I was in the middle of writing some reports for some recent punting I did in the states, and think I stopped because I realized nobody would careto visit who I visited.  Seriously,punting in the states sucks. I did 3 girls in a couple weeks businesson both the east and west coasts. All of them sucked. All for the same reasons. Expensive. Mechanical. Cold. No kissing. Girls obviously bored and disinterested, constantly telling me "oh, I don't do that, oh I can't do that, oh, can you hurry up,oh, blablablabla...." whiny ass entitled white women.

Not one of them was less than $200usd, all of them were fatter/uglier than the pics - and their pics weren't as good as the unedited pics of the WGs you see here on this site. One of them managed to actually smell bad. Another one of them stopped me halfway through to tell me "I'm tired, can you hurry up" seriously. Those exact words.

Seriously, I'm done with American women. Fuck punting in the states. For $50usd, I have been with girls in HK that blow anything available here away, and for $150 I've had experiences that would easily cost $1500 in the states. Even in Japanand Singapore - which arent cheap places to punt - I have gotten great service for less. And in Japan, for under $300 I've has some of the best service of my life. Even Europe offers better service for money. and that doesn't even begin to touch the value for money punting available in the Philippines or Thailand.

Nope. I am done. Every time I think about puntin in the states from now on, I am gonna put the cash in a bottle marked "to be spent on Asian pussy".

/end rant

I feel your pain bro....Once I was in Vegas a couple of years back with some buddies and we were all like hell yeah, we gonna get some chicks tonight. So we went to a strip club and I paid (got hustled) $250 for a 30mins private lap dance.

Still feeling horny, I called one of the girls on the cards that the Hispanic guys give out and paid another $400 for lame sex with a mid 30s trailer lady who told me that I can't ram her too deep cos her ovary hurts. And I'm like "wtf? I've got an asian sized dick!! are you friggin serious??"

So yeah...no more punting in the states. For what I paid that night, I could have had a week's worth of hotties in HK or China. Feel stupid thinking about it now but yeah..chalk it down as a lesson learnt.

Asian countries is all about service Bro...

If you noticed, even the services provided in the Asian hotels (the international branded hotels) are generally better than the west. Most of them will go all out to make us a happy customer...

In the west, no doubt they are professionals in their profession, but sometimes, they becomes overly professional and feels like they are doing a mundane chore. At times...in fact many of times I feel the hospitality accorded to me is not genuine, it's just to maintain their professionalism.

Okay, even in Asia there are shitty services provided in many places, but if we are to compare similar hotels chains, I still feel in Asia, we get better services.

One more thing about punting in Asia, there is also this thing about looking up to the west mentality...probably many of these girls are looking forward to servicing "gweilos" as many of them wants to experience a foreigners' gentlemanly conduct.

But of course for us foreigners, the price of the product and services rendered in Asia usually will usually spoil us...

Just MHO...

[ Last edited by  Tuffbod at 19-3-2012 09:25 ]

I dont think the word "Ruin" is right.

Once you tasted Asian pussies,  you will be "Spoilt"....

Like what we always said here in Hong Kong and especially China;  WGs!!! Dime a Dozen.....

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I have found some gems, but for the most part it is true --- punting in the US can be a drag.  A solution is to find some AMPs and find some Asian gals there and try to get them to meet you outside.  It might take a few repeats before they trust you, but it often works.  Plus, convincing a HJ-only gal to provide full-service is very rewarding!  They don't do it often so are not jaded and mechanical -- more like a date.

Well tuffboy, I will have to disagree with that statement, maybe in some places it might be true, but from what I've heard and seen here, its almost the opposite.  Gather that most of the "westerners" that actually get to come over here are indeed the more educated and usually more "gentlemanly" types (you left the rednecks at home), from my experience and those around me that have first hand experience.  Their experiences with "gweilos" ranged from, what you described, "gentemanly" to outright sadistic , albeit the latter being on the rarely occasion, like a few times a year for each girl, but it still by far exceeds what they have to put up with from Asian customers.  

In general guys from HK are usually the most well regarded customers, why? Well its not because they are more polite or "gentlemanly" than others, but because they are usually easy pushovers.  I'm sorry if you're a HKer, I am too, but this is the general consensus that I have heard.  

2nd would be Japanese guys, some of them might want to do funky things to them (ala JAV), but they are typically well mannered and they often (not always) pay/tip well.  

3rd goes to Taiwanese guys, they are generally well mannered, but they have a reputation for being very chauvinistic and cheap.

4th goes to mainland Chinese customers, many can be boisterous and ill mannered, they tend to complain more, but at the same time they tend to pay well too.

5th would be caucasians, they never know what they are going to get.  Most are well mannered, but some are definitely on the deep end when it comes to being "problem customers".  "Gweilos" have a reputation for complaining at very little, yes sure if you got bad service you should complain to management, but most Asians don't, they just suck it up.  Nothing really wrong with this, but from a WG's point of view you're a potential "problematic" customer because if they can get away with it with others, they'd think they should always get away with it, but then there are those that will bitch and complain about anything and its more prone to happen with "gweilos" I'm afraid.  Then there are those dreaded ones that are downright nasty.  Its not just the "white cock syndrome", maybe in pornos you see the girls loving when they have trouble fitting it in, in real life, it takes a while to get there and most of the girls that primarily service Asian clients are going to be in a lot of discomfort, and possibly pain, but the good ones will hide it well, in case they get a complaint.  Anatomically we're all designed to fit the opposite sex of our own race, there might be some that are different, but generally speaking this holds true.  The most dreaded are the clients that want to be Rocco, gagging, face fucking, pinning her down and banging her really hard.  Maybe for these guys think banging a girl till she "can't take it anymore"  gives them some kind of primeval feeling that they have conquered her.....I'm not even going to go into the ones that try and force anal...........  

6th would be clients who are racially darker skinned.   Guys of African descent, obviously they are afraid of your size.  Guys from India have a bad rep for taking their condoms off when the girl does not know.  Plus there is a certain amount of racism thats involved.  At the saunas in McCow, clients of a race with dark skin, can be refused service by the girl.  They are the only ones they girls are allowed to refuse, all others they must service or get into trouble.  I'm sorry to those racially with darker skin, but this is how it is.....

I don't know where you got this "westerner superiority complex" from.  Maybe in Thailand most of the girls look up to "westerners" because thats the largest clientele pool available there.  The Thai girls working in McCow certainly do not have this mindset.  The Vietnamese and Chinese girls certainly do not think so.  Can you give any real reasons why you think the girls in Asia are all rushing and pushing each other out of their way to service a "gweilo"?   ....you might be a "gentleman" but this certainly does not hold true for all "gweilos" or any person from anywhere for that matter.

You may ask how can I come to these conclusions or how would I know.  This is getting tearful phone calls from girls (in McCow and mainland China) telling me the ordeal they've been through, both my girl, or her friends (I'm considered their "brother") and from hearing groups of them talk about their customers and ask me "why people would enjoy sex like that".  For the record I've only ever heard stories of pain and tears resulting from "gweilo" customers and once by a Japanese customer with metal beads implanted into his cock (now thats nasty ), and this is from just 3-4 girls, its maybe 30-40 of them in total with these stories that I've either had told to me or I've heard them talk about when we had dinner or a party.

I'm sorry if I offended anybody, but I just can't stand it when someone makes comments about how people perceive certain others as "superior" when compared to others without knowing what people really are thinking.  

My 2 cents and my NSHO...............cheers  

My best experiences in the US were always with the Korean run establishments. Better standards when it comes to both appearance and services. Korean table showers are a greatly appreciated service that most if not all of HK lacks.

I think they lump you guys in with the HKers.  Most overseas born Chinese i've met tended to be nice guys and very easy going.  Except one guy, but then he is another story all together.........

I think this image describes many of those points you made out pretty well.

Yes, Where in the USA can you just walk into an assortment of apartment buildings and have a buffet of girls? On top of that, it's relatively dirt cheap!

Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

First, you tell me where one race begins and the other one ends. Go ahead. Lines us all side by side according to perceived race (or dick size or any other physical attribute) and show me the line between races.

Second. It is simply the physical size of the person. Blacks do not have bigger hardware than any other race if height and weight are equal. Proven fact.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_i ... f_male_human_beings

Stereotyping is a dangerous thing and you are treading dangerously if you do.  I will not doubt your anecdotal observations however. They are valid. They still only apply to those specific experiences of your friends. Even those anecdotes are skewed if you consider the type of personality that is successful enough to leave their country, or adventurous enough to travel and seek trouble in places like Macau. That type of personality is more likely greater factor in aggressiveness than any particular culture associated with any race.

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Fair enough, as I don't have enough first hand experience to back up those claims, but all I can go by are what I've been told and heard from those around me and that suggests otherwise.

Also most of the people that come to McCow for fun aren't necessarily those adventure seekers that had the balls to leave their country.  Most of the people that come here have either landed in the region and "seek trouble" in places like McCow are those that have been stationed here by their companies or are on a business trip here.  Sure its a famous punting hotspot well known around the world, but main clientele are those who have come here to work on a business trip or are staying here permanently on business or are locals from the surrounding area.....

Cheers     

In few years I guarantee things will change. Damn, it's already starting to happen now in China. As China getting richer, standard of living improves, and the economy starts to grow, things will start to get more and more expensive. I recall the first time I came to China, the exchange rate was 8.4 to 1 USD. Now it's like 6.25. And the USA still wants it lower. I heard they like it to be around 4 to 5 to 1, depending where is the trade deficit. The Chinese gov't don't like that but there are getting too much pressure. It just makes their goods more expensive for export.

Someone noticed it and wrote about, how it's getting more expensive in China on another forum.  What was 2-5-8, is now 3-6-9. Some places are 5-15-20 like Eurasia in CP for models now. The Royal Garden in Dalang is 1000, 3000 ST, and 5000 LT. Now it's 1000 rmb to SIT.

When its get even more expensive, it's hard to imagine paying someone just to sit, 1000 rmb. I don't think the average person will be able to afford to then.  A lot of these girls at KTV are starting to have real bad attitudes. There are getting away with too many things than before.

Even the BBS are raised their rates. Most BBS were 150, now 250.

Damn everything got more expensive within the last 2-3 years. Unfortunately, I am expecting it to continue into the future.

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Variety is the spice of life.

while Asia has best value, quality, service etc, there are times you want variety (at least it is in my case). North Americans, South Americans, Eastern Europeans etc... you can get very good experiences as well with those, although the good experience is not as common as in Asia... it is also the variety that makes Asia feel so special, otherwise, you will have no point of comparison

You can try the Sorority houses in some notorious campuses for experiences similar to Fuji Building in HK!

Firstly: I am Asian.

Secondly: Where the fuck did you see I write "gweilos" are superior in my post?

I am merely expressing my opinion on the general perception of Asian people - especially Chinese which many of them who looks up to westerners. You can't deny the fact that many Asian people still think westerners are more advance and especially in China, many people still look up to westerners.


Did you noticed I used the word "PROBABLY" in this sentence? I made this comment based on information I gathered from talking to civvie girls as well as WGs.

It's not me having "superiority complex" it's you who are having some complexity issues...read carefully and comprehend what was written before making your comments.

[ Last edited by  Tuffbod at 20-3-2012 12:10 ]

Yea KTV models (most like pork chops) overprice their rate, just because they met the height requirement.

I stick to regular gals at 2-5-8 (seriously I dont know where in DG still charging this rate) or 3-6-9 / 1K.
It is not cheap. Hidden tips, i.e. 20% devaluation of USD/HKD.
You know who spoil the market!!!!!

But as compare to other countries, China is still cheaper and value for money. At least you dont get Old Hags.
China offers you pinkish bumpkins!!

Agree there is something to variety. One of the girls I did this time out was a big-assed black girl (and she was the best of a sorry lot). It's hard to match the variety available in a place like LA or NY in a place like HK or Tokyo. But HK has its own variety... Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese, Korean, Filipina... And the value for money is just better in HK. F you want a wide variety of white chicks... Europe is better value for money, andthe chances of getting busted by a redneck cop are a lot lower besides.

No, I am done punting in America. I would take the advice to use a AMP, but I am in Asia enough that if I want an Asian punt... I'll do it in Asia. Better price, better service, better selection. The Asians at the AMPs in the states can be pretty hit and miss...

Cost of living in China has also risen quite a fair bit in the last 3-5 years.

I also remember how cheap it was to have a night of good fun in KTV, but it is getting really expensive and the newer generations with all the internet access to so many things that they are becoming less accommodating like before. the more they learn, the more demanding they become.

Not forgetting your very good point on the exchange rates....that eats into how much we can spend a lot!

Sorry can you enlighten me. I don't know who spoil the market ?

If I had to guess:

1. Certainly not the locals
2. Not the HK guys who have been coming to China for ages
3. Not Taiwanese business guy who normally work at factories
4. Not Oversea Chinese from Singapore, Malaysia
5. Not Overseas Chinese from USA, Canada and UK
6. Not Caucasians. There are recent new comers also but there are only a small percentage.
    Most of them need a guide in the beginning because of the language issue.

7.  Maybe the NEW comers would be Japanese / Koreans. Still they represent a small percentage.

8.  Heard there were tours from Taiwan over to S.China just for mongering ( punting ).
    These guy come over to China not as business men but come to China as tourist ( mongers ).
    This would be my guess and the growing Communist economy.


Yes still reasonable for now. It is more expensive than before and will be getting more expensive was my point. I wonder how it's going to be in 4-6 years ? Exchange rate might be 5.5 rmb to 1 USD  or 5 to 1 in 4-6 yrs.  Heard a new destination might be Vietnam for the future.

Yes majority of 2-5-8 are now 3-6-9. Only the smaller KTV you might be able to find 2-5-8.