So lets say, hypothetically.. Your WG decided to charge you $1300 for a walk in, after a shitty session. You forgot to ask the price before starting the whole thing.. She's about to call her papasan. What would you do?

Personally, I would pay up...because I failed to negotiate a price before hand.  I am the one paying, and I would make sure that I knew what it would cost beforehand.  Having said that, I would argue strongly first, and then if I lost the argument, I would pay.  You live and you learn.

First, need some more info on the situation. Is there a communication issue, like language ?
Where is the place located at HK, China ?


Try to negotiate for less since it was bad service.

Last resource is, I might talk with papasan on the phone.

whats the difference between HK and China papasans?

If its a mental lapse on my part, i will just try to talk her out and pay probably less than what she demands but if she can show proof that she's charging me the right amount posted in the DB, then i'd pay her up in full to clear the misunderstanding.

Rule #1 - price before anything happens. But you know that.
After that, I guess try negotiating w/the handler. They are the final answer anyway.

But at the end of the day - you wanna get in a tussle w/a pimp for an extra $50 USD?
That's like a couple happy meals. Take your lumps and learn to negotiate the price first.
Call it a life lesson.

Honest truth - in the same situation, I always just pay up and walk away.
You're in a pretty morally grey area in a hotel room with a WG. It's best to just... play it cool.
But I am a wimp like that.

nobody's said it yet: WHY didn't you ask the price as you walked in??

the #1 reason we don't ask the price up-front is we already saw a price listed on the Web

That's a binding offer

If you know the price on the web was $1300, duh, pay up
If you know the price on the web was less than $1300, equally duh, let her call her papa and slang it out with him: he's the one who set the false expectation

Even if at the end you choose to pay, you still need to communicate

hypothetically that is

I still suggest you ask the price before you go in, even if its posted on the web! I went in without asking, and it was a mistake. The online price was 380, when I finished, she said it was 500. There were two prices posted on the wall: 380 and 500. I had no idea what they were for and we couldnt communicate with each other. I pointed to the 380, and she said no and some other stuff I couldnt understand. At this point, I realized I should have asked her the price before going in, so I just paid up. When I got back to my hotel, I looked it up and the 500 price was including body massage, which I did not get.

Ohh, and that was all the money I had in my wallet! exactly 500hk! what would have happened if she charged more???

There is a big difference. In HK it's legal if there is no pimp.  You can call the police if there is a big problem and they could be the judge.  If she can prove that's the price she normally changes, you are out of luck. The police is going to tell you to pay.  She will probably then ask for more for taking up her time.

Or she will call her papasan for help. Where it's illegal because she has a pimp. Then 10 guys might be there.

In China, it's illegal and you could have 10 guys in your face and no help from the police. When 10 guys do come, you are going to pay any amount to get out of the place, unless want to end up dead. Since it's illegal, you certainly don't want to call the police.

Another option, is you can quickly run out of the room and NOT pay. There is really nothing she can do since most likely you are bigger than her but your picture is on a video cam. that is if it is in HK.

Edit:

I meant if the girl doesn't have a pimp ( most do on the side), it legal and the police can get involved.
If she has a pimp or agent, she will call her pimp to get involved.

[ Last edited by  Weelock at 27-1-2012 12:46 ]

I'd also agree that ask the price before starting, since prices on the web can vary (ie, the costs in the DB versus reports have a bit of discrepancy). Also, not everyone might have found them from the web, so its always good just to take 5 minutes at the start just to confirm with them, so its all agreed before the fun begins.

I would try to talk to the papasan first about the bad service issue and then go for the normal price since I've taken service. I don't think HG is legal in HK so calling police would be the last execution to protect yourself.

You know she is trying to rip you off.  The most walkin cost is less than half of what she is asking.  Use your negotiating skills and try to make a deal with her.  Offer her something like 400 and try to get her to accept something reasonable.  She doesn't want to make a big deal out of it as much as you do so she will very like accept something a little more than what she normally gets.

your probably not going to get fair price....

I dunno if you want to risk getting blacklisted. Everyone makes mistakes and money can always be earned back.

You took the merchandise and got naked with it.

Pay up or get beat up


see my advice here:
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... mp;page=1#pid405395


indulge wisely, and always ask the price first.

Keep on mongering

Would you eat dinner at a fine dining restaurant that you've never been to without checking the menu and the prices?

Would you just hand over your credit card to a car dealership and buy a car without checking the price?

Same thing.... sort of...

It actually happened to me once.. went to a massage place and got meself a HJ thinking it was $380 for the whole deal. Only realized it was marked up now for $580... paid it anyways. My own fault..

@weelock

I've read your post 5 times just to make sure I'm not misreading it or misjudging you

and I still conclude what you wrote is irresponsibly misleading

You quoted a questions about papasans (twice).  There is NO difference in HK and in China in the law regarding agents for prostitutes.  Illegal.  Period.  Someone with your seniority on this Forum ought to know better.

I'm leaving the likely consequences of actually following your advice to the wider readers to figure out ...

I suggest you edit or withdraw your post asap, before the clock ticks in and prevents editing

Most girls claim they don't have agents in HK but most do if something goes wrong. The girls will call someone for HELP..

There's a big difference between an agent - who arranges the encounter and takes a cut of each transaction - and a guardian - who takes a fee for protection.  

But - to come back to the point of my post - agents are illegal in HK, and to state anything else is irresponsible.