Original Post
JackTheBat

12-7-2012 00:54
gotta weigh in here...

the discussion is on mainland China, and as this board's regional, that's as it should be.

but i must mention that when i read these comments, i just think: Thailand, all over again.

it makes sense. in the 60s, Thailand benefitted from the USA airbases, and a scene sprung up due to US soldiers going on R&R. some went to HK and Singapore, but many chose BKK as flight time was shorter, leaving more precious minutes for intoxication and penetration.

Thailand was seen as a stable nation in an unstable region. the first industrial park (for Japanese companies) was established in 1971.

as a multinational, how would the PRC have struck you as an outsourcing destination in 1971? would you have pitched it to the board?

in the 70s, Thailand was sailing along, and started to take off in the 80s. 1987 was the first year they ran a tourism campaign. when i first visited a couple of years later, there was Patpong and Soi Cowboy...and Chaophya 2. i was always the young whelp in any bar, most patrons were in their 60s, a lot of Europeans. the girls were fresh, hot and obliging--it was a bit intimidating to me at that time...well, i was just a kid in many ways!

once i moved to Asia, i visited Thailand often (still do) and all the stuff u guys are describing (sponsors, gathering contacts for mass-mailings, marriage-with-intent) were occurring by the early 90s, before the Net, before mobile phones. once those technologies came in, it just skyrocketed. made it easier for savvy gals to juggle a number of true-loves. what was most feared was when Dieter from Dusseldorf and Bob from Boston were in town at the same time, but if u don't think a Thai WG can't manage that, keep it REAL when mongering in the Kingdom. they can and do.

the reasons for cash-infusions have gotten more sophisticated over the years--no more "the village water buffalo died, my family will starve." now they can juggle guys on Facebook, via email, and of course mobile phones. every guy who's spent enough time mongering in Thailand has had their tongue up some Thai gal's cooter while she talks on the phone: "yes darling is it cold in Switterland OOOOH no sorry, have cockroach run across room oooh-OOOOH no darling i just drink water cold too much, i miss you too much ohmiGAWD!" we're fuckin' 'em and reading their emails. in years past we'd be called upon to WRITE letters, even emails, but as emails can be filled with misspellings and sloppy grammar, it's seldom mentioned anymore. gals email on their phones. tech has made the whole business much easier.

it's happening now in China, but just as you get a good idea of Asia's next pop-culture trends by studying Japan's CURRENT pop-culture trends, so too can u see WGs in China mongering-scenes looking for bigger/better payoffs, just as has happened in Thailand. AsnDragon's descrip of the family that spends ALL the WG can earn without a thought for the future--yes, seen plenty of that. it's the kid-in-the-candy-store syndrome: "oh, the rich guy from far away just BOUGHT us a TV! and we threw a big party, got the entire village drunk, and he just paid for it all! next we want a pickup truck." it's like that. and some guys just keep paying--they balk, and little sweetie throws a fit, and they give in. for her family, there's never a thought of: the gal's got a limited shelf-life, let's be prudent. it's just yeehaw, funny money. it's documented everywhere on the Net--guys who always, ALWAYS say "yeah i know, but my gal is DIFFERENT." of course she is. until she's not.

true, as SEAJ mentioned, China does not want to be seen as a sex-destination. guess what: NEITHER DOES THAILAND. the tourist literature is full of spas/beaches/temples and officially, that's all that exists. while lower Sukhumvit has become a real swamp even in the dry season, around 2002 they opened a new complex near Soi 10. lots of businesses, but on the street were girlie-bars with employees handing out leaflets. a pal who'd lived there in '88, over a dinner-conversation, told me: "the conservative Sino-Thais who control this city will not stand for that--watch and see what happens." not long after, bulldozers guarded by soldiers swept in one morning at 5:00AM and crushed the entire block. i have pictures of the aftermath. nowadays, it's a large square-block garden. the red-light areas, tucked into a cul-de-sac or on a back-soi, continue to do trade.

Thailand now has 22 million visitors/year, the scuba-diving is degrading, places like Phuket's Patong Beach now look like some Waikiki tourist-trap as Filipino bands warble over iced-seafood displays and sunburnt blonde tourists gawk at transexxuals. everyone knows what's going on--check into any hotel in Thailand and bring a WG up to your room, they might ask for her ID card, but the worst thing that'll happen (at the snooty places) is they'll gouge you for a "joiner's fee." the gal might overcharge you and sneak some booze out of your minibar. of course it's a sex-destination, but try writing that if yr in-country on a journalist visa, ha ha ha. or contact the tourist board and ask them where the best soapy is. tell 'em yr bored with the temples.

the story of the PRD is cheap manufacturing, factory-towns built by HK/Taiwanese tycoons, and migrant-workers...including migrant sex-workers. it worked very well for awhile. now that living standards have risen, it's harder to find ppl willing to work 51 weeks a year and pack into trains at Guangzhou station...if they're running. the same multinationals who would never have built plants anywhere in China in the 70s are now building big ones in Sichuan/Hunan Provinces--keep the workers close to home and they're happier. of course the biz-climate will change.

and WG-tactics will change. it's inevitable.

JtB

[ Last edited by  JackTheBat at 12-7-2012 01:20 ]

UsernameTimeCreditsReason
SEAJ 12-7-2012 01:50 Acceptance +10 Very interesting read. Thanks!
AsnDragon 12-7-2012 11:52 Acceptance +6 Water buffalo died! Classic!
gwailoplayer 12-7-2012 19:39 Karma +2 Yee Haw. I was there when the Sukhimvit place was flattened
DArtagnan 13-7-2012 15:13 Karma -2 maybe better to post in Monger's Lounge - we can give K there ...
Wachovia68 16-7-2012 11:47 Karma +3 Solid analysis!
Rico 16-7-2012 23:25 Karma -3 Reversed as requested...


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