Subject: Dating a 141 girl
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Dating a 141 girl

Hi guys,
I would like to know who have already dated seriously a 141 girl? and what was the outcome in the end ?
I met a few weeks ago a 141 girl who just started  in this business (supposedly, when you asked them all the girls seem to just start their job two months ago ).
We really have great talk, fun too outside the sex part. She really like me hugging her, kiss me etc...
Sometimes we also have dinner together after "work".
This week, because of her menstruation, she could not work but she accept to have a drink with me last tuesday. We ended up at my place kissing for like two hours, and then she gave me a BBBJ for free without me asking for it. She even swallowed.
How would you interpret her behaviour? does she have feelings for me? Is it quite often for 141girls to see their clients outside work from time to time?

As for myself I do have feelings for her. She is a great woman and she is just doing this job to help her sister (currently being treated for a cancer) living in Mainland.

Appreciate if some bros could share their own experience.

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Post at 23-9-2007 01:56  Profile P.M. 
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Bro, turn and run away - fast. You're heading for trouble. Oh, and btw, they all have a sob story - hers is a sister being treated for
cancer. I could be wrong but I don't think so.   

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Girls in this industry all have a sob story.  Whether true or not, I don't think any of them have chosen this profession for any reason other than the fact they get paid more for this than working in a factory.  

Some of them need higher pay, because of a legitimate sob story, some of them are just lieing greedy cunning little whores.  

I wouldn't trust any of them.  They're all looking for a sponsor (sucker).
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Hate to agree with ya bro, but it's all true. I knew one girl in Manila for about 3 years. Went with her multiple times, took her on
trips, even went to her home village to meet her family. Then I told her I was going to be transferred to another country. Woke
up in the morning and she'd left with as much of my stuff as she could carry. Even took the gold necklace from around my neck.
            
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I really doubt the 141 ladies enjoy their job, in their right mind, who would enjoy long hours living in a small dodgy quarter waiting for sex hunger cavemen to come and pound them.  Any given client could carry a virus... its a vindictive and unforgiving industry.... so to say each girl has a sob story to tell is very ironic. These girls are not high class escorts, they are offering men to come wear and tear their pussy for a reason other than fortune and in Oppas case... your one of many potential tickets out the game.

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Originally posted by Jake at 23-9-2007 02:46
Hate to agree with ya bro, but it's all true. I knew one girl in Manila for about 3 years. Went with her multiple times, took her on
trips, even went to her home village to meet her family. Then I to ...

damn... what if you had woken in the middle of it?...   
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I totally agree with Mefatboy.
Of course, some 141girls might be like Jake's Manilla girl (dude i m sorry for that episode btw).
I once fucked a 141girl who asked me to lend her 25000 HKD !!! She was crazy, I refused of course.
Re. the girl i am crazy about right now, well, if i am her ticket out of the game, that would be great for both of us.
Her story seems sincere. When she told me about her sister's cancer treatment in details, it was very realistic ( i know coz my mom died of a cancer).
In fact, she is currently in holidays for 3 weeks to go back in mainland to give the money to her sister and visit her. She plans to stop prostitution very soon when her sister will no longer need treatment (fortunately the cancer was at a very early stage).
Moreover she does seem to be a regular 141girl coz she does not have a permanent 141place. she change buildings all the time.
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Reply #1 oppa_hk's post

never get emotionally involved with a 141 girl;

it's not worth it

fcuk and pay, that's all






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There is nothing wrong with "dating" a 141 girl.  You can get some free sex and a lot of them are probably fun and cool people for companionship.  Just don't get serious.  Remember than while she's dating you, she's fucking dozens of men every week.
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Reply #9 furryfriend's post

nothing is for free
fcuk and pay
dating ? that is not the problem; getting emotional involved is ................................






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Reply #9 furryfriend's post

The thing is if i date her, i will ask her to stop prostitution. As i said before, she is a newbie in this field and already want to stop very soon. So what do think then about getting involved with her bearing in mind that new fact?

We all have dark episodes in our life and I don't mind her past. What I would not accept is that she would keep fucking dozens of bros while dating with me.
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You've received plenty of advice bro, but the decision is your. I assume you're talking about potential marriage as it wouldn't
be fair to ask a girl to give up her job just for a few dates. And it's tough enough to make a marriage work without all her
previous history. A successful marriage depends a lot on mutual respect. Ultimately, how can you respect a girl who sold her
body?
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First, this post is not directed at anyone; these are just my thoughts on the subject.

We all have personal experiences that have shaped our opinions. However, every situation is unique. I try never to give advice on anything important, because I'm not wise enough, and I do not want the responsibility. Even if the guy asks for advice, all you can say is be careful. I know nothing about this guy, it might be that the girl is perfect for him. He could certainly make a big difference in her life. Or she may be just using him. Who knows?

The Whore and the Monger are two halves of the same whole. To despise these girls is very hypocritical. You simply cannot judge people because you are not them, and you have no idea what circumstances lead anyone to make the choices they have. I am very grateful to have the opportunity to screw these beautiful young women. But we're on shaky moral gound here.  I know at least one girl who has been pressured by her mainland husband to sell herself here in HK to make money for the family (hopefully not for his gambling debts, etc.). So what does that make me? Am I not taking advantage of her unhappy situation? To turn around a sneer at her for being a prostitute would be contemptible. For my own peace of mind, I perfer to think that these are just rational girls who have made an economic decision about the quickest way to wealth, beyond that, I really don't want to go because I'm a moral coward.

Everyone lies - we even lie to ourselves.

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Reply #12 Jake's post

I see your point, Jake.
I think I would be able to respect her despite her having sold her body.
Anyway, I was just asking, I am not even sure she would accept dating me seriously.
Thanks bros for all your advice.
Will let you know the outcome.
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Reply #13 Marsupial's post

"To despise these girls is very hypocritical."

don't agree with your statement; try mine;

To despise these girls is very wrong.

There is a local saying; allow to try and translate;

you laugh at the poor but not at the prostitute.

Reason why you don't despite the girls; They are making an honest living; they don't rob or cheat anyone. As for the reason why they choose this trade; who knows?

and if any of the girls tell you about their sad story, take it with a pinch salt.






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Reply #11 oppa_hk's post

did you read wayno1979's response ?

just remember one thing;

whatever your decision is, you have to bear the full responsibilities  

good luck






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Reply #13 Marsupial's post

Interesting post, but why introduce morality. Girls who sell their bodies are not moral. The guys who pay are not moral. I'm not a hypocrite because I accept the fact that I'm not a
moral person and that I've done a lot of bad things in my life. This is my deep, dark secret. I have a vice and I'm just too weak a person to resist it. In fact, I don't want to resist it and have never tried.    The best we can do is accept it and try to live the rest of our lives in the best way we can. I try to do a lot of good stuff to balance the Karma and maybe
go to heaven - if there is one. I certainly don't despise the girls - if I did I'd have to despise myself. What you say is correct ... "The Whore and the Monger are two halves of the
same whole." We're exactly the same.

Your last sentence - never lie to yourself bro.
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Reply #17 Jake's post

well said; except there's one thing I don't agree personally;

I prefer going to hell

that's where the naughty girls go .................................................






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Reply #16 sulasno's post

Yes I did and I totally understand Wayno1979's point. I am not saying i will rush in this thing. I will carefully progress one step by another and see her attitude towards money. I will make clear that if she is looking for a sponsor, I am definitely not the right guy to target.

Sure I will take full responsability. You guys here are all advising a very cautious approach, I would not blame you if it goes wrong
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Reply #15 sulasno's post

Of course, you should take what ANYONE says with a very large grain of salt. My point is simply that I am very reluctant to give advice when I know absolutely nothing about either the guy or the girl involved. And have you ever noticed that when we know someone really well, it is even harder to give advice? That's because with more complete knowledge of all the conflicting details things are suddenly not so black and white. Conversely, the less we know the easier it is to judge. But in that case our judgment is based on what? statistics? Do we really know that every relationship of a client with a prostitute ends unhappily?

And as far as hypocrisy is concerned, I personally do not believe that uncoerced prostitution is wrong. But prostitution is the buying AND selling of sex. Therefore, to despise the prostitute is hypocritical because you yourself are involved in the very thing you despise. If it is wrong to sell sex, then it is wrong to buy it. It's because the transaction involves sex and all the moral baggage associated with sex that the idea of contempt even enters into the picture.

Imagine a non-sexual situation in which someone engages in a really miserable, dirty activity to acquire a product that you crave and which you gladly purchase. To turn around and despise the guy for his job would be hypocritical. How about theft? A lot of people are more than happy to buy cheap goods they know are stolen, but then they despise the thief - that is hypocrisy.
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