Subject: Worried about being caught visiting WG by friend/family?
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Another Story of Being Caught

I have a slightly different story about being indirectly caught. Some years ago, my wife had gone back to school in the States while I was working in Europe. During one of my travels in east Europe, I had arranged a 3some with some WGs advertised on a website in a city I was visiting. The session, which wasn’t spectacular in hindsight, was still very novel as it was my first 3some. We had gotten a little drunk in the process and after the girls left, I continued to drink some more. In my inebriated state, I felt I just had to share the experience with someone since I was feeling excited about it and it was just a weird night (probably the alcohol contributed to this). So, I called one of my “best” friends back in the States that night. This guy was actually the best man in my wedding so I trusted him like no other. I managed to get him on the line and told him of the experience. I didn’t say they were WGs, however. I just said I met them in bar. He promised not to say anything and seemed genuinely happy that I had that experience (He is very liberally minded. We had actually picked up some WG’s together in Mexico a couple years before).

Fast forward a few months. . . . . I’m in the States with my wife. She gets a phone call and I’m standing right next to her, not knowing what is being told to her on the other end. After she hangs up, she looks at me with tears in her eyes and asked if I had sex with another woman while I was in Europe. I was floored and wasn’t expecting that all. I couldn’t lie, so I admitted the tryst to an extent. . . Anyway, I came to find out that my friend had told another friend of ours of my phone call while they were smoking weed together. I guess in his intoxicated state of mind, he lost control of his ability to hold something secret in the same way I lost control while I was drunk in deciding to call and tell him of my experience. I guess he assumed this mutual friend, in his altered state of mine, would laugh about and not say anything. The zinger here, however, was that the mutual friend he told was the flatmate of my wife’s brother. So, feeling an ethical responsibility of having this knowledge, he gave his third party understanding of the story to my wife’s brother. The brother in turn called his mom who in turn called her daughter- my wife. That was the phone call I mentioned above. . . . I have never blamed the mutual friend for telling my wife’s brother. In his situation, I think he did the right thing. I rarely communicate with the friend I told now, however. I was never really super angry with him, though.

I was lucky in that my wife was willing to forgive me and wanted to amend and revive the relationship. It worked for a little bit, but we still remained physically apart, however, due to her still finishing school in the States and my job moving to another overseas location. From there, due to a variety of reasons (mostly me), the relationship disintegrated and we ended up divorcing, but with no messiness (no kids, no major shared assets, etc.). Part of it was I knew I couldn’t stop mongering and I was starting to feel attracted to other non-WG women due to our 1 year+ physical separation. I didn’t want to hurt her any more, so that contributed to end, as well.

Anyway, the moral of this story, is be careful to whom you share your mongering stories! And the secondary moral of the story, intoxication on the part of anyone in the know, including yourself, doesn’t help keep the secret!
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Reply #21 tbyrd_21's post

I hope you don't think I am going"I told you so" or that I'm gloating or anything like it at all - but I'd like to "apply" your experience with my rules I outlined before.

The mistake that I see in all this is that you basically did not - understandably in your inebriated state of mind - protect your wife's "Face" by telling your buddy.

Second mistake was for you to have admitted it.  Think about it - if you had denied denied denied - you will not only have planted a seed of doubt in her mind, it also will make THE basis for her to justify her continuing the relationship.  She at least has a tiny space on which to still continue the marriage.

Perversely, your wife could have thought that "the fact that he would even bother to still lie must mean he still does care about me"  You didn't lie, you didn't deny - and her thinking is - "that SOB don't even bother to try to salvage the marriage - couldn't even be bothered to deny"

I actually hate lying and would in most instances NOT lie - and I know, I just know that I'll probably go to hell for lying to my wife - but what's the choice?

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Reply #22 SEAJ's post

    now we know what makes you tick !!!  
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Reply #23 twiceAweek's post

TICK???!!!  ROFLMAO - what makes my dick tick??!!

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by SEAJ at 20-1-2010 21:49
TICK???!!!  ROFLMAO - what makes my dick tick??!!

SEAJ

certainly hope its not me !  
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Reply #25 twiceAweek's post

Nahhhh... you're safe.  You're too ugly!!

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by SEAJ at 20-1-2010 22:10
Nahhhh... you're safe.  You're too ugly!!

SEAJ

Now according to the Forum Etiquette that warrants some demerit points !  

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Reply #22 SEAJ's post

Well, this was a unique instance and I really couldn't deny it since I had told my friend. It would have made it even worse in this case to deny. Otherwise, I see your point.

It was really a freak series of events, all of which had some sort of mind-altering substance driving the inspiration for the confession in both parties!

Actually I did try to salvage the marriage as we were together for about another 7-8 months after all of that. As I said in my story, I didn't want to hurt her again as I knew I would be "out-and-about" again, given my weakness for hot girls. After moving to Asia, Asian fever set in and I knew it was done deal and I just had to move forward as a single man!   

HOWEVER, It all worked out in the end for both my ex and me. She is very successful, having achieved one of her life-long dreams after we split. And, I feel I've been very successful in what I do and am greatly enjoying life to the fullest with no regrets or guilt. Though we don't talk often, my ex and I are not enemies, and I feel if either of us needed to help each other in some way, we would. So, victory all around, I guess.
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Reply #28 tbyrd_21's post

I am glad that it all worked out - I happen to believe in "Thy will be done" and that things happens for a reason.

Experience like divorces are always hard - but they are also a "learning about yourself" experience too, fortunately.
But in my case, I note that it unfortunately also made me a bit too "hard"

Oh well!

Good on ya anyway - and good luck!!

SEAJ
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I try to keep all my extra curricular activities for when I am out of town.  No point in messing around in your own backyard.  And I keep it a point to only go with 1 or 2 bros that I trust or keep it all to myself.  Just dont want to run into any trouble later on.  Out of town the chances of running into family/friends are pretty slim, but in town....  who knows.  I just like to keep it simple.
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Reply #30 cn888's post

And aren't we lucky little campers living in Hong Kong just a train/bus ride away to another country!!

Hallelujah for Guangdong province.  

May it stay the same for a loooong time to come (Hope Hope - with all these recent crackdowns etc)

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Getting caught.  FUCK..Hell No. .

I dread the thought of getting caught..I don't think my wife would be too understanding...

But i love punting too much to give it up...

I punt safe...Only some of my mates know of my hobby...( Mates who have just as much to lose as me if word got out..)

I never do incalls...Outcalls only...And always independent ladies...No agencies..  

I am lucky because my wife lives on the other side of the world...She always ask me if i see other women because she knows i have a high sex drive...

I reply.." Every time i am feeling horny...I just look at your picture and WANK.."
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Thanks to the senior members for posting their terrible experiences about getting caught, it really opened my eyes about the risk. After reading up on this thread I realized that so far no one (friends, GF, Family) know about my hobbying.. and I think i'll keep it this way.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by paka at 20-1-2010 08:45
Cali....sincere thanks for sharing your experience...

But seriously...WTF is up with alimony? that is the most bullshit thing I ever heard of....Is it something I can get negated in a prenup?

In most prenup, there is a bad boy clause or moral clause.  Tiger Woods, most likely had one in his contract or prenup.


This is a link to Steve Moskowitz, Tax Attorney speaks on Tiger Woods prenup.  Tiger Woods now has to pay dearly for his allege affairs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juzxoHe1Kzc

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Less people that know, the better....

I think the only person that knows I visit WG's is my dad.... but only because he's the one that got me started in mongering....

Even though I know of other friends that monger, I don't join them.... I don't let them know that I monger as well....
I tend to go solo...

Remember, it's only a secret if no one else knows....  


Still... I always wonder if my best friend would like to monger.... would be fun, I'm sure....
but I try to leave NOTHING to chance....
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Reply #34 Weelock's and #18 Paka's post

But note that for bro's getting married in HK, the simple answer is that there is NO such thing as a prenuptial agreement in HK. (or at most the effectiveness of one is very weak)

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Reply #35 reggie's post

I find this weird because I am the exact opposite.  All my buddies monger and we tend to always go in packs.  I do monger solo sometimes, but that is because of the convenience and the timing only, otherwise, I would rather monger with my friends.  Who will I talk to in the sauna?  Every time I monger I call at least 4 of my friends up and usually end up getting 1 or 2 to go with me.  I think we egg one another on.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by codehardcore at 19-1-2010 02:58
just get in quickly and get out quickly. never look back or think too much about it. or wear a disguise everytime u visit wg

I carry a pair of sun glasses and a fake beard when I am roaming around looking for a WG ...works all the time...
cheers!
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Reply #32 Rico's post

I reply.." Every time i am feeling horny...I just look at your picture and WANK.."

very funny...is he ok with u jerking off?

I think women know that guys are sluts and they would almost fuck anything...

cheers.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by angst at 22-1-2010 01:29
But note that for bro's getting married in HK, the simple answer is that there is NO such thing as a prenuptial agreement in HK. (or at most the effectiveness of one is very weak)

WOW, nice to know.  So, after being married in HK for 6 to 8 years with 2-3 kids, then a divorce, I don't have to pay her anything, is great.   

I wonder is it the same in China.....
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