Two quick questions:
1) I'm having trouble finding the girls that I visited in the database.  Do many of the 141 girls not use the Internet to advertise or am I just a failure at searching?

2) Has anyone ever kept in touch with a WG after a visit?  Two girls were impressed by my BFE (jk ) and told me they wanted to keep in touch with me.  One asked for my e-mail address and the other gave me her personal phone number and e-mail address.  Sadly, neither have contacted me after a couple weeks.  Now, normally I'd assume that it was just part of the GFE and they were just playing along.  But, if that's what happened, they went thought pretty great lengths to trick me.  One had to rummage though the room to find the key to get an address book she kept in a locked drawer because she was "afraid she'd lose my info if I just wrote it on a sheet of paper" (she was also pretty persistant about trying to get me to stay even though I told her I had no money left).  The other girl spent about 10 minutes on the phone with her sister trying to get an e-mail address for me to contact her (the address is legit, but I haven't had a reply).  
    Anyway, if they were just being nice, I don't see why they didn't just let me write something on a scrap of paper and just chuck it as soon as I left.  I can read people fairly well and these two also seemed pretty sincere in wanting to keep in contact.  Has anyone else had a similar experience?  I know it must seem like wishful thinking on my part, but I was really hoping to get a chance to talk to them again.

I guess that second questions wasn't so quick...

141 adverts costs $ which is kind of shady in regards to the law, I am uncertain how much , different WGs told me varying amounts and tbh if one WG advertises they can just stick photos on their doors and get the same effect, in JSL only Yan and SQ advertised on 141, yet you walked through the corridor you'd see the others,

But then as said I went to JSL and knobbled nearly every WG in the building.... and most of them are not advertised on 141 , thinking about it , there are 6-7 flats of 6 subflats, thats at least 36 WGs JSL 141 ads only has about 10 on it.

#2

Embarrassingly yes I have, me being me carrying multiple phones around used my UK cell phone to make an appointment with them , after I lost one of them and the other had a battery failure

2 WGs and an Ex WG, call me sometimes just to ask what I'm doing hows life etc.

I always suspect she'll try a my mum is ill can you wire me $100,000? , but it hasn't happened in 6 months and if they asked I'd definately not send any money anyway as I need it for myself life in the UK is costly and my (motor)bike needs some loving too... it needs a new engine....

Nor has the I want to marry you for a UK VISA type thing , they talk about completely mundane things, probably for some mental stimulation or how do you say this in English type questions google intellectual whore,

You may ask why do I do this especially since the natives for a couple of beers will get in the sack with you, its a small diversion at work now and again , ,more interesting than my actual work which is terribly mundane and boring, thus I tolerate it...its also a free mandarin lesson now and again since UK phones cost nothing to receive unlike the US and HK.

[ Last edited by  Kennichi at 27-7-2008 21:03 ]

They gave you their email address ?  they normally give out their tel number without any problems but elail address ?

Wow, looks like you leave an impression wherever you go!  Too bad about not hooking up with them afterwards though.

(1) Kennichi has given good info. The guy who runs 141 was before the courts a year or so ago on some crap charge he was some form of pimp. His lawyers successfully challenged this as he just supplies the conduit for WGs to advertise, and WGs working alone is legal. The only thing the court made him do is tone down the pictures for him to avoid pornography charges ....... that's why u see the shading over nipples and groins if too much were to be exposed.

141 and 161 cost money and a new girl, or one who has just moved address may advertise to get established and then pull from the site. Many have to keep going back to mainland and come back in for visa reasons.

There must be a massive number WGs who don't advertise, the locals have advantage as they have time to scope out the gems whereas us occassional visitors need to hit the ground running (thank you 141). I would strongly recommend "Hotel" girls, these are often young and fresh but only in HK for limited time due to visa constraints (like 2 weeks). Research 141, there is lot of info on this.

(2) If u like the girl(s) so much u should have got their number.      I'm surprised if they went to such trouble they didn't call u although it sounds like you are not based in HK. If u are in HK some will call you to get extra "overnight" money, or they may be bored and want u to spend some money on them in nightclub, etc., or both.

I have stayed in touch with some WGs and it's mostly a good experience   , although I have had the "sick Grandmother" story,  pluease..    If you can visit Macau, much better for many things, especially opportunity for WGs back to your room ... if you are so good at your "BFE" u may even get freebie!    Recommend u don't ask questions on Macau unless u don't find answer in Macau 141 section, it is an extensive and valuable library of research.

Hey good to hear you're still there bro.  WGs who want to get to know you outside of their flat worry me but I suppose if you're 6000 miles away its safer.  I always feel that you have to draw the line with them and that what happens in their room stays in their room but if you ever see them on the street maybe give them a nod or a smile (something a bit more subtle than a wave and a hi).  Had a chat with SQ and she understood this but I suspect Kennichi may have her email address and keeping it all to himself

1.)  the ones that advertise month after month on 141 have been around for along time.  some move around and pop up with a different name.  some famous ones don't change names.  there are gems that don't advertise, cuz either they are short term, subsitutes, don't want to attract any attention, or simply don't think it's necessary cuz they are having enough business.  The 141's that I usually hook up with whether a first time or repeat, almost never advertise.

2.)  This can be quite common if you're a socialable guy and you don't mind having outside contact with WG's.  Some bros can't be bothered with this.  I've had lots of contact with WG's.  I have dinner/drinks, recreational activities with them during their free time.  It's quite enjoyable sometimes to talk with them.  Mind you, I have never had a free meal yet, (it's not my motive for keeping in touch with them).  Once, a WG came to my place just to talk, we had chocolate, wine, fruits etc...we fucked in my living room...i wasn't even expecting it...but hey...little bros not complaining.  Afterwards we chatted a bit more in the nude.  I drove her home, she didn't ask for money...but I still gave it to her, and she accepted.  

WG's might not even have a chance to go on a computer...cuz they are fucking all day long.  You may have to wait.   Phone number is better.  Good luck on making contact again.

To all bros ............your replies are all excellent!!!!!!!!!!

I go by this rule too.
What goes on in the room stays in the room. I try very hard to separate WG activities with non WG activities.
Like a double life. And because of this rule i dont ask them about themselves and expect they dont ask me too much. Which occasionally results in no GFE at all. Should try to know them better.

A WG i use to frequent goes to bars and karaoke (normal type) with a few customers that have since become her friends. There will be like a few WGs and an equal amount brothers.


Has anyone brought a WG back to your apartment and then the WG one day shows up unexpected at your apartment?
It has been tempting to bring a WG back to my apartment for some overnight action to save on overnight hotel cost.

It might be tempting bro but you might end up looking for another apartment.    

I've done a lot of really dumb things in my life but bringing a WG to the place where I actually
live is not one of them.  

there is a Chinese 4 character saying, which I am paraphrasing, which says something like

"don't shit  in the same place you eat"

I do not know about the Chinese WGs, but I have heard stories about the flippers and indos, once having been taken home,  coming back unannounced to hang out by your front door  or building lobby waiting for you to return. It could get a little dicey when you are returning home with the wife.

If you are a single man and want to try and turn a WG into a part time GF, I suppose this would be OK. I have had some social activities with WGs and they have been pleasant,  but once married you really need to keep this activity "ring fenced" from the rest of your life.

Very true..........

Classic!!!!!!

So they do really come back to haunt u.

Thanks for all the responses.  The informaiton about the 141 website has been very helpful.

As for staying in touch with WG's, I should have mentioned that I live in the States and probably won't be back in HK for many, many years.  Hence, the e-mail rather than phone numbers.  The way I see it, I had a good time chatting with these girls and I'll almost certainly never see them again, so it doesn't hurt to try to keep in contact.  Obviously, I didn't give them my personal information, but I wouldn't mind chatting about life or even helping them out if they made it accross the Pacific.

Anyway, I know one of the girls was after my citizenship.  She mentioned wanting to go to the States and hinted that I should take her back with me.  I kept dodging and told her that if she gave me her contact info, I'd hook her up with one of my well-off US friends (who is hopeless with women, so win-win in my opinion).  To this, she just came straight out and blind sided me with "Why not you and I get together?"  I forgot how I got myself out of that one... but to her, I must have looked like prime meat.  She was probably late 20's and dying to get out of the business/country.  I am early/mid 20's, ABC with vacation money to spend, and decent looking enough that I'm pretty sure I could have picked her up if I had met her at a club.  While her persistance put me on guard, she was cute and I had a great time talking to her (when she wasn't propositioning me).  Service was amazing too   She gave me an e-mail address and a phone number that she said she'd keep even after she stopped working.

Now, the other girl was something completely different.  She either had GFE down to an art or she geniunely liked me.  I think somewhere between my age, struggling chinese, and inexperience with 141's, she decided that I was just hilarious.  She was cheesing the entire time and was more interested in joking around me than rushing me out even though the hallways outside were full of people.   She was great fun to talk to and I wish I could have had a chance to take her out to dinner just for the company.  While she did say that she worked all the time, she also promised that she'd contact me... I just hope she hasn't forgotten.

One thing that struck me about all the WG's I met was that they all seemed very sincere.  While I know that their job is a means to an end, they always seem so cheery and chatty.  I suppose it's part of the job to always seem like they're having a good time, but I felt like I had more fun chatting with them than getting down to business.

Your experiences are par for the course if you are a reasonably decent person and kind to them.

I am Gwailo but can speak rudimentary Putonghwa, and if you can warm up to the girls, and maybe become a repeat customer they will show you a big heart every time. As I have said before in this forum, the biggest hearted girls are always from Sichuan. Always cheerful, happy to see you, and genuinely glad to spend time with you (unless ALL of them are good actors and can fool me, but I have had enough unhappy WGs to know what this is like also).

I have been charmed by girls suggesting that we (based on my reference to my Chinese dictionary) “make a partnership”, or that they have heard my country is very beautiful and they would like to visit me there. I have even had one lady who told me that she would study English so we can communicate better, and once got a simple “wo-men, zhe me ya?” (basically, “you and me how about it?”). To me, and this is just me, nothing like having a girl shout “lao gong” as she orgasms, both for the ego and the emotional satisfaction. This may not be for everyone, however.

If you are young and single, have some money to spend and want an adventure, then perhaps they would make good companions, wives, etc. They are quite aggressive and those fresh off the boat would need a lot of acclimating to the West, however.

Good luck

Further on this riff, I have two different local friends whose father/older brother/family member has always told them "avoid mainland girls", as they are very mercenary, are somewhat high maintenance,  and apparently take a lot of Hongkies for all they are worth.

However, as with any woman of any nationality and whether WG or not, when you are making generalizations, YMMV

Bro, your post is full of so many contradictions, you're obviously gonna believe what you wanna believe.  

Same with gwailoplayer #16 and #17.

Both you guys know the reality but you just can't bring yourselves to fully accept it. You prefer the illusion.  

Jake

What is so unrealistic about my reporting my observations and my comment that I find the WG comments about their wanting me to "take them away from all this" charming? To you, or perhaps it was Hunter, I said the same thing in another earlier post:

- - - I know they are there having sex with me for money and not because they like me. That is the only reason they are there. - - -

However, I am sure that if a WG thought they could meet a man would get them out of this business, look after them, send money to their family and do everything else to make their life better (i.e. set them up as a wife with a Canadian or US passport and move them to the US and maybe bring their parents / siblings over) they would jump at the chance to do this. This is not an illusion, this is a common dream for girls from poor countries and many of them try to get this kind of gig. Look at all the Phil and Indo Amahs in Wanchai and how they chase after any white guy.

In my view the illusion is thinking that taking on one of these girls would actually be workable, and that marrying a WG who speaks no english, basically spent her life in a small PRC village, and bringing her to Canada or the US would be easy or successful.

I agree with your comments - except for the use of the word "charming".
I find their attitude of "take me away from all this" mercenary and not in the least charming.