Subject: Hongkong pass from China for china citizen
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Hongkong pass from China for china citizen

Dear All,
is there any of you know EEP? Hongkong pass from China for China citizen.

Actually I plan to take a WG from CP to HK. I plan to go to disneyland with her. I chatted with her, she said no problem. Since she has HK pass which is valid for 3 years.

Is it true that HK pass can be valid that long? Not only for a year then it will be expired??

Anyone of you who know information HK pass / EEP, please share here.

Thanks a lot for your information.

I really dream can take her to visit disneyland. Is there any of you have fallen in love with WG?

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Reply #1 maonana's post

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Fall the love of god, don't fall in love with a WG. How long have you been in CP?

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Have fun in Disneyland - if she says she has no problem crossing to HK, she will have no problem crossing into Disneyland. If she gets into problems, the most is that they will reject her at the Luohu crossing.
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Post at 9-1-2014 06:40  Profile P.M. 
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Haha Mr Fast,
thanks for your comment. Last time I stayed at CP only 3 nights, and only spent time with her for 2 nights. I also do not know, until now when I get back, I am thinking about her everyday. Right now, we just communicate through wechat. I am very enthusiastic to meet her again this summer and take her to disneyland.

Yes, if we are rejected at Luo Wu, we will go to shenzhen and visit windows around the world instead.

You can check at her pic at the thread that I wrote here

http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... &extra=page%3D1

Wish me luck, Bro. How about you? Have you visited CP for so many times already??

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Reply #3 maonana's post

Each entry would enable them to stay for 7 days. Luohu closes at 12 midnight but Huanggang is open 24 hrs. If you want to 'stretch' out the 7 days, she may cross at Huanggang just past midnight and she'll 'gain' some extra time.
Not sure your extent of friendship/relationship with this WG but you should ask or at least talk about the compensation portion for her time with you, unless she just wants a break (at your expense naturally) from work and spend the time with you as a vacation.
Again, not sure what had transpired between the 2 of you, WGs are also human, they have feelings and if you treat them right, they will reciprocate. Relationships with ongoing WGs are never easy. If you are serious, you'll need to find out what she needs and resolve that for her to stop. However, even after that, suspicion will usually arise because the psyche and values of WGs are very different.
I'll share with you more if you are interested via PM. It sounds like a nice trip. Good luck.
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Reply #1 maonana's post

How many WG you been with?
Don't fall in love with the first one to suck and fuck your LB.

Have fun taking her to Disneyland but be careful with your feelings towards her.
You might come crashing down hard.

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Reply #3 maonana's post

wow, waiting till summer huh? That's like 5 months from now. Some scenarios might likely happen:
1) She will fish you for some $, sob stories. If you're not a seasoned player, you WILL  fall for them because you are clearly smitten and you won't want her to suffer.
2) As the love or feelings deepen through your conversations, you may get affected by the fact that she is still working. So you might offer to give her some money to be 'exclusive'. If you willingly do so, you will need to find a means to ensure that she does as agreed. This will start to eat you up. It can be done but not too easy.
3) You might want to suggest to her an 'in-between' solution. Suggest that she works at KTV but doesn't do take outs. She can still earn some while you 'top up' the rest.

Of course the above are not all encompassing but the story plays out almost the same way most of the time. Not sure where you are but it sounds like a western society. You are threading on very thin ice here. There are lots of people here with such experiences. Let us know how we can help you make the best decision.

If nothing sinks in, just remember this: PRC girls, especially WGs, have very different values and outlook in life. DO not use your western/educated lens in viewing/judging them.
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Reply #1 maonana's post

careful buddy. WG are easy to pick up but hard to send back. Think twice before you do anything. Having fun is one thing, my advice is to keep the relation as it is now and don't complicate things. your choice, have fun.
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Yeah I would say don't go with too high expectations on this girl or you might come crash very hard. If she works on CP and keeps working till summer how many men she will be with ? Can you stand the fact that she has been in this business ? Maybe the first few months is ok cause we call it the honeymoon period between lovers. You get blinded by love but what happens after ? Also if you take it a step further. Marrying a PRC girl is hard. Getting her out of china probably will take you a few years. Will you be ready to make the sacrifice ? A lot of these stories been told here and most of them end out bad. If you think you can manage I truly wish you good luck. But think twice to date a WG as it will certain bring a lot more pressure than a normal relationship.
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@ All gurus / masters / seniors :
thanks a lot for your advices.

1. Yes it's still 5 months ahead. But I am looking for economic value of ticket with comfortable time such as arrive at HKIA at 4:00 PM and leave HKIA back to my country at 4:00 PM. Right now, I just got garuda indonesia round trip for USD 460. If I buy 1 or 2 months before my departure, it would cost me usd 700 i believe for high season such as june - july. I am working as an IT consultant. My contract will end in june. Usually I take a short break before continuing with other contract / project. I also need to save around usd 500 monthly starting from february to accumulate enough fund for summer trip.

2. Yes, sure I will compensate her for her time. I offer her RMB 5000 to accompany me 3 nights (FJ x2 daily ) + 1 or 2 souvenirs from disneyland and she said ok, no problem.

3. Some reasons behind why I can half fall in love with her. She is cheerful, young, can communicate little in english and last time when we went to LCC mall in CP, she only asked for a spongebob doll (RMB 110) which I thought very nice for WG to ask only such cheap item.

4. I have had experiences probably with around 200+ WG in 11 years of my experience in sex journey. but with PRC girl maybe between 10-20. There is one indonesian girl I had RO for 30+ times. At the end, I am fed up and tasteless when I had FJ with her lately......With one PRC girl who worked at spa in Indo, also from Chongqing, in her late 20s. I RO with her 12 times. I tend to have RO with the girl that I like. My favorite composition would be 70 GFE 30 PSE (porn star experience).

Once again, thanks for your concern and advice.

@ Bro stanley : I already PM you =D.......wish to get a lot of precious lessons. I studied in Arizona St Uni before. Stayed there only for 4 years. I really adore chinese music, movie, food and the girls although I only really know basic chinese =D....

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Reply #9 maonana's post

Good, you sound experienced enough. Long distance relationships can work. Technology now helps a lot but it can be heavy on the wallet.
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Bro Maonana, been through what you're thinking about doing with your CP girl. Only difference is I ended up spending 1 month with her on my first trip and 2 months with her on my second trip, needless to say I retired her and am retired from the mongering life myself.

Goodluck Bro, PM me if you wants more info or want to hear more of my story.
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@Kenli, I have PM you. For sure, I am very interested to hear your story =D

Btw, if you don't mind, how much you give her monthly to make her want to retire and live with you? Is she working right now / just become a housewife

@All : I mean, usually / logically, the girl would decide to retire and stay with us if they can get how many % of their current monthly income? 50% ?

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Reply #12 maonana's post

If you are retiring her with no commitment, Then I would say you have to compensate close to whatever she is making now.

If you retire her with a commitment, Then you can compensate her much less or whatever you can afford.  This is also a good test if she want you for the money or for you.

Of course after you retire her she can be a housewife or find a normal job that pays the shits but keeps her from boredom.

I give my GF 6000ish a month and occasionally 10 000ish when increased expense is required, this amount covers her rent too.

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