Hello,

I have never paid a girl for sex, so I would like to know a few things before. I read the Faq, although I still need to read it again.

I would like to know (sorry for my poor english):
1) do you always ask the girls to take a shower/bath? (togother with you?)
2) since you get only one shot, should you "shoot" at the last end of 45 min ?
3) after you "shoot", what can you do with the girl in general ? (massage?)
4) is it a good thing that my first time is with a prostitute? (I know it is a very moral question)
5) do you always lead?
6) does gals always have condoms? Is it free?
7) I want to be discrete. If the gals have a "papa", do I have to see him? Can't I just phone him? Can I encounter other people when I go to the hotel where gals are (I mean, other man who go to prostitutes)
8) did you have embarrassing time with your girl ? Or silent moment when you do nothing because well you can't, or are just tired after shooting?
9) can you do it everywhere in the room ? (bathroom, flat, windows I don't know lol)
10) Oh, and what age had you the first time you went to gals?

Thank you!

Just from the general tone/tenet of your questions - I'd advise you to forget about it.

Just accumulate a bit more age, do things that other normal young people do and NOT start off your sex life by mongering.
You do NOT want to learn about life and relationships by first going to a prostitute - it'll skew/screw up your thinking for the rest of your life.

Hope you do not mind me speaking out and giving you this quite fatherly advise.

Thanks
SEAJ

I knew this Japanese guy who grew up in Vancouver and his parents gave him buttloads of cash.  He told me his 1st lay was with a hooker when he was 16.  He's a decent looking dude and he knows how to take care of himself.  He shouldn't have any problems picking up a girl, however he just felt it was easier to just pay for it than try to get a girl the 'traditional' ways.  You know, he took the path of least resistance and all that shit.  It was a sort of sad state as he really never became a 'real' man.

Going to go with SEAJ.  Don't screw up your relationship/social/sex life by seeing a prostitute for your first time.

i don't think there's anything wrong with his first time being a WG.  A lot of my friends first time was with WG's and they turned out.....nevermind you guys are right don't make your your first time with a prostitute.

I wanted to post my answers to all the 10 questions.
By the time I type answer 3, I felt so foolish.........

Sorry, but these are the 10 questions you need to experience yourself and it;s all common sense when it comes to fucking a chick.

what the hell, ill help the bro out with his questions.


1) do you always ask the girls to take a shower/bath? (togother with you?)
-no i dont ask. sometimes they will, sometimes they wont.

2) since you get only one shot, should you "shoot" at the last end of 45 min ?
-if you shoot too early, some girls will consider the session done. (ie lisboa race track girls) so if you want to last longer, jack off first before you see the WG.

3) after you "shoot", what can you do with the girl in general ? (massage?)
-depends on the girl. some girls will massage you, some will just want to rest. some will ask you to leave.

4) is it a good thing that my first time is with a prostitute? (I know it is a very moral question)
-my first time was with a pro and it was a goooood thing. personally, i dont think it really matters. it wasnt a life changing experience for me.

5) do you always lead?
-depends on the girl im with.

6) does gals always have condoms? Is it free?
-most WGs that offer FS carry condoms. theyre free. but if you want to be safe, bring your own.

7) I want to be discrete. If the gals have a "papa", do I have to see him? Can't I just phone him? Can I encounter other people when I go to the hotel where gals are (I mean, other man who go to prostitutes)
-i dont think you will meet the handlers of the hotel girls in HK. you just call them. and yes, i think there will probably be other people in the hotel. its a hotel.

8) did you have embarrassing time with your girl ? Or silent moment when you do nothing because well you can't, or are just tired after shooting?
-if there is no chemistry with you and the girl, then leave after fucking her. stop thinking so much about trying to get your money's worth by squeezing every second out of the session.

9) can you do it everywhere in the room ? (bathroom, flat, windows I don't know lol)
-i would think so. will probably depend on the girl.

10) Oh, and what age had you the first time you went to gals?
-19.

im gonna go ahead and ask, how old are u??
based on ur questions, u have no idea wat u want yet
if this is ur first time, ur not gonna get ur moneys worth cuz u have no penis control
if this is wat u wanna do, u mite as well hit the sauna and let them go crazy on u, haha

1) do you always ask the girls to take a shower/bath? (togother with you?)
I always take a shower!, If the girl say there won't be a shower I probably will leave.

2) since you get only one shot, should you "shoot" at the last end of 45 min ?
Like Invisible_dog said, I would jack-off first before you go to your session with the gal

3) after you "shoot", what can you do with the girl in general ? (massage?)
Most of the time I take a chat with the girl, but ofcourse if you don't speak the same language or there is no chemistry, just leave

4) is it a good thing that my first time is with a prostitute? (I know it is a very moral question)
My first time was with my girlfriend , I don't know if it will fuck up your mind/experience if your first sex will be with a prostitute. Though I think first time is always something special, so save it for your girlfriend.

5) do you always lead?
It depends, if it looks like you go in as a noob, i think they will lead.

6) does gals always have condoms? Is it free?
I always take my own with me, Durex got a big assortment of their products. The girls most of the time provide cheap condoms.

7) I want to be discrete. If the gals have a "papa", do I have to see him? Can't I just phone him? Can I encounter other people when I go to the hotel where gals are (I mean, other man who go to prostitutes)
Never seen the "papa" before. Just call and he will just tell you the directions


8) did you have embarrassing time with your girl ? Or silent moment when you do nothing because well you can't, or are just tired after shooting?
I do have some embarrassing moments but you shouldn't really care if you're not going back to the girl.

9) can you do it everywhere in the room ? (bathroom, flat, windows I don't know lol)
It depends on the girl, just ask

10) Oh, and what age had you the first time you went to gals?
22

Well thank you for your answer everyone.

To answer how old I am, well I'm 21.. But never had a girlfriend (and no, I am not ugly or fat and so on, when I had the opportunity I just looked away). Of course it's better to have a girlfriend but I've been telling myself this for a few years, I have some needs, looking for a girlfriend takes time/money/luke so if do the math, seeing a prostitute might be good, direct, no time wasted. Anyway, I will think a little before going to prostitute for real.

Well, it looks as if you ARE a careful and thinking young man eager to set your life on a proper path. And so, if you don't mind, I'd like to offer you  a few more fatherly type of advise.

You will find, as you progress through life, that there ARE many things that are more important, bring you more joy and will be so much more fulfilling AND REAL than to just merely satisfy your basic "natural instincts."  Sex with a WG IS great but it can only satisfy your sexual need - nothing more.

Yes, sex - and the need to get satisfaction - is a very powerful instinct; but you will also find that it pales in comparison to the true happiness that you will find from other things in life. I am talking about a family, children, marriage, love and even pride of accomplishment as you progress up the career ladder.

If too early in life you allow yourself to be dictated by the lure of sex and succumb to satisfying such by going the easy route of paying for it, IMHO, it will be a lot harder for you to ever in the future be able to fall truly in love; you will not have the drive or even inclination to properly pursue your mate as "the lure" will no longer be there for you to excel in your pursuit.

Why bother with all the nonsense that a civvie relationship entails - when in the end, us males just want - and need - to get into the female's pants?! Why not just pay for it?!  Well such an attitude will definitely lessen your chances of ever forming a proper relationship with a proper girl.

And it is only a proper relationship with a proper girl which you will find WORTHY of you - that will spur you to the success in life you need to achieve. Going too early in life to a hooker will so badly screw up your outlook on life, relationship, family, achievement, career etc that I strongly urge you NOT to start mongering now. There really is not much chance of turning back once you've partaken of the joys of sex; a truly strong instinct which you can and should tailor-make to suit your direction in life.

Wait till you HAVE achieved a certain amount of success in your career (+ money!) and a stable solid family life before you spoil yourself with your just rewards. You will then NOT feel as if you've compromised or taken away from what you need to FIRST accomplish in life, by then you REALLY will be able to enjoy mongering the way a lot of us enjoy it.

Just my POV and like I said, I hope you don't mind me offering it to you as advise

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 22-7-2011 16:27 ]

Wow...all hail Father SEAJ.

That is some really good advice and I wish everyone could read this post. Since thereare alot of people asking the same question of if they should start mongering, I feel like you should sticky this or add it to the FAQ so everyone could see it.

Agree with SEAJ in the above post.

Somebody like you that young, 21 years old, with no mongering experience, may fall for a WG aka "sinking ship". That's not the direction you want to head into.

Agree hands down with SEAJ...

In any event if you do plan to go ahead...Rumour has it you can get a 'RED' packet once you got poped from ur WG

Lol if I ever get the red packet I do want a refund ...

i think SEAJ has some wise comments above. i only have a few thoughts.

i appreciate you thinking about the situation. you're young and would like some sexual experience...well, every young man does! young women too, although social and cultural situations differ. you're not interested in (or financially set up to) start a family, which means birth-control is a priority. forget WG or civvie, u want a condom on. ideally...but it's a LOT smarter than any other tactic. think about it: u want sexual adventure, not Mini-Me. get that squared away first.

dunoo where yr from, but there are a lot of women your age who would be interested in a young man like you. my advice: get to know them in a social way. often young people do things in groups, this is good. your peers may joke with you (sometimes at your expense), but that's a way to break in your ego. if you're in the right group, things will settle into place.

sometimes it's intimidating, even scary, to talk to women when you're younger. you want to impress them, you want them to like you. this won't always happen. humans will let you down, but HUMANITY won't. it's a matter of meeting a young lady whose company you like. it's not about impressing them with stories of how rich your father is or whatever.

as you've guessed, i'm leaning towards the non-WG experience. two reasons: 1) WGs will always, ALWAYS be around. there are plenty of guys who aren't 21 (think double) and had a girfriend who became a wife, then a mother and maybe now has a job. she's no longer the hottie they fell for, they may not be interested in that pesky penis any longer. or, the reverse. for THOSE guys, WGs offer a great fantasy situation. the WG experience isn't about conversation or society, it's about a sexual service, hopefully delivered with skill by someone who finds enjoyment in their job. because it is a job.

2) the civvie experience is part of life, society and friendship. yes, there are one-night no-strings-attached experiences, but in general, women are seeking something in a relationship. feelings come into play (they do with WGs too, but the circumstances are more limiting) and it's much, MUCH better to fall in love/bust up with a civvie GF than a WG. assuming you don't get married (find out just what will happen to you when you get divorced BEFORE you propose). sure, some marriages work out. but if it's all sweetness and light, why are their "pre-nuptial marriage agreements").

you're a long way from that. you're a young, likely shy young guy who worries he doesn't fit in, women won't talk to him, etc. welcome to the human race! try to find people you can hang out with it: male and female. like most things, it gets easier with practice, but TALK to the women. don't even mention dates/kissing/sex--if others do, laugh it off. if you can chat with a woman, and she LAUGHS, u will have some interesting civvie-encounters, maybe with her, maybe not with her. women like men who like them laugh. start there...once you can make it happen more often, you'll get more confident, and women like men who are confident. seriously, life's lessons are more important than just having sex with someone. for someone like me, WGs are the way to go. but i think if you take the more accepted/standard/difficult path, the journey will be much more rewarding.

WGs are great, but when i was 21 they weren't even in my universe. i went out there and messed up repeatedly, had all sort of adventures good and bad, and yes, i got laid a lot. wouldn't trade it for anything.fortunately i never got anyone pregnant, and as i grew older, i learned of a fuller spectrum. but i've had wonderful female friends i never would have known if i hadn't become used to talking to women. i still enjoy it: i flirt with most of my female co-workers, find out their hobbies, they tease me and i tease 'em back. women are great. WGs are fun to talk to (this isn't something yr gonna get at Coronet Court), but you're not there yet and it may not be your thing anyway. find some women your age and chat with them--often this is easier in a group, as women know that men have one thing on their minds at age 21 and it ain't cooking the perfect omelet. eventually you'll have a one-on-one convo with a real live girl, and when u get there, summon your acting skills and pretend you DON'T have nothing but sex on the brain. find something else to talk about.

we're mongers, we all have our different situations, but we have begun our journeys and in most cases, are well on our way. you're just starting. find someone you have something in common and start the conversation. you'll make mistakes. when the time comes and you make a pass at someone and get rejected, it won't be fun. chalk it up to experience and carry on.

we humans learn by making mistakes. get out there and make some. don't let them get you down for more than a day or two, make some adjustments. then get back out there. best of luck!

JtB

ok... i'll bite, since this a forum for debate, i'll put on the other foot
pro - wg first time experience

i would like to say that it wasn't too long ago when i was 21, situation is that i'm not
and growing with the times have made me stand back and think twice about everything
certainly my lifestyle has change to adapt with the fast pace environment
time is no longer my friend and trying to meet someone new may not be the best option available at hand
the generation today is all about living the moment now now now where everything is all result based
and like that, hitting up wg means no need for exhausted efforts chasing tails for a date in order to 'score'
we all know the end result;
step1. the hurdle in the beginning is finding someone (hopefully someone you are attracted to),
step2. strike up interest to attract the opposite sex doing the song and dance
step3. shell out expenses for the actual date (movie, dinner, event etc?!?)
step4. depending on your chemistry, you 'may' actually get some action, good night kiss to keep you wanting more or 'sorry, didn't work' <-- repeat step1 (quite tiring if you keep striking out)
step5. extended courtship, meet the friends and parents then and only then you may be able get a taste of the honey pot
*repeat action requires accumulation of browny points, meaning be a good boy and do as you're told (may = no fun)

some players are fortunate enough to hit up cat walk models and the like, not likely an option for your first time
so your first time with someone your own age 'may' not be as satisfactory as initially thought
both inexperienced any may not be memorable as fantasied about over the years
your first roped civvi 'may' not be of first choice, but willing to settle for proposition of sex
why settle for second best?

taking the option with wg will guarantee results (we'll.... sort of)
the formula is simple: situation at hand is to complete (a) transaction(s). moneys is exchanged for service rendered
there are no uncertainties involved, guaranteed results, no uncharted waters, bullet proof plans of getting laid
in many cases, this proposition can be cheaper than dates (that i've been on)
everyone must agree here where this is a cost effective method for results
cut through all the rubbish, get the results you want

obviously it is in the wg best interest to offer the best experience and will most likely comply with requests where repeat business is good business
competition is fierce and there's no shortage on choices
don't think you're missing out either, gf experience can be bought where you reap all the benefits without the drama and baggage in the morning
too many times we see bros in the street carrying hand bags in misery
too many times we see bros feeling the pain in their hip pocket carrying shopping bags that aren't for themselves
too many times we see bros drinking their sorrows away at the bar cause they've become emotionally attached when its all over

there are plenty to pick and choose from in the world of wg to cater for all sorts of turn-on's, fetishes and fantasies; the only limitation is how deep is your wallet
imho, you can always replace money, where the fallacy concept of love has to be earn
so work harder for more options, money opens more doors
perhaps would even open doors to the mulan catwalk models, porn stars and celebrities?

without getting too carried away, say you are able to find that special someone
and bro wants to impress them in the sack, so you're under alot of pressure to perform the first time around
anxiety sets in, too many variables can go wrong; such as lack of / too much foreplay / stimulation
before you know it, its all over... and you've wondered what's all the fuss was all about
you didn't get the get the sensation that everyone ga-ga'ed about
everybody understands the concept where practice makes perfect, wg is certainly a viable option

we all have different reasons where mongering becomes a probably option to unleash our basic instincts
many a times, we think with the wrong head, not that there's anything wrong, but we just do
being your first experience, wouldn't you want it to be memorable?
everybody has acid stories about their first time; where both parties are intoxicated, inexperienced and fornication becomes tainted and even less likely for repeat
not exactly a kodak moment worth trifling over is it?
the cumbersome trotter can be replaced with a professional in the trade and grant you that magical carpet exactly the way you've always imaged it
where you will stand out in the crowd where you can be proud of YOUR first experience
and lets not forget to mention the ego boost and confidence in the morning

let's cut to the chase, end result is simple really, bro gets laid choosing the path with wg

*this is certainly by no means my personal view... just from a different perspective*

I would tell anyone, virgin or not, who was seriously questioning whether he should punt or not to forget it and walk away from the scene.  If you were 35 and still a virgin I'd say pay up and get that release..., but at 21 you are just starting.  

There is NOTHING like the courting-dance between two civvies.  Nothing that makes your heart pump faster and your senses come alive than that moment just before your first kiss, your first touch, with that sweet girl you've been dying to talk to for months.  It is worth pursuing and worth waiting for BEFORE you take the easy way out and pay for a hooker.

Punting, my freind, is addictive.  You can easily use it as a crutch instead of putting in the effort a real relationship requires.

Good luck...

Wow! This forum never ceses to amaze me! When I first found this board, I thought I'd be reporting to a bunch of sicko pervs whp got of reading dirty stories posted by others... I have to say I was (and still AM) pleasently mistaken in that assumption. I got into mongering because my hot lil wife has gone cold... Getting a bit better now, but the thrill of easy sex with hot girls IS addictive! As many of you may already be aware of, I browse and post on this forum nearly every day. It's because of the comradery and acceptance I find here.

I agree with many of the brps though, your first time SHOULD be meaningful, but all of us are different, so we can't say a WG won't be meaningful for you... But you just have tp be careful of that sinking ship. I'm sure many guys (and I'm sure MOST girls) feel a "special" bond with thier first partner, which could be not-so-good if that first is a professional. I don't think your fist time has to (and very likely WON.'T be) earth shattering, but it will lilely stay fresh in your mind for a good long while. My first time was in the restricted access stairwell to the roof in my high school when I was 16 whe me and the girl skipped class to go out and smoke. It was by NO means what I had dreamed it would be and I often though "what's the big fuss about?" It really wasn't that great and it was definately not romantic or anything... But now, many MANY moons later, I had some great lays, some lousy ones and everything in between. Booth with civvies and recently with WGs.

As much as fucking hot WG is fun, NOTHING tops the passionate sex I get when my wife is in the mood! I feel like my brain will explode and every nerve in my body goes into overload. I find it hard to beleive tou can acheive that kind of mind numbing vliss wrought from years of close intimacy with your SO in a WG.

Bottom line, do what feels right for YOU! Make your decision, and live with the results... Good OR bad. Just remember- you only get ONE first time. Make it count.

[ Last edited by  onidragon at 30-7-2011 17:00 ]

Theres alot of good advice here. if I were you (although I would never advise anyone to use me as a rolemodel) I'd get some experience with non-wg girls, have your heart broken (if your unlucky), break some hearts and have some fun times with girls you care about where money is never an issue.

in a way this will help you (I won't use the word mature as its patronising) grow in how you relate to a woman so that even when it is a business deal you can approach the situation with a level head and heart. You may end up meeting the girl of your dreams and never wanting to visit a wg but you will gain alot of perspective.

good luck whichever direction you choose

I think you should not do it if this is your first time with a girl and I think my opinion will be the same as some here. Im not trying to be all lovey dovey but having your first time with non wg girl (especially one you have a heart on) is something I guess you need to experience first. Just so you know what youre getting into, because judging by your questions, I think you are not familiar being with a girl(not trying to offend)let alone mongering. Its better not to get your first time with lots of problems you might regret just because you dont know what to do. Or worst, you might end up always looking for an easy way out and it might affect your normal life aside from mongering(Im talking bout treating a non wg the same way you would treat a wg when you relate to a girl), saw it first hand.

It might not be my place to give you lectures as Im yet to monger myself but I'll go with investor's advice if I were you. Good luck

[ Last edited by  toufu at 2-8-2011 00:59 ]