I will be visiting HK next month for the first time. I do not speak any form of Chinese. I'd like to bring a girl back to my hotel for the the night at a reasonable price.

What is the best way to do that? I know many of the girls don't speak enlgish but do they have someone who can translate for them to negotiate with?
Would it be easier to look up girl on 141 or walk-up?
It seams that some of the pretties girls I see on hear don't speak english
Also, how accurate are the pictures, any photoshop....it almost looks to good to be true?

Any help is greatly appreciated....there are so many places in Hong Kong to go that its hard to make a choice as to where is the best place to stay (hotel)?

Easy as if you are into the bar scene 95% of the girls give you the choice of either ST or LT. Even if this is not your scene check out Neptune 3 as the mamasan will ask you is you want a girl to sit with you and she will speak english as well.
What do you call a reasonable price? if you want budget or even free the New Makati is your best bet but you have to find the girl yourself but believe me this is not hard in here. The classier ladies are at Escape but this will not fit the "reasonable price"
My preference is Neptune 3 which fits into the middle ground.

sorry, you poted this question in the reports section, will move this thread to Q&A but have to remove the Ks you earned while posting in the wrong section

Please read the Forum Guidelines section for answers to almost everything you may want to ask ... there are many Hotel girls that will come to your hotel after you negotiate the price with her agent.

sorry about that. I understand. I will read the Q&A section. I"m not sure what Ks are but I will do some more reading. Thank you again for the info and direction. I hope to be a contributing member.

Very easy to get a girl for overnight, but it may take a couple of tries. Some of the girls have real boyfriends and won't do LT because they are afraid of missing a call the next day.

If you are into the chick make sure she knows very early that you want LT. Buy her a few drinks and then get going to your hotel. Don't get waisted or get her too drunk where she is puking which will just ruin your night. Also make sure she knows early because many girls still go to the bar during their period trying to get drinks and meet guys that will call them next week when they are done with the flow

A great way to sweeten the deal is offering lunch or dinner the next day if you are really into her.

If you want LT stick with the girls in the bars. Hit Wanchi early around 9:30 and be patient. If its a Sunday wait until 10:30 to 11:00 to decrease the chances of pairing up with a DH that won't be able to do LT.

Price LT for a Filipina will be 1.5 to 2.0. This should get you a solid 8-9 looker. Again watch the alcohol. They will want drinks for commission, but too many and she will go back with you but pass out. That sucks!  You can get Indo's for cheaper but they have to be a 9 or 10 for me. They can have amazing bodies but then kill it with bad teeth or nasty feet. Lol. Sorry I like girls that take care of their hands and feet.

Cruman and slimshams...thank you for the suggestions! I plan on visiting both Neptune 3 and escape in wanchai based on your guys advice! I hope to spend hopefully no more than around $200 USD. Is that reasonable? I'd also like a clasier/prettier looking girl (any advice?).

Sounds like i can get a solid looker for 200-250usd? based on currency conversion, correct? sounds like within my means.

I agree with slimshanks, they have to be 8-10 for me, but preferably 9,10 if possible....willing to settle for 8 if i can find what I want. Its funny you say that, because I to like nice teeth...it really can be a deal breaker for me

So here is my tentative plan Friday Night:

Arrive to Wanchai at 9pm and get familiar with the area.
Locate Neptune 3 and Escape and a few other locations based on further research from this forum. They seem to all be be within walking distance, correct?
930pm, narrow down the potential locations i want to look for a girl down to 2 locations
10pm, have a beer or 2 and wait and see what the scene is like as it may be to early to decide
1030-1130, not sure how long it will take me to finalize the decision and negotiation with mamasan
have a few drinks with girl
12pm, Walk out of bar with girl and catch a taxi back to hotel
have fun
pay her in the morning
last but not least, deliver report of how the night went


What you guys think?

I've tried reading through as much of the Q&A as possible and got most of my questions answered, but I still have a few questions:
what is DH? I did not find it in Acronym Glossary.
how long can i expect girl to be with me, and if i offer lunch, what time is typical for lunch...i don't want to be surprised, 9am? 12pm?
will girls actually drink that much to the point where they might get waisted or puke?
on DB i dont understand what 141 walk-up is as opposed to hotel walk-in, there seems to be a lot of 9 and 10 on there, can I just make an arrangement with them or is it hard or not suggested?

Thank you for the great feedback and response!

Just a couple of things, Escape does not kick off till 11pm but if you are looking for a 9/10 this is probably your best bet.

All the bars are within 500m of each other I always do the circuit which is usually Neptune 3 (because it is the closest to where I stayed)
New Makati, Amazonia then Escape.

DH = Domestic Helper, they usually only get Sunday off and have to be home by 9pm. There are exceptions my DH has Thursdays off and goes home at 4am. Mainly Indonesian (get the right one and the sex is the unbelievable) recommend you try at least one you could get lucky.

They earn money on each drink, they will drink themselves into a coma if you keep buying them but I find 2 drinks max maybe a third if you are in the bar a long time having a good time with her.

As for what time I clarify that before I leave the bar, around 12/2pm is my usual request but if the GFE is not there I have sent them on their way earlier but nothing wrong in covering all requests before leaving the bar (BBBJ, CIM, anal etc if you want it always ask before sealing the deal)

Walk up is buildings where working girls do their business you arrive and can go door to door to choose the girl you want.

Hotel walk in you choose the girl off the data base & ring the agent who will tell you what hotel to go to (this option costs more and photo's are unreliable)

I guess I'll have to wait till 11 for sure. Great to see that bars are all within 500m. This link (found it in another thread) seemed to help me a lot but i'm not sure how outdated it may be:

http://maps.google.com.au/maps/m ... KS7vxN4qKiwOcvqn0AQ

I will take your recommendation on 2 drinks and 3 if i'm having a good time with her at the bar. Wow, it sounds like everything needs to be clarified before closing the deal and heading back to hotel. Is this very typical or will it annoy them? I'd hate to put them off from the get go with all my questions and requests. I"m a bit hesitant as well.

Some of my requests maybe like this:
GFE
DFK
CIM (not necessary but would be nice)
CBJ (is this standard?)
obviously multiple shots

Do girls usually like DATY? Do they return the favor with better service?

This may sound like a stupid question, but how would I know she is Indonesian? Do I simply ask her or ask mamasan? Do they usually speak english? Sounds like i really need to try it.

Hotel walk in pics look great in DB but if photos are unreliable, i rather not take risk (maybe next time), also if it costs more....i'd rather not bother since i don't know what i'm really getting

Re CBJ being standard - if you take a girl back home to your hotel/place, then I'd say BBBJ is more standard than CBJ (but if you rather want cover, I am sure that won't be a problem!).  Then again, I have seen numerous reports where girls "don't do" BJs at all!  So, to avoid surprises, you probably want to be upfront about that too.  I never ever had a problem with that when taking out a bar girl, all 100% BBBJ (and about 50% CIM),  Anal is a completely different thing though, I'd say only 1 out of 10, in my experience, is up for that.  I must admit I go against the advice and I never negotiate anything before going home (I don't recommend this approach, it just happens to be my preference) so there is always a bit of a surprise on what will actually go down.

Re bar girls and DATY, I find that 80% enjoy it.  Those that don't want it seem to be either because they feel dirty (but then try again after a shower!) or because they are in the initial or final stages of their period.  Slimshanks mentioned about many of them still out when they have their period.  That's absolutely true and some of them (and some bros too for sure) would have a problem with this.  I don't really have an issue with this, the only thing that goes away is the DATY (well for me that is, but each to their own taste!), otherwise it's no bigger issue than throwing your bed sheets in the washing machine the day after (or if in hotel, not your problem!).  As it turns out, the girls are also a bit more likely to do anal when they have their period

Yeah you can ask her if she's Indo, that's the easiest way really!  After being here for some time, it's not too hard to tell Indos, Flips and Thais apart.  Flips tend to speak decent to good English.  Indos speak basic to decent, but always enough to avoid it being a real problem!  After all, you probably won't end up discussing rocket science or any other advance topics with her!  

Slimshanks also got a very good point about Indos and their teeth. They don't know how to take care of them and quite a few of them use the nasty drug ice which accelerate the decay.  I havent had any issues with their feet though!  My personal favorite is still by far Indos, so if you find one with good teeth then you are in for a treat.  To be honest, I do have a bit of an odd taste sometimes and I can even enjoy picking up one with vampire teeth (classic Indo smile!), it's kinda cute in a weird way!  Still, I might have a think about starting a dental voucher scheme for them, as they are lovely creatures that deserve some help!

Certainly do stop by New Makati (my fave place), I think it might be a good first stop on your "disco" (i.e. after any pubs and bars you may want to go to first) tour in Wan Chai.  Compared to Neptune 3 and Escape, New Makati is a lot less hardcore and it can actually be tricky to spot where on the WG scale a girl sits (in Nep3 and Escape most of them are placed more towards the proper pro end of the scale).  Because of this, it's a nice "bridge" before hitting more hardcore hunting grounds.  True, not lots of 9 or 10 in New Makati, but plenty just below that!  Perhaps 60% Indos, 30% Flips and 10% other races in New Makati.  WHen going there though, just pay attention to the entrance (you enter and walk up the stairs) as there are velvet curtain places all around!  Also, if it's a weekend you're here then also check out J Forest (2 floor above Joe Bananas).  It's kinda dead during the week, so Fri/Sat/Sun only.

Finally, you mention the negos with Mamasan.  I think that's the case with Nep 3 (I havent been there a lot, so not sure) and all the velvet curtain places.  For places like New Makati and Escape, the girls tend to be free lancers so no Mamas involved (I've taken out a fair number of girls from both, but never spoken to a Mama, but others may have different experience).

Good luck!

Never spoken to a mama at Nep 3. All freelancers from what I can tell

Yeah the girls you want to be with in wan chai don't have mamas ... Or T least don't have mamas in the bars ( some of the filapina have managers but that to provide tickets accommodation - they just play then a kick back )

I have to say whw heartedly you need to pick up an indo whilst your here - go to makati and see how you get a rapport with. Don't worry too much about looks go for body first the sex will be amazing. Believe me 6 or 7 indo is with 2 10 out of 10 others

Makati is a great bar it friendlier than escape as the girls in there are majority indo who are long term residents in HK either genuine live out dh or over stayers.

Escape the girls are more pro they Are here on short term visas - however to contradict a bit of what I said above a good filapina will give you the best Gfe going and they are horny girls but the sex will be better on a repeat. With indo they will be a tiger from the word go.

As for daty yes go for it treat the girl like you would treat a gf ... Start with daty an don't stop till they cum it will come back and reward you.

Don't miss drinks in the queen Victoria this a good watering hole locals expat who do the wan chai scene drink get cHatting someone will point in the right direction.

Do not i repeat do not go in a curtain bar...

If your here at a weekend get yourself out on a Sunday as the dh are out and that is fun fun

I talk regularly with the mamasan at Neptune 3, all she will do is introduce you to the girl she does not have anything to do with quoting price's etc. She really is more like a bar hostess just making sure the customers are happy.

Sounds like we got a lot in common whome, so I am sure we met in New Makati before!  

Good advice on Neptune 3 cruman, I should give it another chance (both times I've been there the girl quality was pretty average!).

Also berserk: If you're into partying (and not just mongering), Players (fka Bridge) is the place to hit at after 4 am if you're still out.  Well, it's also a good place to know if, for whatever reason, you failed to seal the deal earlier during the night or if you had a WG running away from LT etc.  It's just next to Agave (Mexican restaurant on Lockhard Rd), easy to find.  Next door is Bar 109, another place filling up during after hours.  I had some good nights there but personally prefer Players  

Neptune 3 can be a bit hit and miss, generally Phillipino's during the week and Indonesians on Sundays. I can only say I have been very happy with the girls I have met at this place which is why I probably started drinking here instead of the New Makati on my last visit.
10pm onwards seems to have more girls, before this stick to the Makati.

Once again, thank you for all the input. All of it is very very useful!

So sounds like i'm much better off without negotiating with mamas. From doing some research i'm trying to better understand what velvet curtain bar places are and how to spot them and avoid them. Sounds to me like i should avoid them at all costs as overall service and cost may be worse (more risk).

I really plan on checking out Makati, Escape, and Neptune 3. Sounds like getting a few drinks at Victoria before I get my night started might not be a bad idea. I do want to have a drink somewhere before i get started.

Corsair: Funny you suggest that as actually i am a little interested in partying and checking out the scene...who knows, i could get lucky and find a girl there although i'm not sure how likely/easy that may be (i'm under 35yrs, fyi). You mentioned Players (what is fka bridge...sorry for the dumb questions). Is Players a club? were locals hang out or can i get a girl there?....got a little confused.

whome: you suggested indo and let me tell you, i've been hearing that over and over and really thinking about it, maybe if the looks are sometimes very important to me i'll be sure to have an extra beer or 2....lol


what are the chances of me going to walk up girl and taking them back to hotel? is that even possible or do most of them not even speak english? It's just that i've seen so many good looking girls in the DB

Regarding negotiations with the girls I always do the normal find a girlfriend thing , smile, some small talk, offer them a drink if everything seems sweet, talk some more, have a dance makeing it like civi street. I never mention costs/actions preformed till I am happy with the girl and I am ready to leave with her. I have never had a lady say no and they have never been offended when I have asked price. You could come out with it at the beginning to save you a drink or 2 just in case she is not interested but that is not my style i like the GFE and if you treat them like a lady i find its more likely to happen if you do not come across as I just want a f@#K. But bear in mind this is my opinion and its not the only way or possibly the right way of doing it.

Regarding the ladies and looks my first choice is a Indo girl if you want mind blowing sex, on average they may not be as attractive as some of the other race's but 4 out of my top 5 punts have been with Indo girls with No 1 streets ahead of them all.
Honestly are you looking at their face while you are giving them one ? but they all had 1 thing in commom they have great bodies.

Players is a bar opposite New Makati but is usually dead while everything else is rockin but it is a good bar to sit with a quiet beer as you can sit & watch the girls from the curtain bars across the road trying to drag mugs into their lair. When ever I am in HK I will always stop in once or twice for a quiet beer before the seriuos hunting begins.

Dont forget Amazonia (you walk past it when going from Makati to Escape) it is hit or miss but you can find some attractive girls here sometimes

Velvet curtain bars are the bars with the scantily clad girls outside who try to drag u in ... Call velvet curtain bars because they have curtain over the door.

The players used to be called the bridge - some people still call it by old name.

Trick is in all the bars don't open with negotiating just chat them up - might sound daft but they are just girls. And as I said most ate freelance hence they can say who when where and how much. A bar girl picks a punter as much as punter picks a girl.

Taking a walk up home - slim chance of that they have managers bosses etc plus most are mainland Chinese. Farm or factory girls who speak zero English.

As cruman says, Players is usually dead when other places as rocking.  BUT, that's the point - when the other places are getting quiet/closing, that's when players is good.  That means there's no point going there before 4-5am, but it's one of the few good places at that time of the morning.  It tends to keep going for quite some time, I was there a recent Sat morning (arrived 4.30am) and when I left at 11.30am it was still going strong.  It's a club/bar and was called Bridge before (as whome mentions).  There will be plenty of WGs in there, so no problem finding a girl, just don't assume they are all WG and you may have to work on it!  As morning turns into day, many girls here are happy just to go somewhere nearby to chill, so they won't ask for much money, if any.

thanks for all the info! So just for an update...i'm set to be there on sat Feb 23.....will arrive there at 8pm....first time there.....a bit intimidated as i feel odd and shy talking to a girl about requirements and expectations.....i've been reading a lot so it sounds so easy....if it weren't for this forum, i'd be a total newby probably going in their blind with no direction....i seem to have a better sense of direction, however it is still a bit intimidating...i'm still tempted to try out the walk up girls as they look really good and are really good price, but i'm going to stick to trying to get a girl for the night that i'm am into and getting the full GFE.

Pretty excited about it.

I wish there was a quick and easy way to upload pictures and maybe even video's up to this website via cell phone....i have an android phone that takes both good pictures and video as long as there is decent lighting....i don't have phone plan in HK so my best bet is to do it via wifi if i could find a nearby place that offers it free. Obviously the other choice would be use computer but that would be a day after i'm done.

I hope to get some K points so I can get a higher access level which i belive requires K points?  Anyways....let me know if you guys have any suggestions on on best way to upload pictures quick and easy via android phone

Mate try walk up by all means they are probably most convent way to punt but its 500hkd one shot 35 to 45 mins ( on average)

As you on Hols bar punting is ideal as it got in with your evening - don't worry too much about talking about requirements - bar punting in wan chai is a lot like a civie night on the pull - just you are pretty guaranteed a shag at the end of it.