Was just wondering whether Chinese HGs treat Foreigners differently from Local punters.

I'm just wondering how anyone would ever know ... I mean if you're Chinese you can't know how they treat Foreigners ... and vice versa

OK in my more paranoid moments I imagine every slight hesitation and fleeting facial expression to be symptoms of an underlying racial bias

But in my saner moments, judging by the reports, and taking writing style into account, I can't see any difference myself.  Even those girls who initially look scared then go on to give good service ...

The only way I think to answer this is when you have a local and a expat in action at the same time. Dundas Str KTV (Golden) courtesy of my travel agent. In the room 3 locals, and 3 expats (me andmy mates). My observations are as follows...

The girls seemed a lot more at ease, friendly, and amenable to the locals. I think the language helped, as well as the fact that for about the first five minutes they were fairly hands off. Well for 3 minutes. Then it was carnage. Cock, tits, pussy everywhere. Also I would say that local cocks can be big and small, and yes seemed to be "harder". However, none of the locals delivered the amount of congee that me and my friend splattered onto one girls face.

It did really fuck us off though when we went back the next night (without the local guoides) and were not let in. And a few days later... and then a week later....we went with my friends again and it was welcome arms. I mean jesus..... that really fucks me off if I think about it.

It's been a long time since I've visited a HG in HK. In China, particularly the smaller towns, most of the SGs and KTV girls have never had sex with a foreigner and are obviously quite afraid to try, thinking that they're too big. Guess, once they've tried a foreigner, the fear factor goes away. Yes, language is always a factor and think HGs perform better if you're able to communicate effectively with them, regardless of race.

[ Last edited by  geoduck at 26-7-2010 21:57 ]

I am still a novice, but I think the 2 areas where I have perceived a difference (real or not) from the reports and my experiences are:
1) Communication. Foreign guys usually have a harder time building rapport than local guys or Mandarin speakers. For guys that just want a fuck, this isn't a big deal, but for guys wanting GFE, it makes it a little harder to be satisfied.

2) Cock size. I know most girls say to all the guys, "you so big", but I think with foreigners the girls are more willing to follow that up with a glob of KY or an unwillingness to do some positions or to do them for a long time. Please understand, I am not saying that all foreigners are bigger than locals, I know they're not, because I am not.

I also agree with geoduck that girls that arrive in HK for the first time might not have ever had a white guy before and thus are a little apprehensive.

This is an interesting point. I don't think the word should be "obviously" but "unfortunately". In reality, my experiences there were interesting because me and my mates, all veteran global whorers, were having fun, singing, being flattering, joking, amorous, and generally having what I see as a good time anf trying to ensure the girls did also. The local guys, all friends by the way so I can say this and have to their face, basically treated the girls like lumps of meat. Walking over to girls, getting their tits and pussys out, man handling them like weighing a couple of oranges or a slab of fillet, pushing them around, and then pounding the shit out of them non stop whilst the girls had the "jeese I wish he'd hurry up look" on his face. I tend to think in these situations that maybe we are ambassadors for expats perhaps and convert more girls each time. After all, if I was whoring my body, regardless of size, I would prefer the men to be nice, relaxed, jokey, flirty, dignified (? if you can in an orgy) and treating them with as much respect possible. Creating a rich seam of WMW (white man woman) haha.

Just wonder what would happen if my black mate came with us? I get the feeling either he wouldn't be let in, or the KTV would be completely vege.

Black, white or yellow. One should always respect the girl.
Paying them does not mean you have the rights to handle them like shit.

Just thought I would share my thoughts.

I'm suprised actually, I always thought there was some exoticism about doing someone of another race. I certainly dated more european girls in the UK than I did chinese. I'm sure bros here from the UK or US prefer our oriental chicks as well. Although WGs, as their job dictates, probably try to get it done quick and preserve their energy.

But I agree with bro ramont, language and cock size. Without the former you could'nt convince the girl that the latter would'nt be so much of a problem!!

"sucki sucki" and "me love you long time" can only get you so far!

On a serious note, I don't think it should matter, some black guys must have microscopic wieners, whilst a chinese dude might have a dragon of a shlong. Its just generalisations and stereotypes that make certain individuals perceive something in a certain way. I've met a few WGs that tell me theyve never slept with a foreigner cos of their size, so she must be sending them away.

[ Last edited by  hkjiggy at 27-7-2010 10:25 ]

It's always the fear of the unknown, though I'm not sure I would really classify it as fear. I think it's the unfamiliarity and potential language issues that make a WG perhaps less receptive to non-locals.

this thread seems a pretty complete recap of previous discussions on the topic.

Of course, even if you have The Definitive And Scientifically Accurate Answer to the question, it's actually not much use to know it.  
Why?  
Because the real underlying question is not how do they treat foreigners, but instead "How will an HG treat me?"

And that, as we all know, has much less to do with race than it has to do with personal chemistry.  

Probably 80% in the attitude and personality of the punter (Foreign or Local)
and 20% in the attitude and personality of the girl

Realities are
  some girls, and some agents, are indeed racist (aren't we all, in our darkest moments?) but it's mostly based on ignorance and fear, which can be handled
  conversely an HG in Hong Kong is very clear she needs to give good service to all her visitors, and her agent will give her limited flexibility for being choosy

No matter what the underlying prejudices and fears are, they go out of the window one second after "Hello", and from there on the interaction is unique to the two of them and how they're feeling that day.

Although I have not experienced any blatant difference there was one amusing thing happened about 12 months ago when I was in Hangzhou.  Was with two Chinese colleagues and we were approached by a good looking street walker WG and she was having a conversation with them for a few minutes as we walked along and then they all started laughing and looking at me.  Of course I was anxious to know what was happening.

Apparently she had propositioned both my colleagues but they told her they were married and not interested.  Not to lose out totally, she then asked them 'What about the Westerner - surely he does not have a wife here'.  I suspect the horrible guys told her 'No - he is gay' so that she would leave us alone.

There you go, you summarise well.


Like to add :

1) Experienced HGs in HK loves overseas punters.
- more tips and they can be a real gentleman.


2) Newbies HGs/firstimer in HK, will reject non-chinese customers.
- Fobia and ignorance.


3) 1 & 2 above, they all love Hongkies' dicks!!!

HK seemed okay to me, but I felt very much on the outer with the girls at the Lisboa and Venetian in Macau. They would swarm over the asian bros but avoid making eye contact with me!

This is kinda one of my concerns.  I'm a big guy, not a huge cock, just a big guy in general.  My penis size is average.. But I'm worried I'll never get passed the door because the WG will be afraid I'm packing a cannon.  

Suggest you carry a nude picture of yourself when you go hunting for Chinese WGs to reassure them before hand you do not have a tool of mass destruction.

When I was about to select my first sauna girl from a lineup at
Supreme Sauna I simply took the liberty of telling the manager who was standing next to me that he could tell the girls that anyone not really into being with a "foreigner" (white male caucasen) diidnt  
have to stay in the lineup. Of some 15 girls lined up only one of
them ( a very small Chinese girl I assume) smiled and left the lineup. I just didnt want to take the chance of picking someone who just
wasnt going to be in to me.

May I could get some bros to translate into Mandarin and Canto:  "My penis is not huge.  Do not fear!" lol

Decided to give Google translate a go.  Did this translate correctly?

我的阴茎并不大。 不要害怕！

I love it! I have a vague recollection of an old movie I saw - can't remember which - about American soldiers during the Vietnam War. A group of them are all sitting around, one at a time shaggig a hooker. It comes to a big black dudes time, but she refuses him, until he shows her that his dick is not too big!  

It was Platoon I believe and the soldier called his cock the "Alabama Black Snake"...