Subject: Police raids HK/MACAU/CHINA
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Post at 6-11-2015 22:58  Profile P.M. 
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Police raids HK/MACAU/CHINA

This question probably been popped up many times. I want to ask if any one actually been caught by the police while in action with a girl in the room?
If you get caught what will the police do? will you be put in jail or be reported?
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Nothing would happen in HK/Macau as punting is legal here.

In China, you can be jailed up to 15 days.

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bohica   12-11-2015 22:52  Acceptance  +1   And get the obligatory mark on your passport banning future visits.
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3P or crazier stuff however is illegal and criminal in all three places and can potentially lead to long prison term. So think twice before trying these.
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Reply #3 ymc's post

more then 2 people in a 141 walk up room is illegal, but you can have 3p, 4p or 8p anywhere other then in a walk up room ...

btw, why think about me before trying ???  

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For China, it is highly recommended to go to reputable 4 star hotels or higher.  For those, usually cops don't go there for raid, unless they think you have drugs.

I asked a KTV agent I know about this, basically, the rule is if the hotel arranged by the KTV, it is 100% safe or if the hotel you stay at is a 4 star hotel or higher/ foreign chain hotel (like IHG group hotels) usually there are no raids there, unless they believe you have drugs.

if you are keeping a girl for the whole night, and you are afraid of raids, they say you should consider registering the girl's name with the concierge.  It helps in the sense that cops won't bother you if they believe you know the person you are staying with.
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Post at 8-11-2015 23:28  Profile P.M. 
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Check my old post about Macau, I was in Sanado when the place was raided. And the cops even went to the back in the rooms. Fortunately I think they got a tip off and there did not appear to be anyone inside.

Anyways, sitting in the lounge chair I was shitting bricks, and already trying to remember the number for my lawyer incase I needed one, but they appear to only target locals or PRC customers for questioning.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by long_jonny at 6-11-2015 22:58
This question probably been popped up many times. I want to ask if any one actually been caught by the police while in action with a girl in the room?
If you get caught what will the police do? will  ...

RAIDS can happen even in 4 to 5 star hotels.  It is usually some in house person like a manager or bellboy finking on you but It is very rare even 4 to 5 star hotel.

This is a .link for pictures on a raid early Nov 2015 Southern China.

http://news.163.com/15/1107/10/B7QGI78G00014AEE.html#sns_qzone

  11月6日报道,11月4日下午,宁夏银川公安在“扫黄”行动中抓获卖淫嫖娼人员25名。发现有多名外来男子让妻子接客,自己在外放风。而其中一名男子不但让自己的妻子卖淫,还胁迫年近60岁的母亲接客


  在11月4日的“扫黄”行动中,兴庆区公安分局民警一举抓获卖淫嫖娼人员25名。其中13名失足妇女分别来自湖南、河南、甘肃、四川、湖北等地,年龄从18岁到50岁的都有。[!--empirenews.page--]


  记者在采访中发现,有多名外来男子让妻子卖淫,每当妻子接客时,男子就在外面放风。其中一名男子不但让自己的妻子卖淫,还胁迫年近60岁的母亲卖淫。经连夜审查,警方已将其中1名容留妇女卖淫犯罪嫌疑人刑事拘留,5名嫖娼人员和13名卖淫女予以治安处罚。

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by arashii at 8-11-2015 23:28
Check my old post about Macau, I was in Sanado when the place was raided. And the cops even went to the back in the rooms. Fortunately I think they got a tip off and there did not appear to be anyone  ...

Why were you so frightened? You were in the midst of 3P?
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Around 8 years ago, I was at a walk up around 11am, picked the girl and was in the process of getting out of the shower when I heard a loud knock on the door. It seems the girl was followed up by plain clothes cops who waited until we had started to knock on the door, probably to make their case for the arrest stronger, while we were technically not in the act were already naked and getting ready to get down.  I was quite nervous at this point being in the room thinking it was one of those full on raids with dozens of cops and and media outside.  I had also been aware of the presence of plainclothes in these areas and their jobs to routinely check and card girls on the street and in the brothels so i was hoping it was one of those routine checks instead.

The cop at the door asked us to get dressed and led us to the recieving area where there were two more cops talking to the guy behind the desk. They were talking to him, it was not a friendly conversation but they weren't holding him at gunpoint either.   Once we were situated, one of the cops spoke to the girl in Mandarin she nodded her head and started to cry. At the same time one other cop told me I was in a brothel, I tried to explain I thought it was just a massage but the guy just shook his head and explained they were arresting the girl for violating the terms of her visa by working there. They took my number and carded me, I tried giving a fake number at first but they called it and made me give the real one, I'm lucky they didn't find that grounds to arrest me right there.  After all that they quickly waked down the stairs with the girl. I stayed behind for a minute having a drink of water trying to calm myself.  The guy behind the desk asked me if I wanted another girl after that. I just looked at him and left.


I guess that was a routine check for people abusing their tourist visas rather than anything else, pretty straight forward, the third cop even seemed bored.  I'm not sure how things work but these visa checks seem to be performed regularly but independent from vice raids where they rush in and arrest everyone involved.

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Weelock   11-11-2015 23:11  Acceptance  +1   Where did this happened. It sounds like Hong Kong or Shenzhen since you said visa
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Reply #9 illwill2's post

it was a walk up with a guy behind a desk ?

that doesn't add up ... in brothels, there are guys behind desk but not for walk ups (except if there is a security station at the entrance to the building)

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Caligynephiliac   12-11-2015 13:56  Acceptance  +3   I was wondering the same thing.
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Sorry, i meant brothel. I often overlook the difference.



It was in Mk.
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Reply #11 illwill2's post

Brothel you will get hassled or more when the cops visit, 141 rooms you will not
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Reply #6 arashii's post

in macau its normally just license checks

I remember being in East Spa a few years back, and suddenly all the girls from sanado turned up and there was a huge overflow of full service and massage girls

My friends and i were in the small pool with girls a little later, when the Police turned up and one of the officers came over to reassure us that there was no problem, and carry on with what we were doing
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They will inform your embassy if you are caught. No problem if it is legal in your country. However, if not, criminal procedures might be initiated upon return from travel.In such a case, getting citizenship of a country which allows it is the only way. It is well known that hotel guys do side work as informants for intelligence agencies due to low pay.

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stinkyfeet   21-6-2017 13:46  Acceptance  +5   You make it sound like every bellboy is a chinese james bond. I don't think so
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Reply #14 raradidi's post

Three years ago when the great crackdown of 2014 central was handing out big reward tipoffs to anyone ratting on any john bringing in prostitutes in the hotel. Hardly the intelligence employed informant like you stated. Anyone that is chinese could do it. Hell even your grandmom could call up the hotline and rat someone off.  As of the past three years I haven't heard that since. I'm guessing the reward is now expired.

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Hotel staff actually have very little incentive to  report you to authorities. Yes, they might get a reward, but then ....1.. if the management finds out, they will likely find some excuse to let that person go and 2. If hotel has bad business, it means they will employ fewer people... And the informant might still be let go even if management doesn't find out.

As long as you're not a dick about it, there's little reason for someone to inform on your activities. I won't go so far as to say it won't happen.... But there's very little incentive to do so. Hotels exist to make money. I don't think they care who is in the rooms so long as 1. The room gets paid for and 2. You don't disturb other guests.

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jmark   22-6-2017 15:11  Acceptance  +1   Plus there might have been more than one room
p0ison   22-6-2017 01:01  Acceptance  +2   Sry, confused. I thought as long as you are with one girl it is legal in HK? So what is the talk about ratting and arres ...
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first time caller long time lurker. i am trying to plan a trip back to asia, or more so, back to hong kong. But i been to hong kong 3x time now. Really want to try out china, but i didn't know prostitute was illegal there...

regardless, where should i go that is an upgrade from hong kong walk ups?

Macau?
China? if so, which city?
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Reply #9 illwill2's post

It was a brothel. There was a guy at a desk and he arranged girls to come in.
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Reply #7 Weelock's post

What I read on some Chinese sites (Shanghai night life specifically) is that if it is your room ( only applicable if you are in areal legit hotel), it is almost impossible for the police to prove that the girl is an escort, unless you or the girl give yourself up.

If you stick to a story of "she's my girlfriend", "I met her at the bar and we are having a great night" etc, there is little they can do.

I tend to ask girls to come dressed conservatively or casual, as to not trigger attention.

I am not sure the police can forcefully gain access to the room either. In any case if someone knocks at the door whilst your in the middle of it, get you cloth on, keep your condom on under your underwear and act as if she really was your girlfriend or night conquest.

Then pray for the best!
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@p0ison... Sorry... I meant for China.

@tarasse... It's sadly not what you say, but what the LEs choose to believe when you're in China. When it comes to what's going on in your room.... It's like poker night / mhjohng. Technically, it's gambling and it's illegal. Chances are, LEs aren't going to come and raid a friendly game between friends. That being said... If you've been a dick, and they really want to come after you... Doesn't matter that no money has changed hands... The fact that you have a MJ set out and 4 people sitting around it, is evidence enough. As is... You have a naked girl in your hotel room. So it's more whether or not they believe you than what comes out of your mouth.

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