Hi All,

I am curious how to find the best service sex here. My problem is that I don't come easily and when a condom is involved I generally don't come at all. Add to that the fact that the girls just aren't really into it and it makes the whole thing pretty pointless for me.

Last night I met the cutest 141 girl who had exactly the body type that I crave. At first she went through the motions and that was fine, but wasn't going to get me to orgasm. When she realised this she really did try to give me better service, caressing me, playing with my chest hair and nipples etc etc.

But, even though she was a little hottie and just my type, it still didn't work for me. With no condom I definitely would have come.

So... my question is: given that it is hard for me to orgasm with a condom, where can you get the best service (141, massage, etc etc) and hence the best chance of a good orgasm?

• Smile a lot and be happy, that will make the girls more at ease.
  
• Read the reports here to find out girls who put in extra effort in their service.
  
• Search for girls who offer CIM for no condom finish.
  
• Learn Chinese to be able to chat them up.
  

It really is quite random and rare to find a wg who you connect with so much that you forget the condom is there.

You seem to mention good service and no condom. I think you would be better off getting a good massage with a HJ happy ending. I don't think you will find a WG that will ML w/o a condom and if you do you are taking a great risk

Stick with a good HJ then you won't need a condom.

I have similar trouble with condoms, so you really need that extra charge. I tend to have a high turn over, the charge I get from a new good service WG does the trick for me. You must have a fair idea what really rings your bell, go out and get it. Remember the great thing about WG's that you're in the drivers seat.

You should read through the reports to find a WG with the best BBBJ skills who will let you CIM.

Another suggestion is to find a WG with nice D or E cups and good tittie fuck skills. Hope this helps!

BBBJ and CIM is the best alternative if you're having a hard time with condom.

also, please post a report of your experience with the "cutest" 141 girl you mentioned above to share with us.

BBBJ and CIM doesn't do the trick for everyone. I have same condom issues as kefu26, but find no solution in BBBJ, much as I enjoy it. I've only been able to CIM once and that was because I had a second girl sitting on my face whilst the first gave me an oily HJ and BBBJ combined.

i think first you need to treat the WG very nice and make her very happy to have fun with you. than afterward you can ask her to have CIM... usually she maybe let you have CIM. I don't think any WGs will let you have without condom - it is just too risky.

the issue I see is we could give you our favourites, and tell you exactly what we did to get our best experiences ... but ... there's no guarantee it would work for you.  

Actually, we KNOW it won't work for you:  the reality is we DO give you our best contacts, and tell you what we did, just read the reports
which proves that taking your question at face value and telling you where it is we go for our best shots wouldn't help you, because it hasn't.  

So I'm wondering what we can do to help?  

Here's what I do to get a good orgasm:-
  1. invest the time to find girls I get more excited by.  This means an extra hour or so browsing the website, but means I find "gems in the rough".  There's no rush greater than noticing a new hot girl arrive on the db, and wondering just how soon I can get to see her ... even at the 141 level (where the turnover is much slower) there are a couple of new hotties every month within a 1/2hr trip from my starting point.  Knowing who's hot and who's not is just as much part of the hobby as reading the reports for titillation and for new tips.  Practicing looking through the pixellated and PS'd pics, to spot the underlying talent, is as much fun as the punt itself.  

  2. make sure I'm hungry.  Yup, that means avoiding sex or wanking for a day or even two.  Personally I usually have the opposite problem, and need to shoot one in advance to reduce my hunger before seeing a girl, but if I'm feeling low on energy, tired, down, I do sometimes need to pace myself instead of knocking one out in the morning before the punt.  So I know it works.

  3. practice some tricks.  Every position is different.  You get a different level of stimulation depending how you position yourself and your girl, and even a slight change in angle or depth can make all the difference.  For example if I'm on my Second Cumming, I often can't hold lying doggie, but I do just great with a sideways scissor position.  Another good trick to practice is closing your eyes and fantasising: that can bring the most mundane experience back to life.  You have to find out what turns you on most,and make a point of getting to know just exactly how your body works.  Although we're all guys, we are all different (read the reports and it's obvious).  You are ultimately the ONLY one who CAN know what you like, and it is 100% your responsibility to get to know yourself, where your triggers are, and how to set off the fireworks.  

  4. relax during the session.  It's easy to get wound up because she's not into it, because she wasn't as hot as in the pics, because the clock is ticking, etc. etc. (name your favourite paranoia).  If your goal is to come, it makes it harder.  If your goal is just to have as much fun as you can with the pussy your dick is inside, my own experience is to end up having more fun.  

  5. try NOT to come.  Yup it's one of those funny situations: the harder you try the harder it becomes.  Many of my biggest releases have happened when I was trying to delay as long as possible, trying not to move too much, trying to pleasure her without pleasuring myself ... then ... nature takes over and the unavoidable happens.  

  6. take control if you have to.  Don't expect her to do all the work, some girls just lack the skill or the motivation, but they are ALL there to please you and want to get you off as quick as they can.  As long as you don't hurt her she literally wants you to use her body for your ultimate pleasure ... don't be shy, go for it ... worst case you have fun, and best case she'll get wrapped up into your enthusiasm also.  

and 7.  I guess we also need to add: be willing to walk.  There's nothing worse than feeling you have to perform, because you agreed to walk in the door and will have to pay, even if the Kingdom doesn't come.  Let yourself walk away from marginal situations, where the agent has pissed you off, where the look in her eye is less than admiring, where the pit of your stomach tells you this is going to be another difficult one ... Again, get to know yourself, and walk away.  

Nothing breeds success like success ... and you have to get to know your personal success formula as if your life (or at least your sex-life) depends on it ...

So your best bet is to focus all your attention on figuring what was different between your good punts and your bad punts, and aim to repeat the experience.  

Is this helping?

1) Have a small dick (as big dick will make them feel pain and may give u shitty service)
2) Smile and be friendly
3) Compliment on how sexy they look (BS abit on this)

Go to sheung wan bonham strand and look for dandan

Try taking your own condoms, spending a bit on a quality one does make a huge difference compared with some of the rain-coats that the girls have in their rooms.  I had a little trouble with a sensitivity to latex so always take my own now, some of the thinner ones really do feel a lot better, well worth the outlay and the girls are always grateful.  For me it makes the difference between being able to come and not.  One problem with having failed to "get there" in the past is that always makes you a little anxious which in it's own can put you off, catch 22.

That sounds like a great way to achieve CIM, is there a full report on that one I can read?

Yes, have you tried the thin non-latex condoms? Advertised to be thinner and conducting more heat than latex for better feeling.

One of the brands sold in HK sagami original 0.02 is advertised as 20 microns thin. Latex condoms are about three times thicker.

wow.... NICE! would be hard for anyone not to come in a spot like that

OP, to be safe as other posters suggested you pretty much have to go BBBJ or HJ... personally I havent found that many 141 walkups to have incredible BBBJ skills though

I agree with Jilluk98 and guess your problem is just the nerves.

When I started visiting WG's I was pretty nervous because I didn't know how to react, what to expect of the girl and was affraid not to be able to orgasm. And guess what: I was so nervous I indeed failed to orgasm.

So I tried to take Viagra (which is pretty stupid for someone in his early 30's) but got a lot of side effects (blushing) and couldn't come anyway.

After trying a couple of times I finally managed to orgasm with a WG. The following 10-15 visits I still felt a bit nervous because in the back of my mind I was still affraid to climax.

But now I am very confident and never had any trouble with coming the last couple of years. I even visit gangbangs and sex orgies and have no fear left anymore.

So my advice: keep fucking as many girls as possible to build up your confidence. And think: what's the worst thing that can happen, just not orgasm, but I'll never see this girl again in my life.

Good luck!

Wow, some great responses there. Thanks.

The good news is I had a better experience tonight Being a little disappointed with my last girl I didn't head out this evening to looking another girl. However, on the way home from picking up some groceries I accidentally-deliberately passed a few interesting locations to have a look to see what else I could find. I saw a gaggle of thai girls, none of whom where upholding the LOS tradition (i.e. smiling).

This is the big thing for me. A girl who isn't smiling turns me off right away. Pain can be a bit of a problem since I like small girls and tend to be a little too big for them. Lucky my ex liked it like that. I passed on the thai girls ... explaining "khun soi mak mak, te don ni phom mai au" (you're very beautiful, but I'm okay for now). It was good to practise my thai

As I continued to head home I checked a few random places because it's fun. Nothing very interesting though. Evidently it was pretty clear to some keen observers what I was doing, because as I passed one lady she simply nodded her head in the direction of a building entrance. This is what happened.

The papasan opened the door for me and three girls emerged from their rooms simultaneously. "Dou shao qian?" I asked. 300, he answered. Okay, that's a fair price but I didn't really feel like spending another 300 on average sex. Evidently the second girl wasn't paying attention and was instead trying her best to look sexy because she motioned to me, saying "liang bai, liang bai" (200, 200).

Oops. The papasan tried to correct her, but the damage had already been done. I was interested now, because not only was the price good, but this girl was fun. We spent a good 10 minutes in broken chinese as she tried to bargain her way back up to 300 and tell me 200 would be very boring. In fact it wasn't. She was cheeky, tried some ridiculous things and it wasn't too hard for me to come despite the condom.

Once we were finished I paid her and she tried playfully to dig an extra 20 out of me. Not that I care about the 20 bucks, but we had an agreement... in writing too. I smiled and tapped the scrap paper we had negiotiated on. "dui bu qi". She smacked me on the arse and tried instead to extract a tip in the form of my grocery shopping which included a bunch of bananas. When I laughed, she opened her draw to produce her own, bigger, bunch of bananas just to spite me LOL. I'm pretty sure they weren't for eating.

She smacked me again and pushed me out the door.

This girl was older and less pretty than my last, but she was heaps more fun

Sorry, I have no idea of the specific address or anything as I was wandering aimlessly. It was somewhere on Temple Rd.

Let me help you with your Thai first

"khun soi mak mak, te don ni phom mai au"  more like it's khun suay (suuu-aey, rising tone) maak maak (long "a" vowel), taaah ("a" sound like "apple") diaw-nee (not don ni) phom mai au (I prefer phom okayyy, or pen okayyy, or at least add a "khrap" to soften it).

I don't think it's a good idea to discuss obtaining BB services, but I know punters who regularly visit SEA and Colombia and get that service. In reality, I have a big problem with that. I'm not sweating HIV or Hep C, I'm sweating HSV, papilloma, and other similar microbes. Many of those guys invariably have it, from too many years of banging strange pussy without the condom worldwide.

As for other skin/skin contact, sounds like you either come in with an appetite, as D'Artganan suggested (actually, taking a few days off from whacking off, which I suspect to be the problem here, will get your sensitivity back), if there's still an issue, then it's HJ or BBBJ.

1) be nice and happy
2) chat them for at least 1min, ask their name and origins
3) pretend to be gentlemen at first
4) make sure your clean
5) tell them you really like them

thats about all the things you can control to make them like you that extra bit more and provide that extra bit more better service...

dont fuk without the condom, risky for u, the girl and the rest of the world

good luck

talking about condom, which one you guys usually use? i haven't tried those 0.02 one because i always worry that they will break in the middle of "process". therefore i usually use the extra safe (it might also mean extra thick)  one from durex.