When I read the below report by DoggyDaddy and learned he got a 'free' shag (he did tip her $500) from a wg at Wanchai Escape, I was impressed he went ahead with the 'free' offer.

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A few weeks back on a Wednesday, I was drinking a lot at a bar with friends at Wanchai. At about 3am I began my long slog back to my flat. On the way I ran into some freelancers on the street by Neptunes 2. One of them stops me to chat and tells me that I have a face of a successful businessman and wants to know me better. I engaged in a little chat, she then pointed out two prc wgs and offers one of them for $1000. I refuse, claiming I was too tired and drunk. Then as she tells me more of herself, (she is Hui Chinese, a muslim minority), she offers again her friends, this time $800 for a shag.

Again I refuse, then she finally offers herself. For Free! I thought quickly and concluded I was just too wasted to entertain a shag. She tells me she wants a bf. I tell her to go to LKF to which she replies that the men there are bad, they just want ONS then disappear. She wants a relationship. Then I told her she wasn't my type to which she was a bit offended until I told her I meant she was too petite for me. Because she persisted, I had to ask her why would she shag me for Free. She replied if she took money it would mean that we were engaged in a business transaction but if she wanted a real relationship, she cannot take any money.


So to experienced Wanchai mongers, should I have trusted her like Doggydaddy did and taken her up on her Free offer? Or was their 'something' still expected once the session was over which I highly suspected?

My honest/frank opinion?

1. Chances are very high that she KNOWS there's gonna be some money changing hands afterwards.  Sized you up for a gentleman (or sucker???) and played her cards as she probably wasn't having much luck that night.

2. IF it was a 100% bona-fide offer - I'd say you were a cad if you had accepted - for getting freebies from a WORKING gal is just not on in my very own book.  They're out there selling their bodies for money and for ANYONE to take advantage of the vulnerabilites that a lot of these gals have - just to get a free shag - is akin to stealing - just coz you can.  But its still stealing.

3. If none of the above applies - then you're REALLY opening yourself up to problems - as what follows is high emotion/drama in an actual "relationship" with a WG.  And we all know what that leads to!

Likie I said, that's only my very own - and perhaps harsh - opinion.

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 1-8-2011 11:21 ]

FUCK Her & Ditch Her...

I agree with SEAJ here. There's no such thing as a free lunch. If you had taken her home, there would be free sex involved, but then the next morning comes around, if she asks for your phone number, what would you do? Not give it to her? Once she has your number, that's when the calling and texting will start, only to make your life more complicated. For HKD800 a pop, I'd rather buy the sex so my life is not as complicated.

Thanks for your vote of confidence - but perhaps I'm just being too old fashioned and NOT cognizant enough of the fact that I AM posting on a mongering board!!

Hunter's succinct reply IS what's to be expected and endorsed by most here I think!  

LOL!!!

SEAJ

SEAJ,

Thanks for your straight-forward answers.

I don't know if it is an advantage or not, but I am always clear-headed even when drunk, which has allowed me to think through all the advantages and disadvantages of free pussy from civis/wgs being offered. I must have let so many civi (and some sauna girls/freelancers) opportunities for shag to slip my grasp because I had assessed the girls of being a bit too possessive/psycho/nuts or emotionally/monetarily costly in the very-near-future. Yet the next day I would hear stories of another dude who took the same girls home for a wild shag. (of course I never get to hear of the day-after collateral damages if there are any).

So on that Wednesday listening to the offer from that Hui Chinese girl, I was clear-headed as usual and ran through all the variables and came to the same conclusions as you had listed. I did wonder if I was sober, how much should I tip her should I have taken her to a hotel. $500, $800 or $1000? I didnt have enough cash on me and I hate going to ATM with wgs present as they think of ATM as unlimited source of money. And was it for an overnight or not if it was supposed to be 'Free'? I just didn't know.

PS: I would never take a girl home to my flat as the building staff know my SO. It would be too awkward.

I am not saying what doggydaddy says is untrue but I for one do not believe for a second that a girl in a bar such as escape would sleep with someone for free.

They have to pay their 'bosses' for every ride they get, I was leaving VV once time when I saw a WG from escape arguing with a guy who I found out (off the WG I was leaving with) she did not pay him or was late paying him. She was trying to explain why.

Why would they do it for free? - She sounds awesome and well worth paying for.

I once got a 'free ride' off a DH - we were in Makati and she was far from attractive lol I was half cut and she says to me 'I wanna suck your dick' - I tried to get out of it as she was NMCOT by telling her I did not pay for it.

She says she would not charge me, just pay for the hotel & her taxi home.

She must of got my number at some point off my phone, I did not give it to her and she hounded me for weeks!!

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I agree with what SEAJ says bro!

She possibly had her own incentives and if you agreed and then take her to a hotel, she is going to asking "Why not your place?"

Hey Doghead,

imho you did exactly the right thing!
Not that long ago, i took a WG from Escape to my place, after some talk we agreed to extend the ST to a Overnight without additional charges. such things can happen, if you are lucky. In my case i guess it was just because it was late allready and propably my apartment is more convinient as hers.

In the morning she told me she dont want to have any money from me, just pay the taxi. Well sure.... somehow i liked the idea pretty much, a free shag... not bad at all.
I told her she has to earn money, thats why she is finally here and i send her home with 1500 HKD "taxi money" just because i dont like the idea of "abusing" her. Still i saved another 1,5k because thats what she asked for a Overnight at the beginning.

Few days later, i got a text from her, she would like to go out with me, have a dinner and some drinks.
Sure why not? but then..... i got the "bill". I mean hey, if i go out with a girl, sure i dont mind to pay the dinner/ Drinks. but she also asked for the comon rates she is working for because she needs someone to "support" her.

So, maybe there is a chance of 1: 1000000000 you would really get a free ride from a WG. but i would not take that risk at all. If im looking for a free ride, wanchai on wednesday is not bad (ladies night) or any crowded night in LKF ;)

Just my two cents.

i know it's   but how did she look?
i'm always interested in Hui Chinese.

Darker skin, big eyes, very exotic to me.


ok back to the topic.


Freebies with no string attached is possible, and can be very fun.
But first, you must look like Brad Pitt, give people the impression that you are Warren Buffett..
and most importantly, you must have a heart of steel.

without a heart of steel, forget abt freebies.
in the long-run, you will get chewed up, sucked dry and spatted out.

If I didn't have a SO, I would go for it, but keep her at arms length.  Don't let her know where you work, live, your phone number.

As I have an SO anything without money scares the shit outta me.  E.g. a secretary I had made it quite clear she was up for it - a bit older, but sexy in a dragon lady way - despite having met my SO.  That would have been crazy stupid.

I think she must have been looking for something, just like SEAJ said, she must have known theres going to be some money exchange or maybe she knows how to squeeze it off you. If its legit, why does she need to offer her friends for a fee in the first place. Its a bit awkward I must say.
I think if I were you, I would have done the same thing. Just to get get away with potential problems, as I dont like a situation where I didnt plan for it (feels like I dont have total control).

I've had some freebies from WC (first time there I hooked up with a chick who was 'celebrating' the anniversary of her ex-husband's death), but not usually with girls who are full time WG's. I'm single and pretty reckless, but in this case I wouldn't touch it. You've known her for what, 5minutes? And she suddenly wants to be your girlfriend? Fishy. I'd be worried about getting set up or robbed or something.

i think that the reality could be a combination of a LOT of things.

- She was proposing the two other girls first. She probably doesn't want to look like she can't sell period. The other girls would lose 'faith' in her.
- She might figure your place is nicer than hers... much more comfortable sleeping arrangements.
- If she leaves with you, someone who seems to have a half a brain and not just thinking with their cock at the moment, she can get off her heels for the night.
- She was horny
- She said she's looking for a "relationship". might see you as a potential sugar daddy.
- She figures you would've paid her at the end of your session anyway.

Regardless of the reason....it was your perogative to say no. And being vigilant is always better than just "seeing where things go ". =)~

~UD

Unfortunately bros, I now seem to be in the same boat as doghead. I've been propositioned last night by my regular masseuse at a clean joint to have free sex with me outside of working hours. This, of course, after she's given me handjobs, and I've already gotten her naked, DATY-ed, DFK-ed, anal play, everything but penetration. She's given me her number and asked me to call her. I didn't do so yet because I didn't have my punting phone on me. Am I in deep shit too? She's cute as hell, but she's my regular at my massage joint.

In this case you know her well right while doghead's case was kind of sudden. Chances for it to blow is if your regular are looking to something more serious, depends on how you look at it. I would go for a freebie but not for a relationship

Yeah, I've been going to her for massages for 4-5 times now, always chit chatting, "how's your boyfriend? - good" "how's your girl friend? gone." We talked about shaving and trimming the nether regions our first encounter, and by the second encounter she told me she had shaved off her pussy hair and arm pit hair after our first talk! Naturally since she brought it up, I wanted to see! And see I did. It was lovely. And finally last night I was able to taste her clean shaven pussy! But alas, all things must come to an end.

Getting FWB relationship with a masseuse works best if 1) you already have a SO and she knows it, 2) she is a single mother (divorced).

There are many divorced milfs in the sauna/massage industry. Many of them are very horny from lack of sexual opportunities, but like all females will not just sleep with anyone. After your many sessions of essentially foreplay, she knows that you are a great and considerate lover and wants to go further (fs).

But do be warned, FWB relationships eventually do come to an end because one party will become smitten with the other after sharing so many sessions of intimacy.


editing : grammatical error

Another 1 liner:

Dont fuck something if you know you gonna get fucked later.


One more:

If you are not a cold bastard who can easily dump a gal like underwear, dont go fuck around (Civi or WG included).

Thanks Hunter, that is the best advise I have heard so far. You have to be a cold bastard to play this type of game. This is not a game for the weak hearted, especially for those for have SO.

I agree!

I was a cold bastard at the weekend, I am normally Mr Nice Guy but this girl from Wan Chai is constantly hounding me all of the time. I became a cold bastard and told her to leave me alone, putting it not so nicely.

The crazy chick is still texting me!