Yeah, I know that subject title sounds like a perfect straight line for an endless set of retorts from this crowd

But here's the issue: "Do you do anal?" or "Does she do anal?" or "Can I fuck you in every hole?" is too graphic of a question.  You can get away with it in Asia more frequently than you can in the U.S. and Europe, but putting the question bluntly like that will still risk getting hung up on.

It's not the same problem when you ask, "Are you GFE?" No girl takes offence at that question (although she may or may not do the service), and when you think about it you're asking her if she will suck your cock bare, let you cum in her mouth, have multiple splooges on her tits/face/whatever.  "Are you GFE?" just sounds so much more acceptable in polite company.

So, in an effort to improve the anal penetration ratio of all the brethren, what's a more acceptable way to ask a girl if she'll do the Trifecta?  

Back door. That's what is used when speaking in cantonese.

You can ask for - Ni Zuo Bu Zuo Hou Fu Yuan? which roughly translates to Do you do Back Flower Garden.  Say it sincerely and a nice smile.

Oh you want it in cantonese.


Ni hoi m hoi hau moon ?  Translates to: do you open the back door?

Yeah, maybe.   I think it's just plain easier in Asia.  Obviously cantonese isn't going to work elsewhere, nor will the direct approach.

What's always worked so well about the term "GFE" is that it is universal (almost) and that it is very oblique.  "Do you open the back door" is better than "do you take it up the ass?"   but it's still not up to the level of subtlety of "GFE."

Other lines I've already nixed:

"oke in the Pooter?"
"Is the Poop in Your Chute Kapoot?"
"Backdoor Bust-a-Nut?"

Straight to the point:   pink or brown?

Since the Chinese languages rely heavily on context, I wonder what would happen if you were a landscape gardener and you had the hots for a client, wanting to have anal sex with her... context could cause all sorts of issues LOL...

I usually wait awhile before popping the question.
First get the gal into talking about the different positions she has tried or what's her fav.
Then I casually ask her if she gets request for anal often and if yes/ no I ask her if shehas tried or thought about trying ever.

Depending on her tone and reactions, I pop the question straight up.  Of course I do explore prior by either rimming while DATY or probing with fingers to gather additional info from body language.

The thing is, girls either love it or they hate it.  If a girl is not naturally inclined to take it up the butt then it's very unlikely you will ever convince her to be a regular recipient of your throbbing love tool.  Certainly a girl who enjoys a finger in her ass is more likely to take your man sausage, so JM's testing methodology is valid, it's just that you'd like to know beforehand without having to invest sessions and money.

Plus, in the U.S., a graphic question on the phone will get you labeled as "LE" and you will get hung up on.  Ask a girl if she's "GFE" and no problem.  Ask her if she does "BBBJ" and she might hang up on you.  Ask her if she does "anal" and she will definitely assume you are Law Enforcement looking to entrap her.

But as. To your theory bro, a gal who offers it still may decline during the session!
There is no way to gtd anal as even the walk ups who list to do anal for a fee can and will still reject at times.

I understand that you would like to know if the service is even offered before hand, sojust ask in a passive way the. Something like. "if the mood and time was right, would you be willing to try anal?"  

Same question different approach.  Much more accepting than a straight up " will you do anal?"

My 2 pennies

When you are doing her try to rub her asshole. If she has no prob with it then finger her ass. Hahaha. No need words for that. Action speaks louder than words.

PSE or Porn Star Experience is the dirty sister to GFE.  It would include anal, and pretty much anything else you could dream up.

If she's down with PSE then you're good to go.

The mind (or at least mine) works in mysterious ways.

I don't know why, but when I saw the title of this thread and the question posted by the OP, I thought of the word "Hoeegaarden".

Sure it is a name of the Belgian beer but it can be seen as form of chinglish (後 Garden or Hoegaarden) for 後花園 (ho fa yuan : back garden : anal).  

In the future, if I hear this term in the bars / ktvs to refer to anal, then I would know that person is from this forum.

Do you mind if I burgle your turds..............   Not sure the chinese translation....




Che'lu

I usually have a anal porn running on my pc when the girl shows up to my room ( I usually get HGs to my room). Most HGs would watch the porno, and giggle, then you just use the sign language to communicate.. works every time for me...no confusion what so ever...

The term GFE refers to her attitude when with you.  Is it a warm, playful, unrushed time with kissing and other affections you get from a Girlfriend?  Or is it a mechanical, fuck fast, cum where you like, and get out experience?  You can get a gal who provides TONS of GFE but still wont provide CIM or whatnot.  I'll take the GFE anyday.  (though I do love it when they choose to slurp it all down, mind you).

Anyway, your describing PSE, not GFE.

Just my opinion.

Totally agree JM,

Your technique "probing with fingers to gather additional info " always works.  If the girl speaks English [my only language] I ask, 'do you like this ?'  If the finger is OK, then a bigger tool is probably welcome.  Language or not, at least there is no doubt.

Or like one of the bros on this site wrote, "One in the pink, one in the stink ?"   Nice and poetic in the post engagement write up.

Wander!

How can a master horndog like you come up with such lapdog drivel?!

No, no, I know where you're coming from, we have this conversation on Redbook all the time.  The girls would LOVE for all of us to default to GFE meaning 'attitude' not 'performance' but for the sake of the mongering purists a lot of the guys like to define it in terms of services so that there is no doubt.     She either sucks you bare or she doesn't.

LOL! To me, GFE means not WGE, and that pretty much renders it completely relative... There are variables, like what your expectations are of a GF and a WG. For example, some people are used to receiving CIM mainly from GFs, whereas others only ever get that from WGs.

Come up with a new term then - one that might apply.  

My current SO and former ones where not so keen with me cumming on their faces or screwing me with another gal simultaneously.  So -- I don't go see a hooker cause she FUCKS like my girlfriend, but cause she ACTS like one while fucking me like a pornstar!!.  

If what you mean is that GFE equals BBBJ specifically and exclusively than I say "what's the point??".   Just man-up and ask for BBBJ!

Oh -  ummmm.., "mongering purist"???  Shite!!  There"s some drivel.  Haha