Subject: Top Models, Super Models and Asian Models on 141
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Reply #20 Fifa's post

As I had said, this was over 10 years ago. These agents don't go for just any one with money. It's by introduction only and these agents are very discreet and will do their background check. What if the customer were a paparazzi masquerading as a senior company exec? My friend was heir to a fortune worth billions and was well known in the circle. Used to know many of these people and can tell you they're weirder than what you would ever imagine.
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im planning my first trip in sept what is the average to pay for a good looking girl who loves her work??? many thanks
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Post at 16-6-2010 19:31  Profile P.M. 
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5'4" i would hardly call them model let alone super model. And no face pics, no thanks. Learnt some expensive lessons already.
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Reply #21 Geoduck's Post

Could you let us in on some of the experiences or stories you know of the "circle". I understand if you cant share it due to privacy reasons.
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Originally posted by geoduck at 16-6-2010 09:26
I have in fact met this agent years ago for tea in Central. A slim man in a suit about 50. He has a big portfolio of models and actresses. Many of the girls he mentioned I've not heard of and he would ...

Your pimp sounds like Heidi Fleiss.  I am sure he could write a book, make lots of money and then hide for the rest of his life.  

I don't mind hearding about "Lifestyles Of The Rich And Famous", HK Version.    You might want to put a RA of 40 or higher.

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Reply #25 Wheelock Post

I can start a RA 40 thread on the Rich and Famous but have already given most of the details in Post #12. I still have a few good stories to tell though.

Heidi Feiss' girls will never command as much money as these HK starlets and models. It is just unreal the way HK men will splash money on women but these days they are few thanks to China opening up and the increased supply of very beautiful women (not the HGs listed in the 141DB here). I know that one tycoon in 1995 gave a cheque to one famous movie actress as a parting gift and asked her to fill in the amount herself. She had the audacity to put in HK$100m (US$12.84m) and the cheque was honored. I was in the business then and my friend in the bank verified this.
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Originally posted by geoduck at 17-6-2010 07:49
I can start a RA 40 thread on the Rich and Famous but have already given most of the details in Post #12. I still have a few good stories to tell though.

Heidi Feiss' girls will never command as muc ...

That is how Heidi Feiss got caught. The gov't, I guess IRS, saw how much money she had in the bank and she couldn't substantiate how she obtain the money legally. Prostitution is illegal in California. She should have started a business or something in Nevada or Canada where prostitution is legal.  If it happened in the USA,  the bank has a obligation to inform on both of them on personal check for something like US$12.84m.  The IRS computers would bring a red flag on her tax account.

Oh, BTW, I don't think Heidi Feiss is pretty.

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personally i don't think that worth. one of gal i meet at 1500$ is just very fair like 800$, attitude may be little bit better but i don't think i should pay that high.
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I tried the top model 1 time back in January. It was HKD2000. a Guy will answer when you call the number. Girl couldn't speak English fluently although she said that she is a local. Overall, the service was great cos she was doing all the hard works.

Face:3.5/5
Name: Bobo
height: around 165 cm
boobs: maybe 34B
Age: around 22
Services: 4.5/5 ( BBBJ and CIM)
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Reply #29 bucchia's post

If I paid HKD 2000 to get WG with face 3.5/5 and 34B boobs, I guessed I will regret it. For $2000 at least I 'll expect to get WG with face 4.5/5 & C cup boobs

I think they should have better standard before asking HKD2000 price tag.
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Reply #30 javku's post

As I had mentioned earlier, for 2k and no picture on record, one could always walk away if the girls does not live up to expectations. For 2k one should have the right to refuse the girl and the agent should understand.
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I am 100% sure these are the same girls who work at 600-800 HKD. Call one number and get her for 800 HKD, call another number and get her for 2000 HKD. That's as old as prostitution itself.
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I am 100% sure these are the same girls who work at 600-800 HKD. Call one number and get her for 800 HKD, call another number and get her for 2000 HKD. That's as old as prostitution itself.

yeah, that's really make sense to me . Maybe that's why they didn't put their pics o the first place. If some agents dare to do bait & switch using girl with pics on 141 DB, then just imagine what will they do to the girl without pics
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Reply #18 Weelock's post

There were a few stories a while back highlighting this problem in South Korea with the sucide of one an actress who left a note saying the manager forced him on her (cant remember the name now) and its something I imagine that happens the world over.
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Reply #33 javku's post

Exactly! Thats why I wander what the psychology is behind putting up an add, without a photo and double/triple the average price? After one or two punts, most punters will be familiar enough with the industry to realise that the girl and service you get next is probably a result of the good karma in your previous life ... unpredictable. Thats why I think these adds probably get the least hits?
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There was a while when I was looking for local Hong Kong girls instead of mainlanders/JG/KG. The local girls are rare and hard to find good ones. They fear that their friends or family will suddenly show up (as a customer) or that someone will talk or pictures of them will get distributed.

I've actually found A LOT of Hong Kong girls will take money for sex, but they just don't want to be involved with an agent. You can find them on dating websites (like Adult Friend Finder), etc. I've landed a lot of local gals (university students, pretty hot and young) that needed money for tuition and living expenses while going to school. It's nice that way too because they don't hold you to time limits, they are not 'pros' you get a real GFE. It's kinda nice sometimes too, because it feels like charity work (LOL) a girl gets to go to school and you get to bang a young hot thing and self-gratification.

Before I discovered that, I tried the 'models' on 141, they were almost always disappointing. They were local and spoke Cantonese and usually English. None of them were ever real models or known super-models. They may have been working for a modeling agency legitimately, but I also worked at one of these agencies before.. and they literally have hundreds of girls just waiting in the wings and never make any money, it's just a gimmick.

It seemed to be these girls were really using that ploy as a way to land a rich boy friend. Every time I went there they kept asking personal questions about me, asking if I was hungry and wanted to go out for dinner, or go to a club to go dancing.. it felt like an interrogation instead of a punt. These girls are sharks, just want to get into your wallet. They also might do other risky behavior on you (unprotected sex) if they think you are rich.. they'll get you to think with your dick instead of your brain.. they are probably fishing and trying to get several guys like that setup and then make a living out of that.

I never found any of them stunningly attractive either.

geoduck's statements are very true, I've seen that side of it too. Being friends with some of the local Hong Kong celebrities and having worked in entertainment for a while. It's really nasty and the things that happen behind closed doors are mind-boggling.

To be a top model/actress in HK.. you really do have to sleep your way to the top. I've seen it first hand - it's more like getting raped on your way to the top. There is one specific incident that always comes to mind when I think about this.

As someone suggested in another post about trying to land Japanese AV idols. If you really want to land a super-model.. and you got the cash to burn on it, you are better off starting up a company. Contacting their agency, booking them for a 'lingerie' shoot. Pay them their normal fee for that and this lands  you the introduction. Legitimately hire a photographer and have a real shoot with them.. once you get your foot in the door, if the model thinks you are someone important and have cash, you can take them out after the shoot (better take them someone nice and discrete and under the ruse of thanks for the work) and eventually negotiate face-to-face to get what you want. You'll have to be legitimately charming and use the carrot-on-a-stick approach.

The question is, why would you? You'd easily lay down 100K + for that one conquest.. when you could have over 100 hot mainlanders that are probably more attractive and give better service than one of those super models.

Not to mention, what if one of the HK gossip mags happens to snap photos of you and they get published. I hope you are not married or hold a high profile job - could ruin your life.

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Originally posted by somebum at 23-6-2010 03:24
There were a few stories a while back highlighting this problem in South Korea with the sucide of one an actress who left a note saying the manager forced him on her (cant remember the name now) and i ...

I believe this is the actress who's name was in the article.  At first nobody wanted to believe her. There was video of the sex acts on www.youku.com. It had over 3 million hit but they deleted it. I'm sure the videos are out somewhere in the web.

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When the aspiring actress Zhang Yu decided she wanted to blow the whistle on some of China's top TV and film-makers - those who have demanded sex in return for roles in their soap operas and movies - she chose the internet to make her case.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-12/01/content_748377.htm

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Zhang Yu is a Chinese actress who grew frustrated with the Chinese movie industry because the practice of exchanging roles for sex had become so rampant. Zhang Yu decided to start video taping these incidents and released 20 sex tapes on the Internet proving that high-profile directors, assistant directors and executives were demanding sex from actresses".

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AB Hometown: Suzhou. Jiangsu Province. China Zhang Xin Yu(张馨予) who just lately released her video tapes of her and a friend having sex with some famous Chinese directors and producers, which she submitted as proof of her assertions that sex-for-roles is the standard hiring procdure in the industry. Seems like she’s tired of all the unfair criticism and opinions and thus do what she did

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http://www.zimbio.com/Zhang+Yu/a ... ng+Xin+Yu+Super+HOT

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Reply #37 Weelock's post

I have an entire collection of her photos but never knew about the scandal. Thanks for the research, Wheelock.

Would you know of a link where the videos can be viewed?
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by geoduck at 17-6-2010 07:49
She had the audacity to put in HK$100m (US$12.84m) and the  ...

The other version I heard was that the tycoon honoured the cheque but felt she had overpaid herself x times and got x guys to gangrape her.

Truth or urban fiction?
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Reply #39 JckJr's post

JckJr, I was referring to someone else. The tycoon referred to will not resort to such antics. That one that got gangraped was going out with a tycoon who was also a gangster. She was not paid nearly as much money and never slept with her patron and even mocked him yet she gladly accepted his cash and gifts. The 100m I was referring to happened a long ago in the late 80s and if invested properly would be worth $800m today. That is still a fraction of what was made by geomancy master Tony Chan who had 4 suitcases containing HK$680m cash for one fung shui reading. He eventually made a couple of billion from his subsequent fung shui readings with Nina.

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