Just saw a hilarious newbie report where he put eight fingers into a girl's vagina and he didn't have an extra hand, or digits, to take a photo. This got me thinking: why do we like to give WGs FIV? An obvious answer is to give her pleasure, as we all love to see a girl cum. But is it really for altruistic reasons or do we do that to seek reassurance in bed? In other words, is our orgasm better if we make a woman cum?

I have dated many women and I would say most, if not 100%, fake their orgasm in order to get it over with and go back to sleep. Scientists argued that female orgasm is so rare because it serves no evolutionary purpose. I think modern society has drummed up the myth of orgasm so much that we now expect orgasm, both male and female, every single time we have sex.

But I digress. In the realm of paid sex, men compensate the expectation to deliver orgasm by paying the women. In this scenario, does female orgasm even matter? We know it does, as reports on this forum, including my own, are filled with descriptions of WG's orgasm, and WGs tend to charge more for cunnilingus. Is servicing women such a fundamental part of male sexual fantasy that it is expected even in the paradigm of paid sex? And if I need to worry about whether I managed to make a WG cum, where can I find guilt-free, pressure-free sex?

Thoughts, anyone?

I would say most guys who try do it because they get satisfaction from seeing the WG orgasm. It feeds the ego to "know" they made a WG cum, or perhaps it helps enhance the gfe they're looking for.

With a normal partner, I definitely aim for her to orgasm, but it doesn't give me any pleasure per se. I just do it not to be selfish.

For WGs, I don't bother with daty or helping her cum. My sole goal is my own release. Occasionally I will do fiv, but that's usually because I'm trying to get her wet enough so we don't have to use lube.

If you were ever on the UK punting forums there were a small group of men who would bring hitachi magic wands to give the WG a lot of orgasms.

Their motivations were that if they gave the WG a good time then the WG would be far more motivated and relaxed to give it back rather than lay there and take it.

UK punting btw service is often a lot better anyway BUT because you always pay first it can vary enormously.

I've had a lot where the woman lies there and looks at her watch every now and again.

In the same way we watch porn, making a woman orgasm adds to our own pleasure. And if you can orgasm together, even better.

I think her orgasm does matter.  At least try.  Some WG will have nothing to do with it.  They don't care to orgasm.  If anything, it wears them out and gets them exhausted for the rest of the day.  But any sort of connection helps, and if she can get into it and if can somehow make her cum, the connection is quite different... Mutual pleasure heightens the entire session and can be a very memorable experience.  This requires cooperation on her part, and some level of skill on the guy's part.

I am exactly on the line of Kennichi, a very old (10Y x N) consistent personal habit.

Enjoying Happy Hour with 2 shots of BY cocktail for 1 full DATY on her while watching her face was very nice.
That beats drinking Blow Jobs at Joe Bananas. Unlikely to forget that moment.

That said, at my age, there is a limit to the (non-DATY, more like CG) exercise because if playing too long (or AC too hot or ...),
then the rest may be less glamorous...but my regulars know me very well so it's never a problem.
With new ones, that may turn into a disaster.

Keeping in mind what their day ahead will be, I can generally see them at 11am or ...12pm (for Sleeping Bunny), and it is never for only 30mn.

As the trigger for this post I'll explain my line of thinking and personal kinks.

Generally I'm not interested in pleasuring the working girl unless she indicated somehow that she likes or wants something and then I think it could be a more enjoyable experience for us both. I think in most cases they don't want to be pleasured because it makes there job easier as they don't need to pretend they are enjoying themselves and can conserve energy. I'm not into hurting the girls at all either though.

I like to finger the girls though because it brings me pleasure. While we DFK for me it's a waste if a few fingers aren't exploring their pussy letting my cock know what's in store. And slippling  a linger or 2 into a tight warm ass can be even better and watching the girls reaction with my tongue pushing down her throat as I do really turns me on. Every girl has some reaction to anal fingering.

I'm also not a fan of the quickie and like a long session so usually have plenty of foreplay time and fingering is part of the foreplay process for me. Sometimes I like to get a BBBJ but usually there comes a time when I swing the girls around into 69 to check her out more closely before fucking. This is where I spread her pussy and do some fingering as foreplay mostly for me but usually the girl enjoys it.

With new in my noobie review she loved being fingered while she blew me. One funny thing I didn't mention is in my first session I'd started to finger her but she sort of cringed. I asked if she didn't like and she said my nail was sharp. I turned up for the overnight and after our shower she got out her nail file and filed my nails then said now i can finger her hard.

I started with 1 finger then worked up to 2 then slipped in 2 more and she was basically dripping at this point. After 2 from each hand  you can open the pussy and look right inside when in the 69 position and spit or whatever turns you on. Only on my last visit I got 8 fingers because after girls spread that wide you're not going to feel much fucking her. I'd just never seen a pussy gape that wide and it made me horny basically like being in my own porn where you think my god look at what this girl is doing.

I also like to anal finger the girls don't know how other guys feel about this but it gets me off. To me nothing like fucking a girl's pussy and feeling your cock with a finger up their ass. Also if you do make a girl cum the feeling of their ass going crazy on my finger is a turn on. But even just being in 2 holes at once turns me on.

edit -  Just thought I'd add making a WG cum for me has nothing to do about ego. I don't care less about trying to impress a WG but treat them nice and with respect because they are people with lives doing a  difficult job.

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Does her O matter? To me, yes. A lot of my "pleasure" from this game comes from seeing the girl enjoy it as much, if not more, than me. I get it that they may fake enjoyment although I think you usually have an idea if it's genuine. That's why I try to get a decent connection first and the "amateurs" or beginners are usually best because it is less of a transaction for them and they get a kick (maybe a surprise) out of their punter being considerate. In the last 2 weeks I have tried 2 new girls. Although obviously pros, they were much less transactional than some girls can be. There was a connection and I think (although you can never know for sure) that they both had multiple orgasms. The reason I think I "know" is because they both took charge of things after we started and they realised they were enjoying it, making me do what they wanted.  They later confirmed this over Whatsapp without being prompted. Now that, for me, was a real turn on and why I will go back for more from them.

[ Last edited by  dienw at 22-9-2022 16:36 ]

Thank you all for your fantastic input. I think we all agree that giving a woman, WG or not, orgasm is an extremely pleasurable experience. Sex is a beautiful thing. However, I think what intrigues me is whether the WG wants it. Most punters go for a punt because he is horny, but there is no telling whether the WG is in the same mood when she sees you. If she doesn't want it, your insistence on getting her off might be annoying to her. If her orgasm is expected as a part of the customer experience, she may end up pretending, which is a major turn off for me. As I mentioned in my original post, all the women in my life have faked their orgasm to get away from having sex with me. I do not want to pay to see another woman fake.

In fact, I am not even sure I agree giving a WG orgasm will motivate her to give us a better service. In my experience, good manners, repeated visits and generous tips motivate a WG far more than the ability to make her cum. I think (but I maybe wrong) women do not see orgasm as important as men do. They tend to value emotional stability far more than sexual satisfaction.

While many of you will disagree, I truly believe female is the stronger sex. A woman may or may not want you. She may or may not have cum. There is no way of telling. Meanwhile, men's sexual responses are completely transparent. If female orgasm is important even in the domain of paid sex, where can men find a place when we can enjoy sex free from anxiety over performance, expectation and doubts?

Agree that good manners and tips are most important. I don't think I have ever "forced" anyone to have an orgasm and it's not a pre-condition of me punting with any girl. If she doesn't want to, then she doesn't have to. If it happens, then great - that's what I want. If not, fair enough, no big deal. In fact, I don't know whether probably my favourite girl of all time, who I have visited dozens of times over the last few years, has ever had an orgasm. She hasn't faked anything. I do know though that every session we have is exhilaratingly good and it's because we are both just enjoying each other. I may be kidding myself, I know, but I doubt very much that she isn't enjoying it too, and she's getting paid for it. Sounds like a good deal once you get past the stigma of being a prostitute.

[ Last edited by  dienw at 22-9-2022 18:29 ]

Why it is important to make the girl orgasm



see this link, about 1:00 in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVNEp6hZE3g

an old clip, from 1988 or so. still true


Keep on mongering

First I miss the good old days comedy. Everyone can tell a joke and everyone can take the joke. Fuck those woke culture shit.

Second, back to topic - Yes and no. Pleasuring a girl is for my own enjoyment and amusement. You know good a perfectly shaved pussy with fresh juice tastes?! If the WG cums, great, if she doesn't, my turn.

There are signs of women having orgasms. I discovered it on a WG that I visited for years. One day her canal gripped my cock a lot harder with rhythmic pulses, and it's more enjoyable to finish it that way.

While others may differ, I actually find pleasure in seeing a women have an orgasm. With that being said, solo masturbation by a woman during a session (with or without toys) does not seem to appear much in our forum reviews. In my experience, this was more common in the US compared to Asia. Not sure why. I would love to find a HK-based provider who enjoys using toys on herself.

It absolutely helps me get off, and I know that she's probably doing it so I finish early, but it really doesn't hurt.

If we are gonna get down to the evolutionary basis for it, and throw logic into this, there is no reason for us to even go because we know we aren't going to leave poorer.

We all know the waitresses who flirt with the patrons get better tips, and we all know they don't care about how our food was.

There is usually a mental and power aspect to sex for most dudes. If you can make a girl cum, it gives you a sense accomplishment and helps reaffirm that you might actually be good at sex. Seeing and feeling her pleasure definitely increases my own.

Whether or not if you can actually make a WG cum is a different question. Most WGs see multiple mongers/punters a day several days a week. Most of them are probably oversexed and need a long break or something more intense to get them off. I doubt girls are having multiple orgasms in each session with every monger, but they sure do know how to play the part.