recently met a young woman on CL who says she's from macau trying to enter into the p4p business as a side gig.  she was upfront about it and told me 1500 for 2 hours of whatever i want but that she couldn't host.

judging from her photos she's on the upper end of the plain scale and considering that i'd have to pay for a room i offered to pay her that much in exchange for an overnight encounter.

she called me cheap and when i questioned if her services were that good she told me that there were plenty of men offering to pay her no questions asked and to stop bothering her.

the question is: is it ever worth trying to negotiate with such women or to try and get more information out of them?

or should i stick with the HGs and WGs and the DB?

She is from Macau, but where is the punt taking place?  HK?

1500 for two hours is, IMHO, only a little expensive in Macau.  The racetrack is 1500 but it's shorter time.  In HK I would say it's much too expensive.  If you know the going rate you can tell them and they will usually say they are worth more, but after a little while they will agree to it.  Unfortunately, it is probably true that plenty of stupid guys agree to her 1500 price.

If you are actually arguing with her, then the punt will probably suck.  So try to keep it light, and if she turns on you just cut her loose.

she's in hk. says she's a 19yo uni student. judging from the location she put on her ad, she's at hku. stupidly open with her info, especially considering her photos don't obscure her face.

the negotiating wasn't argumentative, imo. i asked what she was offering, she gave me her rates, i made my counter offer, she called me cheap, i asked her if she was good in bed, she called me cheap again and told me that she didn't need my business.  probably true.  plenty of guys out there willing to pay to spend time with someone in their teens.

ah well.

it's not as if hk has a shortage of women.

Second question may have been a bit silly though, it's not as if she's going to tell you "I'm shit in bed".

i was trying to challenge her to prove she was worth the price. she didn't go for it. claimed that she can charge that much because she's a uni student and only in the p4p biz part time.

seems to me you have two options: cave in, or call her bluff ...

Prognosis is not too good for service - she's clearly feeling entitled, and feels men owe her a debt of gratitude.  My guess is you'd get a much more dependable service spending that much on 2 HGs or 3-4 walkups ...

... but then you wouldn't be fuelling your fantasy of nailing a 19yo student!!

Admit it, it might be worth it just to tick the box
and my hunch is there are indeed a long queue of guys willing to pay 1500 once for just that experience.  

On the flip side, if you say "thanks, sounds like we both have some alternative options, let me know if you change your mind", or maybe offer her a bit more for the overnight ... she might just get back to you.  If she did, the prognosis would be excellent ...

At this point the only other way to handle it would be to switch to good-natured humour, and maybe try to build up a rapport without any pressure to decide either way.  Maybe praise her for being so desirable, how you'll look after her as soon as your boat comes in, etc.

Any more link?

What;s the method of your convo?
Whatapps, wechat, emails or skype?


In the past, there are lots of freelancers in HK, but lots of channels been shut down.
The gals are legits ; students, doing this part time, civvies, etc.

Unlike WGs / Escorts, who spend time nego wit customers. These freelancers are usually less incline to waste time promoting themselves or getting into convo or Q&A session.
If the client is a player and genuine, usually they will not go into much details until the gal is willing to meet up with u.
But of course, back then, there was a platform/forum where ppl/fellow mongers vouch on the gals.

Dont get offended when they scream at your face, calling you "Cheap".
If just the way they try to cut the bullshit when they feel the potential customer is asking too much questions than having the real intent.
IF they dont crap and cut bullshit, then they should be a authentic freelancer.

Best is to ask for their number and speak to them on the phone.
Usually, there is an open option; i.e. once meet, either party has an optioin to say no to the engagement. Walk away, no hard feeling. You pay for the coffee or drop $100 to $200 as taxi ride for her.
That;s how i use to play.
But I also get slammed in the face all the time, them also calling me Cheap......

I find it very rude for her to be saying 'cheap'. We certainly wouldn't respond with a 'Greedy' if we find their prices high, right? There should be an element of courtesy and graciousness here. After all, this is the service industry. So what if she is in high demand now, this 'value' is certain to drop. She will learn to smile and accommodate. Market forces will apply.

I will hang up or delete her the moment she says 'cheap', unless I low-balled her. Anything more than market value I'd like to know where does the premium get me.

If one cant accept their straighforward manner, you aint gonna get into their pants.
Stick to HG/WG.
This HK gals are there for quick money. They would not spent time chit-chat and wasting time negotiating for insignificance discount.
To them, if you cant afford a bargain price at 1K or 2K, and asking for further $50 or $10, then they rather not do business with you. They aint here to treat the customer like a king nor should they show extra respect to the paymaster.
The word cheap is commonly used in HK and among gold digging chicks. So get use to it when trying to hook up a freelancer (HK breed)......

Also depends on the girl, when I stay in HK I sometimes message the girls. They send back their price, sometimes I reply saying too expensive for me, thanks & take care.

Sometimes the girl replies.. How much are you willing to pay..? I make a counter offer, sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Hi bros, don't think it's a good idea to negotiate the price with girls. Girls in this biz is just for money. They might take yr cheaper offer but usually end up with nasty service. If u like the girl, pay for her rate (even if ur regular or repeat). If not, no bother to negotiate or asking her if she is worth it or most likely they will just ignore u - it is not a product that u can judge it by its surface but its more depending the "feeling" when ur "with" her. But freelancer usually with a higher rate and they are quite selective too.

I don't separate HK gals from mainlanders. Actually prefer mainlanders, at least the supply keeps them in line with market prices. I wouldn't pay a premium for HK gals but for Koreans and Japanese, definitely!
But I understand your point. I typically do not haggle as well and I do tip, I just can't stand an arrogant WG or Civvie pricing themselves as if they are so valuable.