Subject: [Bangkok] Kessy
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[Bangkok] Kessy

Date & Time of Session: Thursday, January 28th, late afternoon.
Location: Bangkok - Near Sutthisan MRT Station
Name:  น้องเคสดี้
Link: https://offdek.com/sideline/GypH8-x3j
Agent: -
Nationality & Language: Thai, speaks Thai and decent English.
Age: 26
Face: 6/10
Body: 6/10
Height: 5/10
Skill: 6/10
Service: 8/10
GFE: 9/10 - maybe too much of this lol.
PSE: Don't know what this means.
Price & Session Length: ฿1500, 1hr.
Repeat: No.

I'm not a frequent punter (very infrequent actually), but had read quite a bit about Offdek.com and wanted to give it a try. The prices seemed really good, and quality (based on pictures) seemed reasonable too, so I blocked off a couple of hours on a Thursday afternoon and booked an appointment...

First off, a bit about me. I'm not Thai and do not speak the language; I am Asian however and in my early 30s.  

I opened Offdek on Wednesday, found a listing I liked, and added the Line ID listed in the profile. Literally immediately received a message from that ID (in Thai) with prices, instructions, and pictures (suspect it was automated). I sent a message (in English) saying that I was a foreigner and asking if I could make an appointment. Got a message back shortly after saying that the girl was on her period and off for three days. Ok fine then.

Went back to Offdek and found another profile. Added the listed Line ID again. Once again instantly got a message with instructions and pictures - almost positive it's automated. I sent the same message to the account as the first, but this time I got the response "ok. when you want?" I sent back my preferred time for the following day, and received confirmation. The session would be in an apartment complex near Sutthisan MRT station.

Fast forward one day to Thursday - I get a message in the morning asking me to confirm my appointment (which I do). About an hour before I get another message with a kissing sticker following by "see you soon." About 5mins before appointment time, I get a third message saying "you arrive?" I was about 5mins out at that point and relayed that. Was then told that the girl would head down to the lobby to wait for my arrival.

I show up and see the girl in the lobby. She's wearing jeans and a thick black Adidas hoodie. It's a hot day. She sees me and waves. She's not as pretty as the sent photos (they sent photos without the face blur on the Offdek profile) and about 5'2 or 5'3, so pretty short. I'd rate her face as only a 6/10, but I'm notoriously picky and I did see two random guys that walked through the lobby check her out, so others might find her more attractive than I did. Anyway, I was already there and would feel a little bad leaving at that point, so I decided to just do it.

We go up the elevator to the apartment and head inside. She's got a little kitchen table with two chairs. She tells me to sit down, pours me a glass of cold water and we chat a bit. Her English is pretty decent by local standards. She's pretty chatty. Tells me I'm handsome several times (and you can see means it lol), and makes sure my glass of water is always full - I appreciate that.

Eventually she asks me to pay first (standard with Offdek based on what I've read) and I give her the posted price of ฿1500. Then we strip and head to the shower. With her clothes off I can see that she's got a big Japanese-style back tattoo. Really big breasts too, and they seem to be all natural. We shower. She cleans us both well and then gives me a BBBJ for a couple of mins, then heads off to the bedroom. I towel off and follow her inside.

She tells me to lie down and we engage in some foreplay and dfk. She licks me all over, but seems intent on paying special attention to my ears. Eventually I tell her to lie down and lick her breasts/nipples for awhile. We kiss a little more and I tell her I'll do a little DATY for her. She's initially hesitant and tells me "just a little bit." Changes her mind shortly after I start though ;), and I eat her out for awhile.

She tells me to lie down and blows me (no condom) pretty vigorously for 5-10 mins. Good skill. Can't tell if she was trying to make me cum, but she wasn't successful.

She pulls out a condom (although the ad said to bring my own) and puts it on. She insists on starting on top. She rides me pretty hard and when her legs need a break, I pump her from the bottom. We repeat that cycle a few times and I can tell she's getting pretty into it.

We swap to doggy and she moves a full-body mirror in front of herself so that we can watch me pumping her - I'm always a fan of mirrors during sex. We do doggy for awhile, switching between a few variations of the position. Eventually I tell her to lie down and we switch to missionary.

I bang her and she seems pretty into it. She pulls herself into me to bang me back, but I almost wish she wouldn't. We all know that girls that vigorously participate can be great, but in this case our rhythms are different and I can't seem to get them to sync. She doesn't say anything if she notices. We've been going at it for about 25mins at this point. I kind of feel like I'm just going through the motions and I've really started to notice that she's not as pretty as the girls I date in my 'normal' life. I doubt I can nut, so I tell her I'm good for the day. She's surprised by this and offers to switch positions or use her mouth some more. She seems a little disappointed/embarrassed but I insist that I'm happy.

I take a very quick shower by myself and get dressed while she takes her own quick shower. We sit back at the little kitchen table and I drink more water. Probably drank 5 glasses in the hour or so I was there. Her boss calls to let her know that the session time is up. She's still chatty. Asks if I have a girlfriend (I say no), and she keeps telling me I'm handsome and insists that I give her my Line ID so we can hang out (what?). I don't want to, but don't have the heart to tell her straight up, so I tell her that she should have it already. She tells me the other account I added off Offdek was managed by her boss (I knew that from prior research) and she asks again. I ask her if she can't just ask her boss for it, since he should have it, but she says she's not allowed to do that. Reluctantly I add her QR code and she insists that I send her a message before I leave so she can add me back. She's very warm (personality-wise) and makes me promise to see her again. Then she walks me down to the lobby and out to the front of the building and back to the street. We say goodbye.

Later that evening she Lines me telling me she's at the salon and then sends me a picture of her hair post-salon. Her hair was dyed blonde when I met her, but I guess she added some pink highlights in the salon. I reply with "nice." She asks me how I'm doing and if I've eaten dinner and I read but don't reply to that message. She hasn't messaged again after that.

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I'm guessing that given the frequent pre-appointment follow-ups, and her attempt to start a post-appointment conversation on Line, that business may be slow? Offdek was never really intended for foreigners, so I doubt it's directly hurting from the lack of tourists, but I do wonder if the recent re-emergence of Covid in Thailand has resulted in less locals looking for a quick shag.

I won't be repeating with this girl, although anyone looking for a lot of GFE and someone with a service mentality might enjoy a session. I might give give Offdek a second try, being really careful to screen the photos for accuracy this time. As mentioned previously I'm abnormally picky though, so do keep that in mind. Otherwise, if anyone knows where I can find the (generally) prettiest p4p girls in the city, I'd really appreciate that info.

Thanks for reading!

[ Last edited by  CipSty at 31-1-2021 23:12 ]

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QUOTE:
...if anyone knows where I can find the (generally) prettiest p4p girls in the city...

Thanks for the report. Offdek is interesting--as you noted, it's a Thai scene. But other venues are not available now (and there's a lack of international customers), thus some WGs are working in hotels or other places. They have skills, they have bills--what's a girl to do?

In the Before Times a friend used to visit Bangkok and head straight for Billboard or Butterflies in Nana Plaza. He told me that he doesn't mind the pushy mamasans and demands for lady drinks and high prices because for him, it's all about the optics. He wants to spend time with the prettiest girls he can find.

That's not an option now. And of course, the ideal of beauty is in a man's mind. What do you like, bro? Tall and willowy or short and petite? Do you crave a big rack that can bonk you in the head, and do you care if they're natural or storebought? Tattoos: boner-killer? Braces: deal-breaker?

One thing is certain: WG photos are typically Photoshopped. On Thai Friendly, the platform I use most, WGs and civvies alike often smear their faces with filters until they look like plastic dolls. They're aiming for their ideal of beauty, although sometimes, I wonder what informed that particular philosophy. There's some absurd images on TF.

The first thing is to determine what you want. Women in their early 20s are considered lovelier than women at the 30-mark, but the latter IMO have fewer hangups and are more sexually interested. You're more likely to get the PSE (Porn Star Experience) and GFE from women who have overcome that initial coltish shyness which many Thai women cling to.

Example: I invited Ang over last night for a repeat (my initial report: https://forum.sex141.com/eforum/viewthread.php?tid=73686). As we met once before, she's more comfortable. The result: she rocked my fucking brains right out of my skull. She also had an orgasm which was...impressive. Demonstrated that she enjoys sucking cock--some women do, and others just do it because it's part of the gig--one guess which I prefer. She's 28, and very attractive, but my ideal of beauty is not universal.

I found her on TF, there's go-go dancers moonlighting on there, and of course there are other apps. You have to search and find candidates that suit, and chat them up. Move to Line as soon as you get a response. It's hit-or-miss, as are Offdek and finfin.vip, the Thai-language sites.

WGs who speak English often prefer that you NOT speak Thai. The farang scene is more lucrative than the local scene, and is perceived as such. If your Offdek date speaks English, she's used to generous non-Thai speakers, which likely accounts for her desire to add you on Line and stay in touch. Go ahead and add anyone on Line, you can block them later. She's allowed to try, right? If you're polite and clean, you're probably more desirable than most of her other clients. She's working a hotel, and maybe she'd like a break. Maybe you'd like some company for a few days. Worth a try, right?

If it's beauty you seek, consider a stroll down Sukhumvit Soi 24/1, near the Phrom Pong BTS station. The shophouse massage places are open now (I know because I went there to sport with Maki again last week) and ladies are out front. They're less aggressive than in the past, which is good as a bunch of attractive Thai ladies urging you to come into their shop and bang them can be overwhelming. On this soi you see what you're getting without Photoshop at a minimum. In Bangkok right now, I think this is the best option for checking out talent before hiring a consultant.

If that sounds like a stroll you'd like to make, make a post here and I'll give advice on how to best manage that. And you WILL need to manage both your expectations, and the many women who really need to pay their rent and haven't had a customer all day, or maybe several days. That's the reality.

JtB


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Reply #2 JackTheBat's post

Thanks for your response! You're definitely right that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I see plenty of pretty girls walking around malls and in restaurants though, and I'm able to meet them via conventional dating apps and in mainstream bars/clubs in the city (pre-Covid), but was hoping to use the P4P route to save time, uncertainty, and attached-strings.

Unfortunately it's been hard for me to find the same high quality available on the rental market, and I'm not sure if that's due to my inexperience or if that's just the way it is lol.

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If it's beauty you seek, consider a stroll down Sukhumvit Soi 24/1, near the Phrom Pong BTS station.

If that sounds like a stroll you'd like to make, make a post here and I'll give advice on how to best manage that.

This sounds interesting and I'd appreciate your insight here if not too much trouble.

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Bangkok is overrun with beautiful women. But yes, they have strings attached. If you want a Thai GF you really need some language skills and cultural understanding.

WGs are simpler. But I'm serious: when you say "quality" what are you looking for? Tall/short/educated, the list is longer when it comes to civvies.

As for Suk Soi 24/1, search for reviews online. It's a dogleg soi with almost nothing but converted shophouses that are brothels. Popular with Japanese/Koreans/Chinese pre-COVID. They opened up last week so you can simply wander and see who catches your eye. But understand that you will be popular--business is off and they will solicit.

Don't be put off by overt friendliness, smile and go with it. Plenty of WGs want steady regular guys, you don't have to play along if you don't want to.

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...when you say "quality" what are you looking for?

Generally I tend to prefer girls here with more Northeast Asian or mixed (Asian/Western) facial features. And pretty, obviously. Slim bodies, good complexion. Don't really care enough about braces/tattoos for them to be deal breakers for this sort of thing. If the girl looks like she might be a home run by local standards of beauty, chances are I'd take a look :).

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As for Suk Soi 24/1 it's a dogleg soi with almost nothing but converted shophouses that are brothels.

Funnily enough, I actually live right around there. 5-10mins walk to Emporium/Emquartier. Can't say I've ever seen rows of obvious working girls beckoning, although I do see some ladies sitting inside/outside what look like traditional massage shops on Soi 24 proper. They're usually middle aged and not very attractive though and they definitely don't proposition me. The storefronts look too much like reputable businesses too.

I also know there are some bars that look like gogo/hostess bars at one end of (I think) Soi 22? Never visited them though.

I'll take a walk around Sukhumvit 24/1 specifically. Don't think I've been there before (as opposed to the bigger Soi 24 proper). If I do see something nice, what prices should I expect to pay?

Thanks!

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Generally I tend to prefer girls here with more Northeast Asian or mixed (Asian/Western) facial features. And pretty, obviously. Slim bodies, good complexion.


Makes sense--that's the phenotype a lot of guys like. You didn't mention pale skin but that sounds like it's part of the package...

In the Before Times a lot of brothel-massage girls were hefty. I walked into parlor once that was renowned for its PSE providers, and the entire lineup was on the heavy side. I prefer them slim myself with good complexion, but...personality counts, ah ha ha!

Soi 24 is a large typical business-oriented street. Soi 24/1 is nothing like that: it's a dogleg soi and the only motorized traffic is motorscooters, most/all motosai drivers in orange vests. It's not a through street, it starts on Sukhumvit, runs maybe 100m and turns into Soi 26.

You will immediately know when you are on the soi, but I cannot give you a strategy. OK: be ready to punt (don't have to be clean, they'll scrub ya) and maybe carry a bag of individually wrapped candies. It works like this: you see a few girls, one looks good, go up to them and hand out sweets to everyone. This gives you time to get a closer look and it's a nice thing to do. You're not obligated to go into the shop, you can just say "sawatdee khap" and walk to the next shop--they won't be thrilled (business is NOT good), but it's a good icebreaker.

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Reply #5 CipSty's post

If you are looking for more of the pretty, slim , model like WG. You usually have to go through the so called Modeling Agency. And the price usually go up dramatically. Some thing like 12000-15000 for 3-4hour session.

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JackTheBat   9-2-2021 09:50  Karma  +10   Hi arikop, have you tried any of these sites? Thanks.
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@JackTheBat I've try 2 agency.
P'Gingmodeling : Line : Mickyindizzz : Price 11k upward : Lots of support role actress and fashion photo model
K.Cherry : Line : Chermdl : 5k-15k : a mixed bag of okey looking WG to a real gem.

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Originally posted by arikop at 9-2-2021 10:49
@JackTheBat I've try 2 agency.
P'Gingmodeling : Line : Mickyindizzz : Price 11k upward : Lots of support role actress and fashion photo model
K.Cherry : Line : Chermdl : 5k-15k : a mixed bag ...


Interesting! Many of us would love to read reports on Thai actresses and models--can you write some for us? Don't worry about how to write it, just tell us what happened.

Thanks.

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