Subject: Cracker & backpage are really down this time
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Cracker & backpage are really down this time

Previously I couldn't get through because tha particular vpn gateway I was using was blocking them.

This time Europol and Us agencies including the FBI are listed as seizing the sites.

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nyctohkvacation   15-4-2018 00:48  Acceptance  +5   Ter is down also
aurufc   10-4-2018 15:36  Acceptance  +10   they really do aim to spoil the fun
JJJ37   8-4-2018 07:35  Acceptance  +8   Punting in US is risky
johnnygleet   7-4-2018 21:59  Acceptance  +1   eccie.net seems to be shut down also.
batman108   7-4-2018 12:08  Acceptance  +2   So sad and true
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Found this today while on the CNBC website.


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aurufc   10-4-2018 15:37  Acceptance  +10   I blame the new USA forum section lol!!!
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That may have worked a few years ago but with the proliferation of social apps such as WeChat and Switter, things will just decentralize.   US sites such as Eccie.net are sweating though, wondering if they'll be next.
  In the US this will just push more business to the AMPS.
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Craigslist have stripped any pages that would allow any one to post ads for sexual services/massages. Even the legit therapeutic section has disappeared in CL. And I having difficulty getting on to some sites. It is tough for me because I do not save any numbers on my phones.

Plus I read somewhere that writing reports on the USA websites would be considered equivalent of selling service. The writer therefore can get in trouble with LE. aiyah.


Then there is this news article :

https://nypost.com/2018/04/03/nypd-sends-warning-texts-to-creeps-looking-for-prostitutes/

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NYPD sends warning texts to creeps looking for prostitutes

By Larry Celona

April 3, 2018 | 8:30pm

Worst. Sext. Ever.

The NYPD is on a mission to shame the creeps who browse through sleezy prostitution websites — by planting fake ads and sending warning texts to those looking to get their rocks off, The Post has learned.

“The NYPD sent you this message because you responded to an online ad for prostitution. Offering to pay or paying someone for sexual conduct is a crime and punishable by incarceration up to 7 years,” the messages read.

“Advertisements are posted by the NYPD and you won’t know which ads are from us. People who show up in response to our ads are likely to get arrested,” they continue.

Police have posted phony listings on sites like Backpage.com for years, but always waited until the would-be john showed up and then arrested him.

But while a single ad typically leads up to a dozen men to actually show up in person, another 25 to 75 guys call but either don’t book a “date” or never arrive, sources say.

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/prostitution-text.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1

The ones who don’t seal the deal get the warnings, which the NYPD’s human trafficking team began sending out in February.

They are designed to scare them away from soliciting any more sex workers.

Serial buyers are likely lost causes, but those with a lot to lose might think twice about the prospect of calling their boss or wife to say they were just busted trying to book a hooker, sources say.

“There’s nothing you can do about the regulars who do this all the time,” a source told The Post.

“But hopefully it will scare people trying it for the first time, or legitimate people who have jobs or families who don’t want to get arrested.”

The stings take place one to two times a week, across all five boroughs, sources say.

The ads are designed to be as realistic as possible — with prices matched to the going rate, generally between $100 and $300 — and are posted once police are set up in a hotel room.

Female officers answer the calls — although they’re not the women pictured in the ads — and pose as prostitutes, trying to entice the men who phone to show up in person, according to sources.

Those who show up expecting to get lucky are arrested, and those who don’t later receive the warning that they got really lucky.

The initiative is part of the NYPD’s larger effort to bust more johns and pimps, and fewer prostitutes, who are often victims themselves, sources said.

“A lot of these girls are being forced or coerced to work as prostitutes — it is human trafficking,” a source said.

Additional reporting by Ruth Brown

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stinkyfeet   7-4-2018 23:51  Acceptance  +8   Can't say I feel all warm and cozy for NYc. Hope that fukn city implodes
johnnygleet   7-4-2018 21:49  Acceptance  +1   I've seen a few ads in the Resume section of CL.
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Well I can't access to the cracker hk site now, but Craigslist seems fine

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johnnygleet   8-4-2018 01:40  Acceptance  +1   You can access CL but personals and therapeutic services have been removed.
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Reply #4 doghead's post

seems like it's time to retire for now, reached out to someone from wechat today from flushingincall for Manhattan. lady told me to facetime her to feel safe, guess they getting the pressure too. but i won't facetime, shit is way too personal. rather pass
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Now often to cityoflove, massagerepublic, escorts.hk and international tour in Scarlet Blue...
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There is a new website that is an alternative to backpage.com.

It is called bedpage.com. It is so new, there are only a few listings, but it would soon grow. I wonder where its server is...perhaps it was set up by the Russians.


If you can read Chinese, there still exists other Chinese websites besides the better-known Flushingincall.com

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jeffzeke   10-4-2018 12:37  Acceptance  +10   interesting
Randal   10-4-2018 10:10  Acceptance  +3   Surprisingly, or even suspiciously similar to Cracker/Backpage...
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blast77   10-4-2018 08:00  Acceptance  +7   Good infos
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Found this site for Australian punters.

kissyoubaby.com

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Lot of the sites that host US information have been shutting down.  One of them is usasexguide.  I dunno how many of you guys use it but do any of you guys know of any other alternative websites?

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Reply #10 tonkachi's post

I think it's more the case of websites where the server is based in the USA that are closing down? I could be wrong.

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jeffzeke   14-4-2018 13:01  Acceptance  +10   is this forum US based?!
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Reply #11 obe's post

better watch out ... I understand this site is based in the US

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doghead   14-4-2018 13:16  Acceptance  +3   Was that in reaction to when this site was shutdown a few years ago? Moved out of HK away from HK LE?
jeffzeke   14-4-2018 12:11  Acceptance  +10   Not sure if this is a joke or is this true?!
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Reply #2 obe's post

Locnto is a good option in the absence of Backpage and Cracker!!!!
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Does anyone know if the cracker sites in rest of world is affected? ie Japan cracker? I had some good punts there. Luckily I still have her wechat. So sad if they are all gone.

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Things are strict in english speaking countries

In Europe the things are more generous and legal in some countries. But in the US it is totally different- a society ruled by feminism and puritanism. This also serves geopolitical purposes-to control the way other countries rule their societies and people. In some US states, even calling a WG by phone is sufficient for a conviction.The 411 referral thing can be turned into a public sex criminal list(only two countries have them in operation-a superpower and its protectorate) in a matter of keystrokes while US based escorts require them(even the punter's job related evidence material and face photo). Once things go so far, it is not worth. Japan(de facto decriminalised-no penalties laid out in 1958 law) and Germany (legalised) are much more lenient as they don't have direct US influence in their societies .Using other services will only increase surveillance. 588 in its final days had about 200 CCTVs connected to the centralized police camera network.(the last 2 shops closed in this  year's lunar new year) SNS services like Kakao and Line aren't safe either as they were reported to be under state surveillance during investigation of scandals. Now some countries are gonna take away cash and cryptocurrency isn't anonymous either. US citizens have the option of LEGAL things in Nevada counties with small population anyway and thus should go there. In at least one country, a man is guilty of sex crime with the burden of proof upon him if he has sex with a woman and requires written consent(which the court may or may not accept) and the majority of legal/diplomatic professionals are women. This thing may be applied by the court to punting as well. WGs are considered victims of sexual violence by men these days, in the same context as workers are considered exploited by capitalists(the same ideology> The so-called metoo thing makes things even more harder as a geopolitical push is behind that.
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Reply #4 doghead's post

In addition, prostitution is considered sexual slavery/exploitation (by man) under US foreign policy. The US does not recognize the existence of voluntary things; once a man gives money to a WG, it is exploitaion as defined normatively, while a German would place arguments. If you pay money to a woman, you are the exploiter and offender and the woman is a victim. The US is not a society of reasons and argument unlike continental Europe; it is a society of beliefs and propositions, that is, things are as they are stipulated and not subject to discussions or logical contesting. The US does not provide aids to countries that legalise prostitution(confirmed by a US official wrt to HIV assistance foreign aid program to Brazil). FMS sales of military weapons(example: jet fighters) constitutes aid to the buying country(policy to prevent leak of sensitive technology). Germany has no US made jet fighters in its current inventory. Visa restrictions, economy sanctions and tariffs and, most importantly, export licensing for technology goods are other means to enforce things to others. Koreans were allowed to travel to US by ESTA only after Korea enacted and strongly enforced its controversial anti-prostitution laws which work similar to Nordic laws(this was mentioned by the country's national intelligence service) and have in fact harmed other countries(we all know how).
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Reply #14 Pinkpuffy69's post

Wechat is censored, so are Kakao and Line.There are means such as escrow keys ,MITM and others to enable a state system to tap on even encrypted communication.A Korean  teacher was put into jail for merely using Gmail.

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Reply #8 doghead's post

Wow, bedpage.com is "under maintenance". I guess they caught the attention from the LE after being mentioned in a news article about how new websites are popping up to replace backpage.

There are other new sites (or previously less popular sites) that exist and I guess will continue to operate until they are mentioned in mainstream press and taken down.

Some of these websites are  : ADlist24.com, cityxguide.com. backpage24.com. As you review these sites, you will notice that there listings are sparse as many providers do not know about them as well as these sites do not keep up the listing for too long (I guess to minimize their legal risks?).

Enjoy them if you can.

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Eccie will be back online soon according to their website.   

https://www.eccie.net/

not sure if we need to sign up for a new account or not yet..   Let's see what happens.

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Reply #10 tonkachi's post

usasexguide has returned as www.usasexguide.nl   

There is an opening message how they moved/sold site to someone in the Netherlands.

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