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Advice on Viagra

I was actually part of an organized Orgy in HK, 2 guys and 3 girls. It was a great experience and really had to get over the fact that there was a guy next to me fucking but it was quite surreal. The only thing that happened was that there was this one girl I was most attracted to and in the end all I wanted to do was fuck her. The problem, I had already cum once with one of the girls and needed to take a break to recharge. The party only lasted a couple of hours so there wasn't much time for me so when I did fuck the hot girl, i was not fresh and hard so the experience was a bit ...sad. The odd thing was, well not that odd, the other guy was rock hard the whole time, even after the 2 hours. Okay, must be viagra as he was walking around naked drinking bear and still very hard.

I"ve never taken viagra as I am a bit freaked out about its affects and I've taken C before, it kinda felt weird, like in a fucked up way. My body felt all amped up and like in a buzz and it did wear off. I only took like 25% of one pill and I can only imagine if I had taken the whole thing. Now I've been thinking of finding a girl or group that does this as this was a one off thing, and really want to keep fucking and need my LB hard so I can last a long time. Almost like going to Macau and spending time there and doing a few girls over 4-5 hours.

So my questions is to those who have taken C or V. Which one is stronger and what is the difference between the both. From my research and limited experience with C (1/4 of a pill), it just seems V is much stronger than C and with C, your LB actually gets to relax but is very easy to get up for multiple sessions.

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I've never tried V but have tried C, idk I felt LB came back up easier but still it was hard to maintain for long after 2 sessions. Thats me personally though (back in Aus). It was pretty much an instant erection even with the smallest thought of anything arousing so I guess that was good but for be maintaining it was a whole other story. Afterwards, even LB rubbing onto my inner leg got it up, wayyyy too sensitive.

Not sure where to even get V or C in HK, kinda tempted to try again.

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I've written extensively on this topic. I actually laugh at myself knowing that I'm so well-versed in the topic considering that I'm still several decades away from possibly actually using viagra or cialis on a legitimate medical basis.

Viagra and cialis affect each person slightly differently, so there's no one answer that you're going to find. For me, I find that cialis gives me less of a headache, but it's constant whereas with viagra the headache is stronger but goes away after maybe 4 or 5 hours. I cut viagra down to 12.5 mg from the original 100 mg. One downside from both however, and this is a known side effect, is that it can numb the sensation in your penis as well as make it more difficult for you to cum after the first time. There's no point thrusting for 20-30 minutes straight if you have no feeling and can't cum.

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Reply #3 Freelancer's post

Thanks for the feedback. I did do research on this forum for some insights but was hoping to get maybe a different perspective. Yes, everyone is different and yes, I most likely have to try and test myself. I don't need the V or C either and looking at is for recreational uses for more banging. I think if I can't cum, that is fine, but if I can feel and at least fuck for multiple sessions that would be great. The real answer for me...is finding a hot GF who will do me Bareback and loves to fuck. LOL. This is the only situation that does not require any assistance from V or C
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Reply #2 icystealer's post

did you take the whole C pill or cut it up like in half? thanks for chiming in.

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hunter   11-12-2012 17:52  Acceptance  +1   If u r 1st time taking, take a qtr or max 1/2. The effect is diff to each person and to age.
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I don't use V or C but a good mate of mine has used V on a regular basis in the past. He does have problems getting it up nowadays and he claims it was due to the V abuse in the past. It could be just natural aging but if you do use it, recommend doing it on a special occasion basis.
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Reply #2 icystealer's post

If you're looking for V or C, you can get it at Fanda Pharmacy which is on Peddar Street, between Des Vouex and Connaught.  4 100mg pills of V are HK400, and 4 20mg pills of C are HK 450.  I'm guessing you only need 20mg of C compared to 100mg of V... but as everyone has suggested above, take a little

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butterflea   16-12-2012 08:32  Acceptance  +1   Thanks ! Useful addrress !
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I used V for the first time 2 days ago, its a wonder drug to me, no side effects, easy to get hard soon after the first shot (something I could not do even when I was younger) Thursday night 2 shots and a third attempt without coming within 3 hours no trouble getting or maintaining a good woody and last night 2 shots (2am & 7am report to come) The only thing I would say is it does seem to make it harder to cum but I actually find this a good thing as I am getting more bang for my buck. I am a convert I am off to Fanda to stock up as I still have 4.5 weeks of punting ahead.


Just an update just got back from Fanda and they have the original V for $400 (4 x100mg) or $250 for a generic brand (same quantity & mg I suppose) as I am collecting my supplies the guy next to me orders some for himself and gives me a sly grin. They must do a roaring trade in the stuff as I am sure the guys behind the counter know what over 40 white guys are there for.

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does anyone know the differences between sidenafil citrate (generic stuff) vs viagra? i get those for around 11 HKD a pop in bulk and they work just like a V (never tried V though) and i do get that damn headache, slight blue vision (which many websites admit it's normal)
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Reply #9 asurada00's post

Where you get the generic for HKD 11 ?   

I have tried V and C for many years and it works different on different days.

I also tried a generic in Thailand.  Kamagra. It works also.

In some countires Kamagra is without sidenafi, so I prefere V if can get.
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Reply #10 butterflea's post

I went down to Fanda today to get some C for the first time (mild headache, but it worked). There were four or five people at the counter, two of them also older white guys. They both showed their phones to the clerk rather than saying anything out loud -- probably with V or C written on some kind of note-taking application, I guessed -- neat little trick that I didn't think of.
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Most of the genetic pharmacies will have Viagra and genetics so no need for a special trip around hk. Just have to ask a few.
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Reply #4 troyman2011's post

I think most local pharmacies in HK sell V and C just straight up over the counter. I personally have bought C in a couple of different places with no problem at all, all in busy commercial districts so as to try and lower to chance that I get placebos. Anyway, I usually just take the whole pill in 1 go and I find that it helps me somewhat in keeping me hard. Normally I can cum 2-3 times or so before it's hard to keep LB hard but I find that with C, it helps me keep hard for that stretch.

I know what you mean when you say that even if you can't cum, you just want to keep going. I have never tried V so my recommendation is a little one sided but I think C is a good fit.
I never found myself getting headaches while taking C, though I do feel a little flushed as a result. Perhaps because I just take the whole pill and never split it into halves or quarters?

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Freelancer   18-12-2012 03:03  Acceptance  +1   Could you list the pharmacies/chemists that you got V and C?
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1 place was Unicorn's Pharmacy, at 174 King's Road, North Point. There's another pharmacy there called Longsafe, where you can also probably buy it.

I can't recall the other venue I bought C at. I'll post later when I can remember.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by butterflea at 16-12-2012 08:37
Where you get the generic for HKD 11 ?   

I have tried V and C for many years and it works different on different days.

I also tried a generic in Thailand.  Kamagra. It works also.

In some countir ...

online website 100x bulk = 11 hkd each. however they sell your credit card/email info to spammers so i wouldnt recommend. pm me if you want the link

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butterflea   21-12-2012 00:13  Acceptance  +1   Thanks ! Not worth the risc of Visa problem.
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I've used them both for recreational reasons. In general, if you don't medically need it them cut down the dose a lot. Try your first time on a girl you've already had before so you can get a sense for exactly what the difference is. I much prefer C than V. The problem with V is that you need to wait an hour or less for it to be effective, and then it's only effective for a few hours. C on the other hand, is effective within 15-20 minutes and stays in your system for a minimum of 36 hours or more. For that reason they call it the weekend warrior pill. Take a dose Friday night and be effective through Sunday. It doesn't mean you can go over and over, indefinitely. The pills (either C or V) don't enable you to get an erection by themselves. You could say the effect of having an erection is arousal x physicality. The pills take care of the second one (you can google what they actually do if you're curious, it's not what you'd expect), but you still need to be aroused. Naturally, after you cum a couple of times, your brain chemistry is telling you to chill out. But it's still pretty awesome. Get a girl Friday night, have some drunken good times, then Saturday have sex throughout the whole day. If that's my plan then I'll divide the normal dose in half. If I were trying to have some kind of orgy, then I'd take something between half and the full dose. The side effects either pill, for me, are a stuffy nose. Reduced doses make the problem non-expressive.

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troyman2011   19-12-2012 09:13  Acceptance  +4   good advice
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Reply #16 HuangpuGuy's post

Okay so I have to thanks for all the bros who took the time to chime in as I know it has been a well talked about topic but I guess I just need to have the soundboard live for myself. So this is my conclusion from everyone's comments.

1) Cost, not much of a diference  between V & C
2) V kicks in faster (15-30 Min), C kicks slower (1 hour wait)
3) Both need physical arousal to stay/get hard
4) Side effects will differ depending on person
5) Test with a quarter to a half to see how it works, experiment and see what happens.
6) most of all, just enjoy the effects and deal with the side effects
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You've got V and C reversed for setup time. V requires an hour. C requires 15 minutes at the minimum. Of course both can vary person to person.

The other huge difference (the reason why I don't bother taking V anymore) is the half-life of the substances. C stays in your system for days. V is gone basically after one night. I originally talked this difference as an advantage in terms of how much fun you can have on a weekend with one dose of C, but there is another hidden advantage for those who are comparing based on price...

It's true both C and V cost roughly the same per pill, but if you have a very sexualized lifestyle (welcome to Asia) meaning you have sex every or every other day, then C is significantly cheaper. Why? If you're having sex daily, you'll be dosing V daily. With C, you'll be dosing every 2 or 3 days. Per pill it's the same, but your monthly cost would be divided by 2 or 3.

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troyman2011   20-12-2012 00:32  Acceptance  +2   Thanks for clearing that up, yes I noticed I did get it mixed up
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by HuangpuGuy at 12/19/12 09:32 AM
The other huge difference (the reason why I don't bother taking V anymore) is the half-life of the substances. C stays in your system for days. V is gone basically after one night. I originally talked this difference as an advantage in terms of how much fun you can have on a weekend with one dose of C, but there is another hidden advantage for those who are comparing based on price...

It's true both C and V cost roughly the same per pill, but if you have a very sexualized lifestyle (welcome to Asia) meaning you have sex every or every other day, then C is significantly cheaper. Why? If you're having sex daily, you'll be dosing V daily. With C, you'll be dosing every 2 or 3 days. Per pill it's the same, but your monthly cost would be divided by 2 or 3.

You want viagra, cialis and actually any drug to be out of your system sooner rather than later. Ask any pharmacist/chemist or doctor and they'll tell you the same. You want the drug to do its work and then exit your body.

Also, if you're using viagra or cialis daily then you're in serious trouble. Less so if you're an old man in your 50s, 60s or older, but if you're younger than that and rely on erectile dysfunction drugs to get an erection then you really should cut out the drugs because your body has become dependent on them.

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troyman2011   20-12-2012 00:33  Acceptance  +2   Good advice, don't wanna be dependent, as I stated, I want to use for orgies.
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Reply #1 troyman2011's post

Interesting to read. I use C, V, L, Kamagra, Kappra, etc. quite often.
Depends on the timing and situation.
Fortunately, without any side effects.
In general:
C + V pills need the same time to be effective, around 1 hour (take the pills together with a lot of water!)
V – Gel or V Tabs are more quick to kick in, around 20 minutes.
For longtime sessions I prefer C. For shorttime encounters V.
V makes more harder!  
With V the recovery time is much more shorter between the shots, and standing time is often longer.
After 2 shots, sometimes V makes me difficult to cum again.
For the girls it is sometimes a hard work then, but for an orgy perfect.
May try this for ur Orgy: 1 or 2 shots without booster pills, after then u kick in V – gel.
Try also together with a penisring. For me that works.
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