Subject: A beginners guide to MFF in HK
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A beginners guide to MFF in HK

The call-up escort scene is not my thing because I like the hunting part and the possibility to see and talk to the girl before I go any further. So all my experiences with MFF (2 girls one guy) in HK have been related to the bar scene in Wan Chai (except one in Privé, but this is another story).

Here follows my pickup routine. Tried it 7 times in HK with 100% hit rate.


10 STEPS TO A PERFECT NIGHT:

1. LOCATION
You must be in one of the more hardcore bars where there is a lot of action, many girls and hard competition. I find the best options to be Escape and Neptune II.

2. FIND A TARGET
Target a girl you like, but not the top girls in the place - they have too many options. Also it must be one with some experience and lots of friends / knows all the other WGs in the place. Note that it is easier to get the Thai and Viet girls into doubles, just like it is easier to get a GFE with A Philli or Indo girl. Chinese are hardest because they always try to hustle you.

3. DON´T TALK, WAIT
Don´t talk to her, just have a beer and hang around close to where she is standing. Chat to the people around, but not to her. Just notice her, give her a smile and some eye contact.

4. LANDING THE DEAL
It will not take many minutes before she will start talking to you. Simply reject any one else. She will say something like "Do you like me?  Want to take me home?" You reply "Not sure. Think I just will have a beer. Maybe later." and "Just curious, how much?". She will answer "2.000" or something ridiculous like that, since the more experienced ones always try to start high. You say "Nooooo, you are crazy. No chance." She will start negotiating. This is where you say. "I tell you what. I am not interested, but if you bring a pretty young friend I will pay you 3.000. But I am not paying for your friend" She will get the $$ look in her eyes and tell you to wait. Sometimes they find someone in the place and sometimes they make a call. Now she is acting like a proper Mamasan and you are in total control. If she comes up with a girl you don´t like you just tell her that this is no good and she finds another. This part is actually quite funny. As soon as you made the choice get out of there before they get cold feet. The reason why you are only paying for one girl is that the other is technically not a WG, hence it is not illegal (doubt it will hold up with the LE, but worth a try).

5. CAB HOME
This part is important. Now you have time to get to know them a bit and make them let their guard down. I always stop to buy supplies. You ask if the want anything and they usually only want some gum, water, or nothing at all. While buying the condoms you ask if they like the vibrating kind. It´s rather stupid, but never fails to make them laugh and at this point they are starting to like you and feel that you care! When leaving the taxi you pay the cabbie a good tip. The WG´s often say "Why did you do this, you pay too much!", where I say "He was a nice driver and gave me a good experience!". I don´t have to tell you why I do this, it´s pretty obvious...

6. ESTABLISH THE RULES
Once you get in the room you have a drink and establish the rules. I usually say something like. "I am the commander, you are the master (and point at the experienced one" and you are the servant (and point to the younger one)". Important that this is with humor and while fooling around so it does not sound stupid. Then "Now let´s have a shower". If you are week at this point you are fucked because they will take the advantage of you and try to make an easy buck and get the fuck out of there asap.

8. THE MASTER PLAN
This is when all comes together and the hard work pays off. You have established that you are a nice guy, there is some good cash to be earned, and the line of command is clear. What you do now is start commanding. You tell the master "now show your friend how to give a guy a good time". Usually she will start bossing her friend around and getting into some great stuff. She will be happy letting the younger one do most of the work and so will you ;) Sometimes they do things not even you would think about, like reverse cowgirl while the other gives BLS with shaft licking and partially DATY on the friend.

9. AN ALL NIGHT SITUATION
At this point it is very late and the WGs have minimal chance to find more business this evening. If there was only one girl, the all-nighter would be 90% sure even without any convincing, but since they are two it demands some work. All you have to do is give the impression that there is a chance to make more money. Usually I say something like "This is great, we should do this more often! If you girls stay the night I will buy you a great breakfast tomorrow morning". Usually this is enough and they stay the night. If not you give the master 500-1.000 and they will stay. In both situations you will get some great morning action and a pretty good double scrubbing in the shower.

10. THE EXIT
If you paid extra last night you simply tell them it´s time to leave after you´re done. If you didn´t pay and you obviously don´t want to be seen walking around the city with two WGs, it´s time to be creative. It´s actually the same deal as with a regular ONS except it helps with some cash. I usually say something like. "Sorry girls, I have to work today and don´t have time for the breakfast. Here is $500 for a cab and some breakfast. Give me your number and I might call you later".


Works like a charm!


Some final notes on related topics:

TAKING PICTURES; It is a lot harder to get quality action pics with two WG in the room than with one. You will be very lucky if they let you take pictures without charging extra. However they don´t mind much when dressed and getting ready to leave.

NOT RECOMMENDED; even though I know most you guys love watching girl on girl action I do not recommend suggesting this in HK. They seldom do this when asked and just get moody. It simply takes all the fun out of the situation.


There are without doubt a bunch of other techniques that will work and I would love to hear, please share your inside tips, tricks and experiences!


Have fun guys!


Attached are pictures from a typical leaving scene of two Viet gals (from an experience last year).

[ Last edited by  Nordic at 16-10-2011 07:20 ]


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oldschoolboy   28-10-2011 23:10  Karma  +1   Thanks. Great guide for us nubies.
bp626   28-10-2011 12:28  Karma  +2   Excellent Report & Pics! Thank u, Nordic!
JackTheBat   28-10-2011 01:07  Karma  +8   well played sir, see my comment below. and, LOVE the pics!
ulebsari   25-10-2011 00:39  Karma  +2   good read. cheers
TonyToro   24-10-2011 20:49  Karma  +2   thx
newbieenewbiee   24-10-2011 04:46  Acceptance  +1   Excellent, only wish i can see the pics
issue151   23-10-2011 05:31  Karma  +2   i like your style!
TheButler   23-10-2011 05:08  Karma  +3   Nicely said Nordic,
chelu   17-10-2011 11:51  Karma  +2   Which is master and who is servant?
Frenchexpat   17-10-2011 11:21  Acceptance  +1   Yep, like the strategy!
cactuss   17-10-2011 10:19  Karma  +3   Excellent
hkplayboy   17-10-2011 09:03  Acceptance  +1   spent more time looking at your avatar than reading the guide.
Freshman   16-10-2011 20:45  Acceptance  +1   Cant read...too distracted by avatar
Petay_1283   16-10-2011 15:57  Karma  +3   
bcs74   16-10-2011 15:42  Karma  +3   Nice
SEAJ   16-10-2011 11:45  Karma  +3   U like the vibrating kind?=U really care abt her??!! LMAO!!
twiceAweek   16-10-2011 09:20  Karma  +3   Interesting !
jm322   16-10-2011 09:04  Acceptance  +1   BTW MMF is (Male, Male, Female) what your referring to is MFF.
devilgodspeed   16-10-2011 08:58  Acceptance  +1   good advise!
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LIttle correction, it would be MFF (one male two females).   MMF would say two men, one girl.

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Nordic   16-10-2011 14:22  Karma  +1   Thanks!
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Reply #2 CanuckGuy's post

maybe one of them IS a guy ?   

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Reply #2 CanuckGuy's post

Sorry, a bit new on the abbreviations... of course I mean MFF... corrected the post...

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Reply #1 Nordic's post

Don´t give a shit about her... It´s all about getting the best experience for your hard earned cash

You can´t hustle a hustler

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Reply #1 Nordic's post

LOCATION AND TIME: Bar 109 on a Sunday afternoon.

Within an hour of being in here a friend of mine pulled two girls and had them in a hotel for 7 hours. One was fit and the other not bad.

He did all kinds with them and showed me the pictures to prove it!

Cost him 700 per girl + room for 2 hours!

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Reply #6 Petay_1283's post

You can sure get some good deals, some of my best experiences with WGs have been dead cheap.

The whole point with this simple guide is that it is something you can plan on doing and do it with almost 100% success.

Getting two decent WGs for the price of one is great, but it really is a hit or miss situation. If you go into a bar with this as a your only goal chances are you will be disappointed...

Would love to see the pics though and congrats to your friend on the great deal

I bet you a beer it was Philli gals!

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Silly question - what is SNO ? Racking my brain but can't work the abrieivation.

Good advice on the 3some... Good to be strong and not to drunk or you will get takenadvantage of.

Girl / girl may just happen just don't push it.
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Reply #7 Nordic's post

Fantastic! I owe you a beer
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sorry mate to be asking a dumb question.. since its a 3some..

Do you neeed to change condom's or its just 1 condom and fuck that 2 kittys?

I have this fantasy using 1 condom. thrusting that cunt once and then the other cunt once .. both in their doggie position.

fuckk.. getting hard now.
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Hmmmm,

To be honest I dont think it is anywhere near as complicated as you suggest to get a 3p in WanChai bars.  In fact, it is just as common for me to have to tell them that I DONT want two gals that nite.

Just walk into any of the WanChai bars.  The girls often head to the bars in twos anyway.  Find a couple where you like both of then.  Head over, buy some drinks for both.  Negotiate price.   Done.

Yes, I agree that girl-on-girl action is unlikely.  These girls are not gay.  But plenty of fun can be had.
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Reply #11 wander's post

girl to girl action is quite common when one of them is a lesbian.
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Reply #12 devilgodspeed's post

Ummmm, hehe... that's true (kinda obvious, mate.  hehe).  The problem is finding the hot lesbians.

Boracay and Galaxy bars fill up with Lesbian DHs on Sundays - but when I've gone there I rarely have found any HOT gals.  Ya get the super tomboys that are a real turn-off and hate men anyway, along with their meek "girlfriends" who are being protected from us leeering men by the tomboys.  A weird scene there actually.

I did find some bi-sexual gals a few times and had true porn-star 3Ps (with them sucking each other and such) but it's rare and always just been a lucky find.  I couldnt guide you to any specific club...
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This plan has been quite sucsessful and I think a lot of the girls actually want to stay together

As far as getting the girl on girl porn star experience its a law of averages and is ausowe when they happen and the times it doesn't you just settle with banging 2 birds instead. - hard life isn't it......LOL
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so you do not negotiate if it is an all nighter beforehand?   they take advatage of you by leaving early?
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Reply #1 Nordic's post

That's a really good set of steps.  I find that I always skip Number 6 (establish the commander/master/servant) thing, and that would be a good step to always include.  You feel funny about saying stuff like that out loud, but I'll bet it liberates the girls to be a little extra nasty.

I also like the sly crack about the vibrating condoms.  Get them talking about the act early and it will really free things up.

I tend to agree with Wander that 3Ps are easy to get in HK (the girls think of it as half the work but for the same pay), but with Nordic's playbook I think you improve your experience.

The real challenge remains finding some true girl-on-girl action, and at the very least (as Exit posted) not having to constantly swap condoms in between pussies, that just kills the whole momentum.

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Nordic   23-10-2011 09:47  Karma  +1   My point exactly!




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MFF

Last time in LV noticed a couple hotties walking on the street. Struck a deal with one and she asked her friend to meet her back in an hour. Rather than having her friend just hang out street I said she could come to the A/C'd room too and wait. I add she can use the john, freshen up, take a shower or bath if she wants. hehe .....Hook set.....Girls love to freshen up.

So we all get to the room and the friend makes herself comfy by a window on a love seat that faced the bed.  My girl sits on the bed, and I look over at the love seat and her friend has her feet up on the love seat, legs spread and is shoving her hand down her panties. I'm  enjoying a nice BBBJ and her friend is rubbin her cooch.    HOT.   Soon me and my girl are nakid and going at it mish on the bed. Her friend moves a chair up next to the bed, puts her feet up on the bed, opens her legs. pulls her panties aside and spreads her pussy with her fingers for me to look at. HOT........She never joined in but was pretty hot watching her rub her dripping little slit as she obviously enjoyed watching cock go in and out of my girls pussy.

All for the price of one

Moral of the story....see two girls together, go for a deal with one and offer a comfy spot for the other to wait

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wander   23-10-2011 14:12  Karma  +3   Never tried that angle. Brilliant!!
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seems like a very good plan

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Reply #1 Nordic's post

I've never had a 3P of any kind although I'm a big fan of lesbians... being one myself LOL!

I have zero actual experience although I have knocked a 3P back several times:
(1) while staying at the Miramar about 10 years ago I entered the lift around 1am and 2 girls walked in and offered me a 3P for US$100. One was cute while the other was average so I just took the cute one.

(2) I instantly fell for a Korean girl at Hari's and walked past her and slipped a note into her hand that had my mobile # HK$1,000 YES or NO? She nodded yes so I walked straight up to my room, she sms'd me and I sent back my room number. a couple minutes later she arrives... with another girl she had been sitting with. I didn't like the other one so sent her on her way.

(3) I met a girl at Hari's on a Friday but couldn't see her that nite so I called her on Sunday and asked her to come to my Wan Chai hotel. She was a lovely PRC girl. She arrived with another girl, I had agreed to $1,500 for the best part of the day 11am - 5pm (I had a dinner meeting at 7pm). She arrives about 11:15 with a friend and says she will stay with me as well for an extra $1,000. The friend was hot. I declined and had great sex with the original girl but regretted not getting the other girl to stay.

(4) I was seeing an MGal called Ogii regularly and had become quite fond of her, she was fun to be with, a very enthusiastic f*ck, she was into everything and looks like Maria Ozawa! We were at Hari's one night driking and a Bro comes over and introduces himself and we start chatting. Yadda yadda yadda he wants to know if I would consider a 3P with him, me and Ogii! I say you must be joking? and he tells my how much fun it is to "spit roast" a girl. I simply say that I know what a "spit roast" is but I'm sure I can't hold an erection looking into another man's eyes... even when my fave MGal is in between. Sick fucker!

Now, apart from (4) I am thinking maybe I have been missing out never trying this??? I have no idea. Is it really that good?

To OP Nordic, just commenting now on what I have seen but with no real knowledge, I would say that you are paying top dollar based on your pricing in post #1 above? Is it that much of a premium? I would have thought the WG likes the safety aspect??? I mean in Wan Chai you can pick up a fantastically cute Fil for <$1,000 over night.

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Reply #19 TonyToro's post

Oh man, your list of missed opportunities was getting my all excited until Number 4!   What a buzz kill.

TT, you should definitely try a 3P.  Not because they work out so well, they usually don't because the girls are missing their sense of Sapphic love.  I think you should give it a try because you have the balls to actually make it work out.  Like Nordic intimates above, you can't be shy about telling the girls what is expected and given your stable I'd bet you could find a girl willing to go down on her sister in crime.

If the girls play at the level of:

1.  Not swapping condoms from pussy to pussy (major momentum killer), AND
2.  They will 69 each other will you doggy one from behind,

then you've pretty much reached nirvana in the 3P universe.




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