just read through this entire thread... man it seemed tense in here.
I guess being a Westerner of Chinese descent (aka, I watch enough HK movies), I can see things from a bit on both sides. I haven't even tried DFK but have tried lip locking with some of these girls during sex. They generally refuse, and I make sure I've taken a crap load of breath mints before seeing them (gotta love them Circle Ks and 7-11's in HK). They will however (which kinda worries me) give me hickeys. I don't know if there's anything in the Chinese culture per say about kissing. I've dated Chinese girls before who just don't seem to be into kissing and I've dated other Asian (chinese, vietnamese and korean) girls who seem to find it one of the few ways to truely show my affection for them (a hard dick in the pussy doesn't mean I love them, just means I'm horny). I also had a vietnamese girlfriend who made me salivate into her mouth while making love, which was kind of weird. I get the feeling that Chinese people just don't DFK much at all (again, may just be my ignorant ABC point of view), but perhaps may do it to please someone they truely love, like how my girlfriends reluctantly give me anal.
I think DFK and DATY are always buyer be ware since we all know who/what else has been there.
lich13, I commend you for trying to stand up for some of the WGs. I've only read the post after it was edited (plus some of the quotes alluding to the original post on some replies), but I feel that there's a general consensus (at least amongst those who post) that we all treat the WGs as real people with feelings and emotions.
I think the WGs are aware of what they're getting themselves into and have a right to reject clients as they wish, so if indeed there's a whole Asian cultural thing about mind and soul being correlated to kissing, they will eventually stereotype and just choose to weed out foriegn clients, assuming Asian males also abide by this mind and soul kissing thing. When I talk to some of the streetgirls in TJ (the ones that can understand my broken Spanish and compensate with their bad English), that not all of them take on black clients cuz of their big dicks (It might be a stereotype only, I haven't checked for myself). If they get hurt during a session, that means less work the next few days. Or maybe they say it to make me feel better about not having an insanely huge dick.
I think it's pretty straight forward that if I want anything out of the ordinary BJ, intercourse positions, cuddling, etc, I'd have to ask. If they offer, great. If they don't, I won't bother, just won't look for it with her. Anything beyond that is rape. I think the blurred lines come in when (and once again I inject only my personal observations as an ABC) it doesn't seem like much of a big deal to kiss when you've already had intercourse in Western culture as much as it is in Chinese culture. I've made out with strippers in Sacramento and LA before while given a private show, but I couldn't even finger their pussy. Now, if I took that mentallity to another country, I'd assume that "hey, not only have I fingered her pussy, my dick is inside of her right now, it should be okay to kiss." Now, if I grew up in Southeast Asia, maybe I would've assumed it's okay to "boink" any strippers I see in the club and get arrested in Hacienda Heights (strip club capital of Los Angeles).
One thing I gotta ask the fellow mongers here. I got a pretty deep kiss from one of the girls that I tipped $100. She tasted like an ash-tray. Do you generally ask her to rinse her mouth out before if you plan on DFK?
