend to RAW often go on PREP. I've never had to bother about PEP but should.

Why are we even discussing this?   It boggles my mind.     I am not trying to judge anyone, but this is how people get sick and spread disease to others who are healthy.

Unless both the punter and the WG get tested and show each other a report, bareback should not be happening.  I knew of one WG in Prague who requires a test report before she allows bareback and creampies.     I am not sure her other requirements for that, but her charge is also higher.

I totally understand why this is a turn on for all of us.  I too would love to do it, and almost have, but the head on the top kicked in and said no fucking way that is ever going to happen.

Remember if you get a Thai girl pregnant also she is entitled to childcare.  And from reading other forums, Thai girls are fertile as hell.  I would never trust a Thai girl either that said she was on birth control.

When I was in Thailand in December there is one school teacher in Bangkok advertising bareback sex in her Line messages, I was dumbfounded. But I am sure many people take her up on it, because the price seems reasonable.  

PEP is not an alternative to a condom!  There are lots of articles on this.   

There was an article recently also from the US that many states are fighting a new strain of gonorrhoea that no anti-biotic can kill. Do you really want to take that risk?   I am not targeting this at anyone by the way.  And because of all of this, I never do BBBJ, but I do enjoy DATY which probably carries just as much risk....

I am not trying to criticize anyone's decision, or pass judgements and I know my words are often really tough and direct, but it is not my intention to blame anyone here who engages in this behavior, but I will urge you to think twice, three times and even four times before you slide your snake into a bare wet vjay.   I know it may sound like I am, but honestly I am not, it is up to you what you decide for yourself, but it would make me incredibly angry to learn that the girl I just fucked and ate out just got creamed from another guy and that guy might have had an STD.  It grosses me out entirely.  But anyway... Honestly we all take risks everyday punting as it is, and life is a risk itself, but, for me, as much as I would love to do it, it's just not something I think I can logically positively reason with to do.  

Ok, off my soapbox....   

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Anyone know more about this PREP thing? I've seen ads in my city's gay district talking about it. That said, bareback is still some dangerous gambling with your health. Don't you remember all the sex ed from junior school?

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As I mentioned in my original post, I saw folks posting about bareback sex and creampie more frequently, I was surprised and curious to see if things have changed during the last few years.  Looks like it is still just as risky and some are more willing to take the risk.

I've seen some WGs advertise they allow CIM and BBBJ and I why ended up regretting DFK with a WG.  I totally agree and would advise against it, furthermore I also wouldn't want to come into contact some dude's semen whist with a WG.

I really appreciate all the valuable info and feedback on here.  I didn't see much recently via search and the only way to find out more is to ask

Throughout the years, I talked to a few WG's who offered it (many do now). I asked if they test regularly. They all said they did. They would take a few days off if they were tested positive and took antibiotic. Of course, in between testing, they might have it and we would be rolling the dice. That is a risk we would be taking. But some really like BB so to each his own.

I heard from some girls it was more accepted during this pandemic as business was really bad. But personally I would play safe, and you never knew if those girls who declare taking test is true or not.

At certain Korean orgs in Los Angeles. BBFSCIP is the default.  They'll only put a condom on you if you ask.
https://rentry.org/la_bbfs

Creampie is one of the most sensational feelings for a man. Having a pulsating LS wrap around your throbbing LB as you pump every last drop into a super moist heaven. Then remain inside for a short while before slowly pulling out to reveal the gushing mess that ensues. It's a spectaculars sight for sure.

Anyway, leave the creampie and certain BB for your partners!! no way should a WG be entered BB.  CIM is probably acceptable, only just though.

I had a bareback incident with a Korean girl and it freaked me the fuck out.  She had a condom out and She was sucking me as I was laying down on the bed with my eyes closed enjoying itand she slipped me in and started riding me.  I opened my eyes and noticed the condom was in her mouth as she was riding.  I looked down at JR and realized I was going bare.  I freaked out.  She assured me she was clean.  And since I already took the dunk.  I went with it.  

The thing that freaked me out is this.  She never upcharged or asked for more money for the bareback.  She didn't even ask for permission.  She just did it and her attitude was extra happy after the deed.  Yeah nice bonus if you're into bareback.  But what was her intent?  Was it some baby trap?  Hoping to get knocked up and taken care of for the rest of her life?  Extort you for money/child support?  Or a green card in some cases?

I have an SO, and I was worried that I would catch something and give it to her.  Sneaking around to get tested isn't fun either.

In short, I came out clean and just never saw this girl again in case I get extorted somehow.  But that whole ordeal fucked me up mentally for months being worried about this or that.  So for the sakes of my mental well being.  I would avoid it.  Yeah it felt great to try it with someone other than your SO.  But is the short amount of "fun" worth the months of being worried?

What a stressful situation. I opt for the no FS experiences for this reason, combined with mitigating the risk of STD. I also make a personal choice to not punt immediately after I’ve had and alcohol. In the heat of the moment, who knows what may happen.

To each their own. While I respect a providers decision to offer bbfs, “sneaking” it in without a condom is just bad form. If there was an agent, I may even let them know casually after the episode. I think you were smart to avoid her in the future.

Two other possible explanations of her behavior:

1. She wants you raw so you cum quicker. Less wear and tear on her body (except for std risk). I had a provider tell me that condoms and the longer lasting cocks inside of them rip the shit out of her. She prefers pse.

2. She wants you to come back and leave a good review. Might backfire but if you publicize her behavior that only will increase her business. In the Ca bay area, it's definitely true that pse is now king (or queen).

Most of the agent have some girls offering it.
Usually the extra is small, like 300-500.
You even have an agent called in Chinese creampie which only offer girls that you can fuck bareback.
And some other agents have girls which are the same price covered and not covered

When we see the number of girls available with this service, I guess there are more demands and like another person in the post mentioned, clients usually cum faster....

Yes this hobby has risks but now you have to really do your research on every girl that comes by.

The org I go to (GFEI) is generally GFE and they will say if the girl is PSE but not always, and sometimes you find out they used to be PSE or the most infamous one is a girl everyone knew was PSE but I didn't, during one of the sesh she just stuck it in and I was like hun she must have slid on the bag without me knowing. Did it feel good? hell ya. But I couldn't sleep for a month worrying about the risks. People are nuts when it comes to BB and never think it through.

It could be true.  Especially the first part.  As for the second part.  I'm not sure.  It wasn't in HK.  It was in North America, in a city where bareback is seen as dangerous and puts someone on a no fly zone.  It could've gotten her kicked out of her agency/never working in that city again.  

Talks about bareback on forums is banned, agencies or people who advertises it gets black listed, etc.  It was definitely NOT a casual thing like it seems to be here.  Hence why I was more freaked out.

I'm sure it still happens, but it's some hush hush under the table private discussion to drive up the price sorta deal over there.  As I'm sure there are guys willing to pay a premium for that service.

I just don't think the mental headache of uncertainty is worth the minutes of fun going bareback has to offer.

Maybe it's best to keep it with a spouse or a fwb.  Both get tested, show each other the paperwork and go fuck like bunnies.  Sticking it in a random working girl who gets how many stranger dicks a day?  And taking "her" word for it?  Yeah, she most likely  gets tested regularly.  Not sure about the the twenty other joe blows earlier that day.  And imagine the residual juices.  Some guy cums in her cunt five minutes before you stick your dick in rubbing your cock against his left over load.  Yuck.  No offense to homos, but some stuff is only for porn.  Like when two dudes are dping some girl and their dicks and balls are rubbing against each other?  Puke fetishes?  Piss fetishes?  Anal even?  Yeah.  It gets you a nice hard on when you're watching it on a screen.  But in real life?  Probably a boner killer.

I've had a girl suck me too deep and she ended up puking on my cock.  That shit gets me rock hard watching it in a video.  In real life tho?  With the smell and mess?  Boner killer.  Anal?  Yeah, Fucken sweet to look at and it generally feels tight.  Until you get a nasty burrito smell and end up with poop on your dick.  And now you got some kinda funk you can't wash off.  
I'm always curious about a piss fetish.  I'll like to try it just to see what it's like. But chances are, the smell and the fact that somehow, you'll end up with your own piss rubbing all over your own body later is most likely a boner killer.

I guess what I am trying to say is that some stuff is fun to watch.  Not sure if it works out in real life.  Imagine a bukkake with 20 other dudes.  Fat, hairy, sweaty and breathing hard, jerking off waiting their turn.  Good luck keeping your dick hard.  Nevermind cumming.  And if you do get a chance to cum.  You also get a chance of some other blokes load being blown/slung on you.  Lol.  Sometimes it's just best to keep fantasies in the fantasy world.

actually bare back talk is NOT allowed in this forum ... as per forum rules
it's just that the mods are not enforcing these rules

"It wasn't in HK.  It was in North America, in a city where bareback is seen as dangerous and puts someone on a no fly zone.  It could've gotten her kicked out of her agency/never working in that city again.  "

Ok so this explains it.  There are a large number of south koreans that go to to the USA for sex work and they travel under some other visa like a tourist visa or student visa.

Bareback is more accepted in South Korea so it happens when these girls go to the USA and don't know any better.

https://s-books.com/sb/zh-TW/advertisement/177014?referral=type

Wow clearly got creampied for the video.... Maybe by her agent haha. Anyone for a 69? Haha

Doubt it’s actually the girl behind the door. Looks like the girl has a filter on her face.

Won’t be surprised if there’s actual sex tape out there.

Bareback talk being outlawed is silly. More data the better, that way those who don't prefer BB providers can abstain from RAs that provide BB