I've read a few posts and a few guys mentioned that some of the better looking hotel girls on 141 are so overworked that by the end of their week in HK, most are usually unresponsive, tired and provide nearly 0 service.. well, some are like that anyways coz they think they can get away with just their looks... but anyways... I'm curious if the guys here would be willing to pay more for these better looking girls if they were a lot more expensive.. say US or UK prices, but knowing that they only see a handful of clients a day, are always fresh and well rested, and provide a great service.. rather than being dirt cheap and overworked to death..

Reason why I ask this is that when I go to the US or UK, I tend to favor the higher priced girls since I know they service fewer clients... Call me a snob, but in HK, while it is great that the WGs are so cheap, sometimes I just wish that they are a bit more expensive, service fewer clients and aren't completely knackered by the time I see them... Sometimes I think the girls now seeing 20 clients a day get so tired and traumatized, that they come to HK once or twice and never return.. If they have a more pleasant experience, see fewer clients a day, get some time off to enjoy themselves around the city, they might come back more often, giving us more choices in the long term...

Anyone else have similar thoughts?

ok, flame suit on.. haha...

I completley agree.

Different clients want different serviices & have differnt expecatations too. A well rested, fresh, WG would be more able & willing to provide, me-thinks.

However, its the agents who run the show & of course they are only interested in $, so i'm not sure how, if ever, we can get better quality.   -Unless its already here?  What about esscort agency girls?

I think there should be another tier of girls (escort? but not like rip-off agencies now) that can cater to clients willing to pay more for good girls that are not being worked like the sweatshops.  A premium but US prices (300-400USD) are a bit too much if you ask me.

How about a 3 hour booking where you can take the girl out for dinner, drinks, build up a good rapport, get on her good side, before banging her.  What would you pay for this?

How bout it agents?

I agree that there's not enough price differential between the Chinese gals. They all seem to charge pretty much
the same - 600, 700 or $800. If a gal is fully booked, her price should go up. This is just simple economics.

I'd gladly pay a lot extra for gals like Yee Ki, Mika or Pan Pan. not of whom I've been able to book because they're
always busy.

I was always taught never to skimp on money for shoes and bed. I'd add car and WGs to that list.    

I guess that works from an economic standpoint for the girls and agents, but I cant say I support the idea (selfishly). I guess it also depends on how much you budget/spend on a weekly basis and what you hope for. I tend not to be looking for relationships or GFEs, instead I'm just after good sex. Yes if the girl is not performing as you hoped, thats a fair complaint, but at the same time, I feel that we're still getting a huge bargain in HK at the current prices, and the girls arent doing badly either (once they return home). Sure they could charge more, and we could pay more, but I'd rather my choices weren't even further limited by fluctuating prices.

Zeroz is not concerned with price as fair compensation for services rendered; rather, he advocates raising fees to limit access to the girls by pricing them out of reach of the less affluent punters. Unfortunately, that would price the best of them right out of my reach as well. I manage to get by without the US$ 500 wines I'd love to drink, but having to make do with 3rd-tier Mongkok walkups would be too dispiriting. And if the price of the very best were to rise, so would the price of the not so desirable - it's called bracket creep. Fortunately, this kind of rationing only works in a market where supply of the desired commodity is limited, and that's not the case here on the edge of that great reservoir of lovely women that is China.

And keep in mind that these girls are making US-equivalent fees when the money is converted back into RMB and spent in China. The 400 HK$ (360 RMB) these girls take away from a 45 min encounter is a very good week's salary on the Mainland, so HK$ 400 to them is equivalent to many hundreds of dollars to an American - it's called PPP (purchasing power parity) and explains why the little lovelies flock to HK. Paying US$ 300/hr in a country where the cost of living is one fifth that in the West would be a huge distortion in the other direction.

So guys, let the market dictate price, and have a little pity on a bro who didn't spend his life chasing the buck.

If you really want to pay US prices, take the girl for 3 consecutive 45 min periods, and let her sleep for the first hour.

And Jake, aren't you the guy who is always tut-tutting about these greedy Asian village girls who make too much money for doing nothing?

the original poster must be insane and is giving bad ideas to agents.  ppl come here cause xxx is cheap and service is decent.  if u want to give more to get better service, show her the money u're going to give her (an extra $2000) and i bet she will not be so stupid to do her normal routine on u.  why raise the bar when u can easily have the option to pay more yourself.  paying less is not an option in most cases.

There is a reason why I'm doing the this poll :
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... &extra=page%3D1
So please go there and vote ... more votes by everyone will give us a better understanding on what you want !

There are two very different areas where service can be improved - by the individual WG and/or by the individual agent ...

For the WG ... you are actually in contact with the girl - face to face, and therefore you have some control on how she renders she services - be it your wit, your looks,
your verbal communication skills, your attitude ... and your money ... etc.

For the agent ... you have very little control unless you have established a relationship with him or her, and even then, the agent disappears ...
this is the one area where I see the most complaints on (myself included) ...

The question is simple - would you like to see an improvement in services by paying more ?

Mars, I don't think you need to worry that prices of the Hotel girls will go up just because some bros are willing
to pay more ... at least not for the hotel girls in this site. Like you said, it will always be based on demand and supply.
The agents may not know much English, the may be rude but you can bet your bottom dollar they know how to
make money !

There are already other agents out there who supplies wealthy clients with the pick of the crop ...
I sometimes observe them wearing designer clothes escorting their girl(s) to the top hotels.

Then there are agents who supplies starlets for the more wealthy ...

There's always going to be demand at what ever price  

[ Last edited by  twiceAweek at 18-4-2008 23:25 ]

Yes, of course there must be agents who supply top-quality girls - local models and aspiring starlets - to the wealthy. The rich don't want to share their pleasures with the common folk. I think all zeroz really needs is to be put in touch with pimps who pander to a slightly wealthier clientele. I'm quite happy with what this site provides thank you. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

These agents for the SEX141 girls are HK business people. If they thought they could double the price and make more money, they'd do just that. The fact that they haven't, tells me they think price rises would harm business. I would think that the majority, by far, of their clients are average HK locals who would balk at the higher rates.

My advice is just to try to get in early. See my two posts on Yee Ki from this past week. I agree with Jake that I would
pay more for the really hot girls, but I would need to know that I would get some kind of servcie in exchange and I guess
that's someting that nobody can guarantee.

Is this the first $1,000 Chinese gal? I mean excluding locals.

http://www.sex141.com/en/viewid.php?uid=15492&weekly=1

No, if I remember correctly there were 1 or 2 before her ... about a month ago

Zeroz, the prob is if the demand is high, increasing the price will not make much difference, just remember that there are similar punters like you who do not mind to pay extra bucks.

However, I very much agree with Voyager that it very depend on the Agent and how they overwork the gals.

e.g. say the current JGs posted in 141 are genuine and as drop dead hot as advertised, I truly believe they will have customers line up even the price is way more expensive.

Overnite, longer booking hours or repeat might be another wise choice for better service. Always build rapport and treat them like GF..........

I think these girls already exist. They are just not in this database. They are probably also not much discounted from other international escorts, I think, since these are probably girls that have more choice and control over what they do.

Yes, have had a look on some escort sites and they charge alot on there.  Like $3000/hour or something rediculous like that.  141 must offer a limited window into the HK WG scene with the more expensive higher class WGs being made alot less public, something more that you hear from the other rich people in their circles.  With prices of WGs ranging from about $300 to $1400 usually on 141, 141 is more suited for the general public as a whole

Usually offer 2 cents worth, but with inflation....
I have heard about superpapas in town who can get you the best girls and even have some that we never get to see on sex141. I have also been told by some local bros that the reason for some of the bait-and-switch tactics are that you may have booked someone, say Yee Ki, at $800 and while you're on the way to the hotel a rich client of the papa's calls and wants her and will pay $3000 for her to go to his hideaway. Guess who wins out?
On top of this, when some of the popular girls suddenly disappear from the site this doesn't always mean they have left town, just that the demand is so heavy that there's no point for the papa to keep the girl on the site. Sometimes some rich dude will take her for a week and just have her in a hotel room at his beck and call.
Man, I gotta work on getting rich!

Dammit, rich people should just stick to their own rich peoples mongering circles and keep away from 141 for us little people lol

Siklong's comments ring true. The filtering up of talent happens in every country. Agree with Hunter's comments too. bbbjp as well re "these girls already exist".

My view is HK operates on supply/demand economics, like the rest of the world. I don't believe the agents are discounting for any poor and underprivileged 141 Bros. They are charging whatever they can get and care little about how hard the WGs may work. I also doubt you are going to get some nice, well mannered, educated person to work as an agent in the 141 market either ... speaking good English and treating all the mongerers with kind respect.

The key to HK is the enormous amount of WG talent on tap from the PRC, willing to make the journey over if it can be arranged. I saw a doco on China a month back looking at the disparity in jobs/wealth. From the girl in the factory earning US$00.40 cents per hour, to the internet tycoon driving a Prosche.

In Sydney I can get one full hour with an Asian WG, maybe BBBJ, and come twice for as low as AUD$160 (HK$1,025). Mandingo found a place over his way for AUD$100 (HK$650) but the WG quality varied greatly .. one stunner, and several would make you run. These are at the low end of the market and legality is grey (unlicensed?), but provide a good comparison to 141 prices in HK. Considering the much higher costs of an Asian WG's T&L to work in AUS, the 141 costs look about right as they are.

Yeah, the prices are the way they are atm because that is the level that matches the WGs with the volume of clients that provides the best income for the Papas.

The idea of paying more for a WG who works less (say twice the price), must not work due to a lack of demand at the higher price (presumeably less than half volume).

Therefore the only way to get around this atm is booking girls for whole days/weeks.