Saw this in Men's Health magazine-June.  For most of this we use a condom

[ Last edited by  nHK at 10-6-2008 12:25 ]

Ok, from now on, I will only go for gals who offer solely DFK.

I thought Anal is the highest risk, apparently straight vaginal scores all............anal not such a bad thing anyway.


Marsupial, your area of expertise for debate again.........

fuck, looking at this chart turns me off. i was just about to go punt as well!!! damnit.

nhk:

...thx for info... ...gulp...now...with all that dfk, daty, bbbj that i've done, it makes me start to wonder what the likelihood is to actually catching something...

...NOW MARS, WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR YOUR RESPONSE...

i get checked up every year, that ad says to test every 3-6 months? like isnt that a lil extreme???

the chart suggest the worst possible scenario so let's be optimistic otherwise we'll be F***ing anal from now on.

3 to 6 mths are for punters like u who fcuk WGs everyday......

Anal is more dangerous....the rough surface can break the Dom easily if u fcuk like jackhammer......worse is the shit residual stickin on your dick...........u will not want to touch ur own dick for the next 3 days.....

your right hunt, i do fuck wg's everyday. im a sick fuck, but i love it.
are u sure u get shit residual on your shaft? doesnt make any sense you cunt clean it off with some soap and water...???

Of cos u can clean it nice......but the fobia of it....as if the shit is still there.......



Use to have GFs who allow anal....even them will not BBBJ me after fckin their own hole....... I said "it's ur shit, not mine"!!1

haha. 'back-door entrance'
well im sure u wouldnt want to taste ur own shit either.

hmmmmm
the gal i always go to deep kisses me. How to refuse her deep kiss?
Well at least i will try to keep tongue action out of it.

Better reserve these risky things to safer gals.
Better safe than sorry.

Yah. Lets see what Mars has to say.
I can imagine he will say "Fk this chart!"

And this is news?

What this chart states is that DFK/Daty etc. can lead to various STDs. Isn't that why they're called STDs? The key word here is can - that only means that yes it is possible to get Herpes, Syphilis, and Gonorrhea from kissing, etc.

A chart designed in a similar manner would state that eating in restaurants can lead to Cholera, Typhoid, Hepatitis A, Diphtheria, Salmonella, Mad Cow Disease, Tapeworm, Botulism, E. Coli, Shigellosis, Cryptosporidium, Brucellosis, Listeriosis, or Norovirus. And these are just off the top of my head. A web search would turn up hundreds more diseases and dozens of really nasty parasites - many of them incurable, disfiguring and fatal.

Stepping outdoors can lead to death by Robbery, Lightening, Tornado, Falling Bricks, Meteorite, Suicide Bomber, Melanoma, Drive By Shooting, or Out of Control Car.

Where the chart is mistaken is in it's assessment of the actual risk factors assigned to the various sexual activities. Are we really to believe that there is a 'medium risk' of getting syphilis or gonorrhea from kissing?! If that were the case, these two diseases would be everywhere. I can't find any stats for syph from DFK, but most sites say that while possible it is very rare. The chart is way wrong in stating that there is a high risk of catching HIV from cunnilingus - that risk is so low as to be non-existent. In fact, there has never been a documented case of HIV transmission via DATY - just how high risk is that? Clearly this chart was designed to use fear to counter complaisance and ignorance about STDs.

My standard reply to posts like these is to emphasize that any behavior has the possibility of causing some harm, but we continue to eat in restaurants and step outdoors because the odds of being struck down are sufficiently low as to make the inconvenience of not doing those things not worth the sacrifice. If I acted according to the above chart, I would have missed out on 30+ years of DATY and DFK when in fact I've caught nothing. And bear in mind that all of the above three STDs are easily cured or naturally suppressed.

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 11-6-2008 14:26 ]

But would you go eat at a dodgy dirty restaurant?

WGs sexually comes into contact with hundreds mongering men who in turn has come into sexual contact with may WGs. So there is a high chance the WG has come across a STD carrier directly in the form of the male customer who in turn could have caught it from a WG.

7 Degrees of Separation Theory.

Haha, i wonder if what i am saying makes any sense.

What im trying to say is engaging in DFK/Daty with a high risk person significantly increases your chances of contracting a STD.

We have this argument every two weeks in the forum.

How high can those risks be if after 30 yrs of DATY and DFK I haven't caught so much as a cold form a WG? I must be one lucky dude! I think I'll start buying lottery tickets. Do you know of anyone who has caught a STD from either of these two practices? - I don't. What about the rest of you guys? - anyone caught anything from DATY or DFK?

There is so much hysteria about STDs because they involve sex, and for some reason a disease acquired via sex is considered particularly shameful/horrible. Yet everything except HIV can be easily cured with an oral dose of an antibiotic, while Herpes usually goes away by itself if you even get it. 80% of Americans already have HSV 1 because they got it in the form of cold sores when children. To avoid HIV, wear a condom.

And how do you know what restaurant kitchens look like? Have you ever had food poisoning? I've had it once. Caught it in hyper-clean Japan of all places. A friend of mine became infected with intestinal parasites eating sushi in HK - put him in the hospital for weeks and fucked up his digestion for years. But I still eat sushi - so does he, just not in HK.

I get tremendous pleasure from both DFK and DATY. Other guys don't care for it, and these are the guys who usually tell us how dangerous it is. If I had let this STD hysteria thing obsess me, I would have missed out on 30 years of oral satisfaction. Seeing how easily curable these things are, I plan to continue. If I ever do catch something, that could mean that it might only be a problem every three decades  or so, so after it's taken care of, I'll go right back to my old ways. The only thing that would give me pause would be a 2nd infection shortly after the first. In which case, my idea of the real-world odds of catching something would have to be modified. Until then, it's business as usual.

Even if I did get a case of oral syph tomorrow, those 30 yrs of great kissing and muff munching would have made it all worth while.

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 15-8-2008 00:33 ]

if that chart is correct (and I do agree to some degree with brother Mars) then all you sauna bros better not go cause there is also risk of getting some form of STDs from saunas thru HJs or unclean towels!!!!

BTW, have anyone here admitted of catching STD or HIV? perhaps not makes you wonder what happen to other bro's who used to be so active in the forum but now suddenly gone? we'll never know for sure!

If yes, i dun think the bros will raise his hand.
Then will create some panic and havoc. We all would search his report and which gals she have fcuk....and then cross check if we  had visited that gal as well. Then cross check again if other bros did the said gals and then on and on.........chain effect......until nobody is gonna fcuk nobody no more.......and soon the 141 will be out of business.........ahahhaaaa
My big 2cents!!!!!!!


DFK & DATY???? - If u truly believe it is fine, go and enjoy.
If u think way too risky....then stop and stay at home..

Kind of sick with this issue every now and then. The debate goes on and on.

If a bro said it is freaking unsafe, but still bros carry on. Another bro said vice versa, yet bros do not trust......merry go round!!!

  Yeah, my eyes kinda glaze over when I see this subject yet again. We all have our views and nothing we
read on this forum is ever gonna change them. For me, it's securely covered for fucking and BB eveything else. And no
anal under any circumstances.

Really! I've got to stop responding to these threads. I beginning to bore myself.

Something I learned years ago - nothing written in a forum ever changes anyone's mind about anything.

Maybe we should have a standard answer when this subject is being asked again ...

something like this (please feel free to improve on this) :

Best way to prevent catching any form of STD ... ABSTAIN !!!