Russian WGs, "gentlemen" clubs etc
I guess I have a different mindset when it comes to Bangkok (which is what this thread is about, no one's even gone as far as Pattaya yet).
Russian WGs? If you crave white tail maybe Hong Kong's a better bet, although you really should check out a good FKK--yes you have to go to Europe and it's not cheap but I rate things on a value-for-money basis, and the value of some dodgy Eastern Euro gal in BKK is suspect. IF you want to try this route I would go for a high-end massage place in the Ratchapisadek area. Bring plenty of cash.
I read a report on the PIMP club and it seems appropriately named. Apparently it combines the KTV tradition of paying women to sit with you with a known Thai tradition of selling overpriced alcohol, primarily tequila or whatever it is they claim is tequila, all at hefty prices. I assume the women there are attractive, but frankly, finding attractive Thai women in Bangkok is not the world's most challenging task. There used to be clubs on Soi 33, I dunno if they're still there, I never went and it's not my thing.
I repeat myself so often but then again, I read reports on this forum and others where guys go to BKK and have difficult/expensive times, so here's Jack's advice yet again:
1) Dress decently: long pants, shirts with collar, avoid the tourist uniform of flip-flops, shorts, t-shirt...all that. Yes it's hot, deal with it. Wear long pants.
2) Smile and be fun. Don't be that frowning guy. Even if they try to overcharge you, smile and work it out politely. A couple of things to avoid in Thailand: raising your voice in argument, or participating in physical aggression. The latter includes trying to intervene in someone else's fight. Think of it as a karma-game: if you smile and bring fun you win, if you bring negativity you lose. It has nothing to do with "right and wrong" or "the principle"--this is a different culture.
3) Some like a drink or two with their evening fun, but the atmosphere (not to mention cute mostly undressed women urging you to drink more) often causes punters to overimbibe. I read a lot of reports where guys cite "whiskey dick" as the reason they spent thousands of baht to not-have sex. Alcohol dehydrates people and in a tropical climate, this is not a positive thing. Try mongering and drinking soda water, it IS possible. If you read various sources you will quickly discover that problems in Bangkok are often in the wee hours involving people who are intoxicated. I can't tell you how to live, but again, I'm not there to drink--I'm there to fuck and have fun. I do what I do and I go where I go. But when I visit, and when I lived there, I was home before midnight one way or the other. And you can search my Thailand reports and see part of what I got up to--judge for yourself.
There's a lot more, but many WGs have learned that Western guys and non-Thai Asians will put up with stuff no Thai man would ever condone. Buy me drink, buy my friend one, do this, do that. Smile and make a joke of it. If you can learn a few Thai phrases this works better, but if you're dressed reasonably and not going along with this look-at-the-ATM-spit-out-money game, you're already ahead of the pack.
Just some general suggestions. I think the evolved-escort approach (which is what smooci has become, but there are others) might be a good option, but as ever, YMMV.
When I lived there I would just walk around lower Sukhumvit and approach whoever seemed appealing for a quick conversation. The Biergarten on Soi 7 wasn't paradise back then but was at least viable. But I didn't care where they were or what they were doing--picked up a gal buying snacks from a street stall once, brought her back to my condo. Ones I liked went in my address book for repeats. This was long before the African streetwalkers (WTF) and other nonsense so it may no longer be a viable strategy. However, the rate was (and I maintain it still is) a grey note, a thousand...ya know, plus snacks if they turn out to be fun.I made one exception: the half-Thai/half-Egyptian would not budge from 1500 and, well, she got it and was worth it.
But that was me and that was Back Then. Now all kinds of "digital nomads" and people who want outta-the-West are heading to Thailand, Bangkok is one of the world's more touristed cities, overbuilding is rampant, the BTS is clogged and blah blah. All the more reason to dress well and speak politely, say I.
I post and re-post my list of suggestions for Thailand because I'm constantly surprised at how well it works FOR ME. My Thai is lousy but I can greet people politely, make jokes, offer things like snacks appropriately and the dividends are astonishing. These gestures mean a lot to Thais, and perhaps are more meaningful given the glut of farang nowadays. There are some Thais who are just plain burned out and will persist in whatever scheme they have in mind regardless of how you dress/act, but they are the minority. If you are seen as a "jai dee" farang you'll find that Thais in the service industry and elsewhere will be "on your side"...at least while you're doing business at their place. This is a valuable commodity whether you're bargaining for some knick-knack or easing your throbbing unit into Noi's pulsating bunghole upstairs at a Soi 6 brothel. Oops, OK that's Pattaya, but the principle holds true.
Just my opinion, but it works for me.
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