Apart from Rio and Golden Dragon,  can any bro's advise which other hotels have recommended KTV's within its own complex.

Fortuna hotel has sauna and ktv.

Thanks. Any bros have any experience with Grand Waldo Hotel   I understand they have the Golden Plaza Sauna and Empire City bNightclub, which guess is a KTV.  Info appreciated

And then there is Club Deluxe in the Emperor Hotel, arguably the best KTV club in Macau.

Do you care to provide evidence on why you think so....?

Actually, he has a valid point.

Club Deluxe is often reputed to have the hottest KTV girls in Macau.  I've been pretty impressed in the past, but the quality seems to have slid down a bit the last few years.

I generally frequent Rio KTV now when I'm in town.  I've got better rapport with the managers there, so the overall service quality is more consistent.

Hardware-wise, both have no issues.

Would there be any chance that english  is spoken , even just a little  by some of the WG's. and would you kow if there are russians working in KTV's.?

Yup, you can ask for a girl that speaks English, just don't expect a fluent speaker of the language.

I have seen a couple of white girls in Rio, and I know that Deluxe has some Russians.

Evidence? Does it have to be scientific?

It's supposed to rank at the top among the clubs of the same group as indicated by the price. People said it chooses the girls first from the supplier among its sister clubs as well.

I went to Macau KTV clubs frequently until about 2 years ago, mostly Fortuna and China City. The senior manageress I know well in CC moved to Deluxe and only left her assistants to look after the clients in CC. So I went there a few times too, girl quality was top notch but that was 3 years ago.

issue 151> The reason why people go to KTV instead of sauna is the communication. So language issue is very important. They do have some big city better educated girls, not just village farm girls, so they might know some basic English. Then of course there are the occasional Russian, Korean and especially Mongolian, who were quite common a few years back, not sure about now.

I can't say that I agree with your KTVs of choice, Fortuna and China City.  Fortuna has very few gems, although I have seen a couple of standouts, but generally the girls there are not very impressive.  China City!  They should seriously close this place down.  The whole place seems like mold and mothballs, and the girls there are good from far, far from good.  

The BEST part was being led to the rooms to do the deed.  Have you EVER been in the Jai-Alai Hotel?  Or even heard of it being available for rent?  We were led in circles by the girls who couldn't figure out where they were going either.  Let me tell you, that complex is not for the faint-hearted late at night as it's deserted and lots of dirty, empty corridors abound.

We wandered for a hell of a long time, even the girls were wondering where the room was.  And finally we found them, two side by side.  Let me say this, the corridors are like from a horror movie, where the protagonist is looking for somebody and all of a sudden the killer jumps out to try and stab them.  YES!  It's that bad!

The room wasn't too bad, but there is no way you would EVER stay in a dump like this.  You are better off sleeping in a sauna or just sitting in a casino chair passed out.

The girl was pretty lackluster too, once her clothes were off, my hormones were turned off too.  Did the deed without much ado, and didn't even get off, amazing considering that I had abstained for an entire week due to work and other business.  In the middle of it, she jumped off the bed and opened the door for her friend, which had knocked on the door to tell her that's she's done.  Um Hello?  I was still naked on the bed!  If anybody saw, I genuinely apologize hahaha!

To derive any pleasure from this KTV, I would have to surmise that 3 years ago really means 30 years ago.  This place is a dump.

What's the damage in terms of cost at the Deluxe.  In DG, average pricing structure is something like 2-5-8,  would you say Macau at least doubles to 4-10-20?

You'd have to elaborate on that pricing structure, since everytime I've been in China it's been taken care of by my friends who invite me there.

What do you mean by 2-5-8?

$200 to sit, $500 for ST, $800 for LT,   Sorry but thought you were used to the China postings.  What I am asking is the price for for the KTV room in Macau, then average cost of an overnighter or take out.

Ah, yeah in fact its more.

A typical night would be, 800 room fee, 500 sit fee, 1200 st, and about 2400 lt.

That's if you go in the early evening before 7pm.  After that the prices go up to 1400 room fee.  Of course, overnight fees are sky high in the beginning of the night, and go down until closing time.

If you buy out a girl at say, 8pm, it can easily run you 7,000 or so.

Pricing like that makes me think that crossing the border is a pretty good idea.  You can get a weekend full of KTV girls on the other side for those sort of rates.

yes agree, but with limited time and my wish to play the cards and roulette, coupled with VISA applications, Macau is easier.

Yup, far easier to explain you are in Macau, then some little place in China.

I like to play poker, so Zhuhai, while cheaper, isn't usually an option for me. I wouldn't mind taking a side trip to Chengdu though.

Fortuna will set you back $1800 all-in for ST before 7pm. The pricing is pretty reasonable considering a "model" at Rio, 18 and even East would run for about the same. But would agree with you regarding the mostly average quality of its girls.

Yup, Rio would be close to that during tea time, about 1900 or so.  This is a much better choice, considering the lineup here is way better.  Rooms are also a lot better.  I've never understood the need for Fortuna, although the casino though is comfortable, if a little small.

I totally understand your points. Fortuna's girls quality, at least in the looks department, is way below any one of those within the big group. Also the cloths, the makeup. Several times I had to went inside the girls hall to select girl, and honestly only a few girls among them all are eatable.  But I found girls in the big group while average standard are much higher, are more likely to have the feel of a seasoned pro. That is, they just performed their tasks and earn your money. Whereas in Fortuna, I have on numerous occasions, encountered fresh, non-professional like girls who did it with me with heart and enjoyed the whole process. That's the kind of feeling I enjoy. Also the mamie there is really good friend with me and knows exactly what I like (really well endowed girls).

In the case of China City, I just followed the managers from Tonnochy (not sure if this was the correct English name) after it closed down. It was the place I frequent most going way back. The Jai-Alai Hotel is horrendous but I nearly never stay overnight so I don't really mind either.