Subject: Weird Thing About Wanchai For Me
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Weird Thing About Wanchai For Me

Coming from the western world, there is one thing that still remains weird to me with regards to Wanchai.  I love spending time there and hanging out but it is very difficult to get used to the lack of personal space.

It is still a little perplexing when you are sitting at a table with a couple of girls and some guy walks up and puts his drink or whatever on your table and just stands there.  LOL  In the U.S. we would tell him to feck off because this is our table and go get his own, but in Wanchai it does not seem to bother anyone except the white guys like me.

Last time, my girl gets up to go pee.  She leaves her drink, purse and empty stool pushed in while she makes her stop.  This girl that saw we where together and who watched my girl walk by on her way to the bathroom just comes up and sits on her stool.  I gave her the "are you fucking kidding me look" and shooed her away.  I mean damn my girl is at least a 12/10, perfect body tiny petite little thing and this girl was at best a 3/10 overweight girl that I could pick up at any Walmart in the U.S. for free.

Later that same night some complete drunk douchebag walks up and puts his damn backpack on the table.  The girls all looked at me like come on knight in shinning armor do something.  That hit my limit because it was taking up half the damn table.  I told him to get the bag off the table.   Dumb ass put it below the table and then ended up walking off and forgetting it later.  Really dumbass you gotta bring a backpack to a Wanchai bar?


I have also had a couple of times where we are dancing together and some dumbass gets the bright idea that he is going to grab my girl.  Bad move bro!!  She doesn't want the advance and I as the person paying for the entertainment is not going to let you get a cheap thrill while messing up our good time.  Both of those times, it was the back the feck up look and the guys were like sorry man I really didnt mean to do it.  Then the smile like bullshit bro now move on.  They were both obviously drunk twits, but a man only has a certain level of patience.

Does this ever bother anyone else?

[ Last edited by  slimshanks at 9-5-2012 12:13 ]
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Post at 9-5-2012 13:56  Profile P.M. 
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Yes, Wan Chai is a strange place. I was down there last night and witnessed some of this sort of behavior.

Plenty of inconsiderate dicks around. The alcohol and cocaine don't help things.

I personally find it quite rude when I'm chatting or dancing with a girl and another guy tries to interrupt us.

Also find it somewhat strange when a girl is obviously not interested in a guy, yet he continues to pursue her. Nothing more than meat? I just can't conceptualize it... what is he thinking?

Anyways, there are far more good punters than bad, and the bouncers are effective, if you need them. Be like bamboo, and let the dicks pass by...
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Real estate is king in HK. It is not just Wanchai, but all over HK.

A seat is a desired thing to rest one's legs for a moment. I am sure the chubby girl would have given the seat back once your chick returned from the toilet. I do the same whenever I need to rest my tired legs from standing/dancing all night.

But at least I ask the 'owner' first for permission, same for placing a drink on their table. Most people (locals and foreigners) don't mind as they have done the same in the past when they were wasted and needed a seat to sit while they pass out.

Of for another example of the sharing a table is normal behavior, try finding an empty table for just yourself during the lunch hour in any fast food joint. Damn impossible, I say. You will have to accept the norm and share a table with strangers so you can have a place to sit.


On the other topic about other guys dancing with your girls or trying to grab them...this happens a lot in HK because if you are not visibly holding the girl's waist or hands while dancing, the other guys assume you are only her non-bf friend. I have seen locals and foreigners do this a lot. If you want to continue dancing I can only suggest you find a corner of the dance floor where you can box out the other guys with either your physical size or visible snarl. I don't recommend you pushing the guy back as you will be bounced out of club by the bouncers.
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I see hwere your coming from slim but your attitude won'thelp - while most are just drunk idiots some guys will be looking for a rise and by having a go at them you are playing in to their hands.

In my experience best way to deal with this is to be generous and polite to staff and the girls in the bars, any problems and they will look after you as they always look out for people who spend money in their bars.  

As for approaches on girls you are with from other dudes just ignore them, if the girl is happy with you then she will stay otherwise she is likely justa mercenary and all you will achieve is jacking up the price by getting in to a sword fight with another guy.  There are plenty of hot girls in the clubs I just walk away and start talking to another girl 90 percent of the time the girl who was previously with me comes to find me as the girls can be just as jealous as the men especially if you are well known in the bars by the other girls and staff!
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Post at 9-5-2012 19:47  Profile P.M. 
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I had a similar experience on my times in WC (not to the same extent, I've never been on weekends as I doubt I'd enjoy it being any busier).

I get what you're saying about personal space but, compared to the west, much of HK is like that in a lot of ways to my eye.

The thing that I notice though is that despite the lack of personal space there isn't the aggression that comes when someone invades in in western cultures. Maybe I've just been lucky but I've had nothing but fun in WC. Seen a few groups of young men running about being a bit louder but even than they seem easy to ignore/avoid (again, maybe just my luck?)
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Some of that lack of personal space is just Asia, IMHO.  I get it in bars, restaurants, standing in lines, airplanes, trains, etc.  It's a different level of comfort with the communal area I guess.  And of course some of that intrusion is just plain boorish behavior; either from inebriation or from a jaded monger who's hobbied so much he can no longer distinguish between civvies and whores.  You know the kind of guy: he's fallen into treating every woman likes she's both on sale and available.  Throw a little liquor into him and he's a social disaster.




I didn't do it.  Really I didn't.
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Haven't been down to the WC area much, but I do notice that sharing is common in HK.  At most restaurants, you'll have to share tables with others simply because it is so busy and space is quite limited.

That said, sharing girls is another story.  I've seen enough guys make total asses of themselves and they would never get away with this shit here in NA.  They somehow think they are kings in HK and do what the fuck ever they want.
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Reply #1 slimshanks's post

if you are with your girlfriend, better avoid wanchai.

lkf is much better place for couple
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Interesting reads from everyone.  My girl is there only for me and she does not like it if anyone makes an adavance on her.  She has made that part very clear to me.  We party with her friends quite a bit and they have asked me numerous times to intercede in a situation that they are uncomfortable with.  I don't mind an average dude using an empty spot as long as he is respectful and does not step over the line.  Don't bother my woman and if her friends tell you to move on, then move on.  

Wander was right when he said guys will get rejected by girls for being sloppy, drunk, rude, smelly or downright fat.  Her friends have rejected guys many times in my prescence and it was funny to watch.  Prior to this I thought many of the girls would take just about anyone, but now I have seen that some of them are very picky about who they spend time with.

I am about as fun loving and laid back as they come until someone has to make an ass out of themselves.  I always involve the bouncers first.  I am the same size as many of them, but that is what they get paid to do.  I have gotten to know some of them and also have other things available that they are aware of that prevents trouble from coming my way.  Man I am an Asian woman loving man whore and just want to have fun!!
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Asia is like this. Comfort zones are tiny (ie the distance between you and your neighbourg) in real estate or at the club. People are used to it, I have rhe feeling that its even worse for mainland chinese (they basically dont care). I still love asia cause thanks to that you can have quite a lot of fun! Being very close has its advantages! ;)

Now watch out though. In asia a lot of people do martial arts (more than in Europe for sure, not sure about the states)and some you wouldnt expect are really lethal weapons. My advice is to always handle the situation with diplomacy (f offf doesnt work here)even when your pissed. Nearly got into a bar fight once with a guy who was drunk and saying we were hitting on his girl (which we were not and his girl was really embarassed). The guy he was threatening to kick his ass off was a muay thai fighter. He stayed very calm but this poor chap was really closeto loosing all his teeth (but nobody wants to deal with hk police!!!).
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Haha the girls will go with anyone if the price is right, if they reject someone it is usually because they judge the guy to be tight, I know guys who are ugly, obese, sweaty smelly etc who the girls flock too because they are regular big spenders in the bars!

As for the bouncers most are pretty small but I wouldn't cross any of them, as the saying goes its not about the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog that counts and in my experience it doesn't matter who you are you will come second to a nepalese bouncer!

Be careful with the girls, I would trust a bar girl right up tote moment she says she only sleeps with me. If you met a girl in the bar then you can guarantee she will be looking for other customers while you are away. If guys are approaching her often then it is likely they know her. The amount of girls I know who come in with their boyfriends and thenpull faces at me, come talk to me when her boyfriends back is turned and even had girls walk over and kiss me or stick their hands down my pants.

I love these girls to bits but I always work on the basis thatthey are just as badly behaved as I am!
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i will never forget my first time at Maccas when some random people out of knowhere sat at my table..........you get used to it.
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Reply #11 WWHK's post

>the girls will go with anyone if the price is right, if they reject someone it is usually because they judge the guy to be tight,

Absolutely agree with you! I have seen that happen so many times.
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Reply #11 WWHK's post

Oh definitely .. The girls will go with anyone - had arranged to meet a filapina regular of mine a couple of weeks ago at 11ish on a Monday night.

I rocks into neptunes look forward to a bit of fun to find her knee in other guys... I was subtle nudged her when There back was turned and exchanged a smile ... Moved onnext day she said sorry but these guy were throwing drinks around and worked she could charge them more than me... Don't blame her!
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Reply #14 whome's post

Had the same happens me. Had a great night with a Filipina girl, and said I'd come pick her up again he next night same place. I show up, and she is sitting in the lap of some dude in a suit with 4 other girls around, tHe dude was throwing money around like crazy and buying round after round.  I sat across the bar and waved, she waved back... But she wasn't moving from that cash cow.

Well, that's why they are working girls, and not girl friends. I took it in stride and picked up a nice Thai girl instead...
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