Subject: what donation do you give to DH?
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what donation do you give to DH?

So standard is 500. my understanding.

But one DH I slept with, which I keep chatting, was winging saying "I'm a cheap girl" and I asked why... she said "pro girls at Escape charge you how much?" to which I answered "1k or 1.5k"... then she say "see u only pay me 500"

so I said, "well some mongkok brothel charge 380"... then she goes "well u fuck me 2 times for 500 so that's 250 a pop" which I argued back "mongkok is 45min I get multiple shot too".... and we left it at that.

she kept saying how she like westerner more cuz they are "generous"... OK I'm getting a little annoyed sounds like she wants more from me....

maybe it's time to cut her loose. but I thought 500 for a 1-2 hour session on Sunday was well within accepted zone... I told her some gweilous would kiss her grab her for hours at 109 with no sex at the end, I told her I come to find u straight to point, 2 hour later u can do ur further business.

any comment? am I too lowly paying her?

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devilgodspeed   14-1-2014 13:42  Acceptance  +1   Basically, its enough and shouldnt be too much.
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who is this DH? Where did you find her? As long as you guys already agreed in the beginning for exchanging what kind of service with how much money she could get. I think she cannot complain at the end.

For me myself, I prefer to pay the girl 70% out of her regular rate when she works at her place. For example KTV WG would get 1250 for LT. If I make agreement with her outside KTV, Iwould give her 1000, if we have chemistry quite well. I do not know either if this formula works fine for others.

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Reply #2 maonana's post

Yeah, $500 for short-time is a decent donation for a DH.  But every gal is different and ultimately sets her own rates. It seems this one actively hunts for punters  so will increase her rates if she's always in demand on Sundays.

Just make an agreement and stick to it.
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Reply #1 carfield's post

I remember your post from way back about having no luck with DH - glad the advice wander and co. gave paid off.
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... 5622&highlight=

About the money, if you clearly state price, then she can't really renegotiate after agreeing. $500 is ok generally speaking. Anyway, the cost is more than $500, assuming you buy drinks and book a room at a love motel. It all adds up.  But as said, she can't renegotiate after the deed.
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Reply #1 carfield's post

Do as a gentleman should, and don't argue.  

If she wants 500 give her 500 and avoid her in future if you think it's too much.  Same as we do for a walkup who demands a tip.
You're the buyer.  But more importantly you're a gentleman and she's a lady.  

Of course if she asks an unreasonable price after the deed, you can stick to your guns, insist she must negotiate up front, and walk away.  But you wouldn't stoop so low as to avoid giving her anything would you?  Even if you do, no debate or explanation is necessary, just "this is what we agreed, and I'm doing what I agreed to do".




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Reply #1 carfield's post

I normally give a $500 donation. Like you I received a comment some time back that I was getting away cheap since "market price for pussy" was 1-1.5K. Then I told her about 141 and that market price was $400 and that was using the girls room. The second time she mentioned this, I used the browser on the phone and showed her all the ads on 141 and the prices and after that subject not brought up again.

I don't see her that often since Sunday is family day and have a hard time getting away.
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thanks all for reassurance. i met her few times when mrs was away half year ago and i kept in touch. she is indo 24yr old from 109 frequently there...

i told her wife going away as hint of my interest to fek her. but she brought this up. wonder if i shud just leave her alone for someone who appreciates my 500

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dooper   15-1-2014 06:34  Acceptance  +2   You answered your own question.
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Goes to 109 frequently and wants to get paid more... Well she may have received a pro contract for the season....   you sure she didn't turn pro in the meantime?

I would cut her loose, if its start like this, you will have only problems after that.
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Reply #8 Frenchexpat's post

Seems to me she's got this WG gig established in her brain and now has figured "if I'm gonna do it, better do it right!". Maximize her profits.

She's pressing for more for two reasons, she believes she can get more and she wants to get more. If you feel she is not worth more than tell her $500 is all you will pay - take it or leave it. (though be gentler then that). If she IS worth more to you, than up her donation to a level you are comfortable with.

There is no hard price - just a negotiation based around the supply and demand of difficult-to-quantify benefits.  But make no mistake -- she IS a WG now. Parttime, yes, but she's accepted the role inher mind and is now choosing to make the best of it.
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Since Lunar holidays are coming up then offer her the regular donation and a Lucky Red Envelope.  And in the future if you really like her then say you are giving her say an extra $100-$200 for "cab fare".  Win win situation.




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Post at 23-1-2014 16:32  Profile P.M. 
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what donation do you give to DH?

I normally donate my cum!
Obe

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vinny5443   23-1-2014 20:56  Acceptance  +4   it could actually be worth a lot more!
cruman999   23-1-2014 17:24  Acceptance  +4   That would not be worth much, there must be buckets of the stuff in Shekou
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Reply #11 obe's post

cruman999   23-1-2014 17:24   Acceptance   +4   That would not be worth much, there must be buckets of the stuff in Shekou

And you thought that was rain puddles you were walking in!

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I guess I'm the easy touch white boy here.  I'm usually in for $1K for a ST.  I have found that the DH quality at $500 is not what I'm normally looking for.  That doesn't mean that bargains can't be found, but I know what I pay elsewhere, and $1K for any DH I've had is still a bargain.

On the other hand, I'll seldom break $1500 for a LT, but I've done it so there you go.

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it depends on the DH really. If you live in HK and are single, and if they see an opportunity for a relationship then they will be less likely to ask for money. But the regulatory drinks and meal will still apply. Also the older you are the more money they will ask!

I know some girls who gets 2-3K with older guys and can get 2-3 guys in the same day (pretty nice considering their crappy salary)!

In general if I don't want to hear from the girl I give her money after the session.

Bare in mind that if you've been paying them drinks in Players/109 or New Makati they probably make quite a bit of money with the vouchers!
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Indonesian DH's always tell their friends they get 2k - Strange that they never say 1.5K or 2.5k. Usually 500 is fine for a D/H - Most will accept the offer.
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Originally posted by chantik at 30-1-2014 02:03
Indonesian DH's always tell their friends they get 2k - Strange that they never say 1.5K or 2.5k. Usually 500 is fine for a D/H - Most will accept the offer.

yes most of them BS a lot on that. I saw some of the ugliest saying they get 2k each time. What s the point when you can get the most beautiful hooker for that price.

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Thai-delight   1-2-2014 12:02  Acceptance  +1   I have seen that too
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by Pluplu at 1/30/14 08:23 PM
yes most of them BS a lot on that. I saw some of the ugliest saying they get 2k each time. What s the point when you can get the most beautiful hooker for that price.

We don't need to be rude here. Beauty is subjective and in the eye of the beholder.

If a girl tells her friends that she received 2K from you even though she didn't then what difference does it make to you? The girl appears better in front of her friends and you appear more generous.

If the girls all know that nobody receives 2K but they still BS about it, then again it makes no difference to you. If you see a different girl who happens to be within girl #1's group of friends then she'll already know the truth of things and won't be bugging you for 2K.

If however see a girl who doesn't know the game and hears that you gave girl #1 2K, then perhaps in this scenario would this new girl ask for 2K from you ask well.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by Freelancer at 31-1-2014 23:56


We don't need to be rude here. Beauty is subjective and in the eye of the beholder.

If a girl tells her friends that she received 2K from you even though she didn't then what difference does it mak ...

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not being rude. Just that I hear that a lot. I never question them either. Most girls in general are fine with drinks and food and some Taxi money too. But I do know some guys will give them 2K, once they get that they never have sex without that amount. I guess that's the law of the market.
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Couple of things - You never get the most beautiful hooker for $500 - It doesn't happen.

The DH who allegedly gets 2k - and i stress DH - May get lucky once or twice a year - Then they settle for 500.
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Post at 4-2-2014 21:24  Profile P.M. 
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bringing an old topic back... so I am coming to terms "donation" is really really up to the girl... I got close to another DH a non WG or not someone who have sex for money (had to crack her)... anyways slept with her but she never asked for money.   I mean I feel bad... they just don't seem to expect it. in fact I felt from the conversation, if I offered her money she would feel offended saying "I'm not a prostitute"..... Other day she asked if I could recharge her octopus with 50 buck.... how cute is this request.... I put 200 dollar and she was very very grateful...
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