Back in October before I discovered this form, I was in the Jiangmen/Xinhui region of China where I stayed at the Golden Phoenix. While wondering the halls, I saw that a spa was attached to the hotel. After going up to my room and settling in, I decided to check this place out. I ended up going twice during my stay.

The spa is nice enough, they make you shower and change into what I call "spa" clothes before they let you in. I don't speak a word of mandarin but my cantonese is good enough, so for some of the attendants I had to use hand signals.

The first girl I saw was skinny and dark skinned. Spoke cantonese well enough for us both to communicate. 15 minutes into the massage, I'm like shit, maybe this isn't one of those places with a happy ending. 30 minutes later she proves me wrong as she starts stroking my cock. I didn't have the courage to try anything though because this seemed like a legit massage parlor. She finished me off and I ended up leaving.

The next day I return and get a different girl. This girl seemed to be in her early 20s. Nice C cups. She massages me and is much more sensual. She grabs my cock right away and asks me how I knew to take off my shorts at the beginning. I'm definitely feeling some good vibes from this one. As she strokes my cock I start moving my hand up her skirt, eventually groping/massaging her thigh. At this point she even unzips her polo a little exposing more of those C cups to me. When the stroking go real intense I started to rub her pussy through her panties and I could feel that she was getting all hot and wet down there but then she hit me with the don't touch me down there. Needless to say, I got worried again and stopped. I'm a foreigner, relatively speaking (I am Chinese), I didn't want to risk her screaming and have the rest of the attendants charging in. So once again, I was finished with an HJ...

My question for you is bros, how far can you typically go in one of these places? Is there more than just HJs? I was feeling good vibes from the second chick, a sort of no means yes but I got scared again. What do you think?

It's difficult to know how far to push it but I always proceed with extreme caution. Handjobs are often the norm and sometimes there's a bit of croping allowed. However, one piece of good advice from one of the moderators here (I think it's Twice) says that the more you build up a relationship with one of these girls the more you get.

I visit a massage place in Shanghai where a handjob is the norm but no touchy feely is really allowed. I now see just one girl who once the door is closed DFK's, takes her top off allows me to finger her and I am sure eventually I will end up fucking her and she still gives me an excellent massage. The best thing is that she doesnt even want a tip even though I have tried, she leaves the room whilst I am showering and waits for me outside untile I come out to pay the bill which is 208rmb!!

So, persevere. Once you find a good one, keep seeing her and eventually the ice will melt!

if HJ is offered,  usually free roaming is allowed.
but in your case, maybe the girl is having period.
so far, that's the only reason i get when pussy roaming is rejected during HJ massages.

you shld have asked why she stopped u.

or you should have gone to a proper 健康 sauna instead of a 保健 one.
JiangMen should have plenty of that.

My biggest problem is that I don't speak mandarin. It's weird, even in the South most of these girls speak mandarin. Where can I find some locals that speak canto? I've also read that some members of the board bring an iPhone to translate. Has anybody actually tried that? Does it work?

i remember my first visit to "bai hua zhou xiu xian hui suo" in shenzhen.

it was a massage + HJ place for 208rmb (90mins)

had this really cute and young girl service me.

i was persistent enough to skip the HJ and instead i was giving her DIGITS. followed by MISH.

tipped her an extra 200rmb, she came out to eat dinner after work. i think she was happy.

havent heard from her again...

How do you tip the girl when most of these places make you lock up your things before showering?

健康 sauna instead of a 保健 one

Is that the difference? I never knew that was the way to tell between a legit and shoddy sauna! Thanks bro.

They type of places we are referring to on this thread don't make you lock your things up, you shower and get changed in the room so your things are alwats with you.

For the establishments where you put your things in a locker, invariably you will be given a clear plastic wallet to put your vaulables in which you then carry round with you, you can just stick your wallet in there

as mentioned by some members in other threads, stuff a few bucks inside your cell phone or cig. box in case ;) .  No need to carry whole wallet & making you paranoid

Thanks for the advice bros. I'll be sure to deploy some of these tactics or just go to the right places next time I'm in China or HK.