Subject: TR - Bait and Switch - yep...I am shocked as well
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TR - Bait and Switch - yep...I am shocked as well

Dear Brothers,

This is a tale of trust betrayed, reputations wrecked and, well, my own stupidity.

Today (3/2/17) the TR stable came back online after CNY and I was delighted. I, almost without fail, check the TR stable daily to see what is new. I have used the TR group without incident for at least 4 years and have recommended them to my friends. Roy and his ladies have been, for me, infallible-----until today.

I called the number for TR-Yuna and I greeted Roy with a jovial KHFC! And asked if Yuna was available at 1pm, but no joy. None would be available until 6. No worries, says I and then book Yuna for a double session at 6. Job done. I move on with my day.  5.30 sees me happily waiting in TST for Roy's text to tell me where the happiness takes place. I get no text. I call at 5.40 and manage to get him. No problem, just head over the the XXX hotel. This is one I have never heard of but so what, I find it on the map and head over. I get a call from Roy telling me to go on up.

This is where the alarm bells should have rung. Roy never calls, I have to call him. Whatever? Up I go into a dingy, short-stay hotel and the door is ajar and I go into a very dark room. Totally not the TR modus operandi, but such is the trust that TR has built up I go with it. The woman in the room greets me warmly enough but I just can't get a good look at her. I give her the money plus a bit extra - I always tip well - and then she asks me to get undressed and pop into bed. No shower. No warm cuddle. The alarm bells are ringing now. But, "it's Roy's girl, you should trust her" goes the cheerful voice in my head.

So I am laying there, and she starts to suck my balls (no shower remember?) and then I get a look at her with the light from the bathroom and it is, well, it's not quite Gollum, but it is close. "Please stop!" says I in my scared, little boy voice, "I need to call Roy". So I do. Meanwhile, she dresses and leaves, just like that.

Well, of course, Roy never answers nor will he again I suspect.

Gentlemen, I know all the warning signs were there but this was TR!! I am still quite flabberghasted. I guess this must be a new Business Model for TR but sadly, like the Trump administration, it is a move towards a darker future.

I don't trust most agents just as a matter of course and always suspect and check a B&S with them, but not with TR. But I will never again use TR as trust betrayed tastes worse than mis-trust undeserved.

[ Last edited by  cityguy at 3-2-2017 20:15 ]

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dNA3D   5-2-2017 17:18  Karma  +1   Omg shocking! Will wait for the dust to settle!
lootbag   5-2-2017 12:43  Karma  +1   sorry to hear, he has always been good to me.
cass   5-2-2017 07:40  Karma  +8   Weird.
daru567   4-2-2017 23:44  Karma  +1   sorry to hear about your story, always wanted to try roy's stable, i think ill skip out till i start seeing good report ...
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JackTheBat   4-2-2017 14:42  Karma  +10   WTF? Someone needs to ferret out an explanation, methinks...
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stinkyfeet   3-2-2017 23:17  Karma  +6   Lol well at least gollum was skinny
Siklong69   3-2-2017 21:58  Karma  +8   Is it April 1st already? Maybe according to the Lunar calendar? I'm stunned!
Mister   3-2-2017 21:39  Karma  +3   Hmm...
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Reply #1 cityguy's post

I am stunned! I have missed out on Yuna on her previous visits and had high hopes of catching her this time, so thanks for the heads-up!

Roy has always been a star and never ever let me down before, so my head is spinning. He was always the ''go-to-guy'' when everything else failed. There have been times when he's said only a certain gal was available on that day so I went for it and even then was never
disappointed with the service.

Being a total idiot I will probably try for a session with Yuna anyway!

As far as hotels are concerned, when they are booked out to the rafters I have experienced a couple of disappointments, including one
Jordan agent sending me to a total dump that sounds like the one you described.

I have also been spoiled by mostly punting at the hotel near the railway station and the other one not far from there in TST E so anything
inferior to that is a big turn-off.

My commiserations!

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Reply #2 Siklong69's post

still astonished, but it happened. Roy was the one person in this whole sector I actually trusted on that side and it, genuinely, hurts to write this poor report. God knows what is going on with him. The Hung Hom location was what I was expecting.
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You usually pay Roy's girls at the beginning of the session ?
Roy usually calls you 30 minutes before the session ?
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I always called Roy, he never called me. I sometimes I would pay up front, not always - depended on the girl. Roy would normally text the address to me about an hour ahead of time and then I would normally call him just prior to the appointment time. All that is in the past. Fuck Roy.
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Reply #5 cityguy's post

I'm shocked as well and can understand your disappointment. This is so unlike Roy! In my experience it's always the same hotel in TST, he always calls a few minutes before the booking to confirm if I'm en route, and I never have to pay upfront. I know lots of punters have been waiting for his stable to return after CNY and bookings are all full. Maybe his number re-routed to one of his associates who ripped you off? Still not acceptable behaviour especially to a loyal customer. Will definitely be more cautious for my next booking.

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Its pretty annoying that agents get away with this on the regular with no fucks given and most of them act like you owe them something when you call in

HK system needs an overhaul that is more customer friendly imo

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QUOTE:
HK system needs an overhaul that is more custom ...

The problem is that it's a seller's market. The agents have something that we all want [need] and the agents know that.

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Siklong69   6-2-2017 03:21  Karma  +8   Bro Jake is right. Besides who would overall the system? The Donald?




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Reply #8 Jake's post

That should have read, 'overhaul' and since I'm here I might
as well give my two cents worth.
The agents are pretty much in competition with each other so you've got no '
system' to overhaul in the first place.
Besides, all of them are basically doing something illegal as pretty much all the
imported gals are here as tourists.
Prostitution IS legal here but only for gals working solo and with valid HK ID cards.
I know this doesn't relieve any of the frustrations, but I just thought I would
put the record straight.
If you're a foreigner like I am it certainly helps if you can speak at least basic Chinese.
Some agents just hang up when they hear English.
Some of them do this because they don't speak English and some because their gals, some or all, just don't do foreigners.

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Thank you so much. Just recalled my bad experience in uk, which im supposed to forget. English report (foreigner) rating local service is always more real.

Always need to be cautious with HG....
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Perfectly new here in many senses, first post too, so Hi to yall.

Anyone of u horndogs kind enough to point out what "TR" refers to, so ur boy dont step on this landmine right out of the gate? and this "Roy" joker seems to be avoided too, thx




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Tr has been quite good up until maybe september last year.  There has been several instances where B&S happened, but I still went thru with it cuz I was horny and had 2 bad experiences in a row.

What tipped it over the top was the 3rd time when B&S happened I declined and he cussed me out and called back to swear at me.  

Wver since then i have never gine back eventhough it is very tempting reading some of the reviews about TR girls on here.

I miss the good ol days of madonna, cocobella (even though she had a rash) and emmanuel.  Those were truly TR gems.

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Reply #11 Classic_Pumps's post

TR - relates to the pre-initials used to denote the girls managed by Thai Roy in the Honeys section. You can go there and on the left hand side you'll see all the different stables. My advice is to avoid Roy altogether and indeed, to shun any agent who Bait and Switches - if enough of us do so then they'll stop..one hopes.

http://go141.com/en/honey.php

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I've never had an issue with Roy and can only praise his girls. None of the senior members never had a B&S issue too....

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Siklong69   9-2-2017 20:22  Karma  +8   I've also never had a problem with Roy.
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ramont   9-2-2017 18:18  Karma  +1   Yep & funny to see that some of those upset have been members for years with a total of 2 reports
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Reply #12 Stroud's post

CUSS YOU! how dare they are!? could I ask you if you are local person can speak Cantonese?

I was shocked if they could use English to cuss the clients!!! It is always difficult to keep the quality if they are just too busy to serve~~~ending up need to B&S

But great to know you had wonderful experience in the past... After reading these "real report" threads... I am getting even more hesitated to try Thai in Hong Kong. Worried about the B&S, or even ladyboy

But its really more excited to try foreigners, like Russian or Thai...
But never easy to get great experience unless spent a lot of money to learn how to master this new "game" and have fun.
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Reply #14 Jack_Sparrow's post

Why would I write this if it did not happen? Why? For what purpose? Jeez.
Whatever....do what you want. Never had a problem with his girls either, just this one problem with him.

[ Last edited by  cityguy at 9-2-2017 18:33 ]

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cass   10-2-2017 06:14  Karma  +4   I'm shocked too. Will be very wary, thanks.
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Reply #16 cityguy's post

I don't think anyone is doubting your experience, just shock that this would happen with Roy who has such a great reputation!

Personally he has never screwed with me and his gals have always been in the same hotel. Perhaps I'll give it a try when I'm free to see if perhaps it was just a temporary glitch.

For example, I always had great experiences with the VC/XL stable until the Hunghom hotel was full and he had to move all his gals to a shitty place in Nathan Road.

When the popular mongering hotels are full sometimes they even have to resort to so-called guest houses.

Anyway, hope you have better luck next time!

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cityguy   11-2-2017 00:28  Karma  +2   trust betrayed dude ..but thanks
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My main point here fellas, is that TR  - Thai Roy...STOLE money from me. It is as simple as that.



There is no reasonable excuse. Busy? He could have simply told me she was not available - annoying...sure..but HONEST.
He LIED to me and then STOLE from me.

Simple.

[ Last edited by  cityguy at 11-2-2017 00:54 ]

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Interesting, experience, sorry it happened to you. My only experience with TR is their absolute refusal to pick up any of my calls, the one time I did get through they hung up without speaking to me. I gave up trying to book via that agent ages ago.
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Reply #19 amphibean's post

And my experience of TR has been about 6 years of excellent, efficient service and courtesy, so this one is baffling. As cityguy says, though, why would he make it up if he's just trying to warn others? He's also been a regular customer of the TR stable, so it's not like they didn't know him. Has Roy been bundled out of business by some other guy who has no clue how good he was? Cityguy, was it the same, rich-toned voice?

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JackTheBat   13-2-2017 08:07  Acceptance  +10   Was wondering this as well as this has been my experience...
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Siklong69   13-2-2017 01:25  Karma  +3   Had the same question run thru my mind!
Thai-delight   12-2-2017 11:12  Karma  +1   a measured reply




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